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On February 18 2016 03:01 opisska wrote:
I don't understand how this is a problem in 2016. What goes through the head of someone who puts into the rules of WCS that the player can't be sponsored by a porn company etc... I would understand this in Saudi Arabia, but I was under the (seemingly naive) impression that the "western world" is different.
I believe Blizzard, as well as their parent company Activision, are from the United States. That would probably explain it. ;p
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On February 18 2016 03:25 207aicila wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2016 03:01 opisska wrote:
I don't understand how this is a problem in 2016. What goes through the head of someone who puts into the rules of WCS that the player can't be sponsored by a porn company etc... I would understand this in Saudi Arabia, but I was under the (seemingly naive) impression that the "western world" is different. I believe Blizzard, as well as their parent company Activision, are from the United States. That would probably explain it. ;p
But US isn't living in Middle Ages either, I am pretty sure of that, because in Middle Ages, there was no US 
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On February 17 2016 04:53 Deathstar wrote:
I have seen Dragon's recent bikini show because of this. I skipped around and saw 5 seconds in total but the damage has been done.
That said, these two seem like a good match so I hope Dragon starts practicing seriously and makes good runs into tournaments :D
I read that as blinking show, thought he danced his stalkers around and the damage has been done, and lost in an important game O_o
Now I want to see this bikini show, maybe some people like a little bit of entertainment outside the game:D
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So a legitimate company with money to burn sponsors e-sports yet people are using the product that company generates revenue from to say they shouldn't be a part of the scene.
I think Razer makes terrible peripherals, every single razer product I have owned has broken far too early in its life. I'd still be happy if they sponsored some SC2 players.
Just because you dislike the idea of consenting adults on camera without clothes on doesn't mean you should shun a sponsorship from such a company.
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Does Blizzard/WCS also prevent participants from being sponsored by alcohol/tobacco companies? If so, then I think it's fair to discriminate against pornography as well - they don't want to advertise things that minors can't legally participate in and they don't want to encourage minors to engage in those activities.
If that's not the case though, I'm disappointed that they would exclude pornography specifically as I can't think of a non-subjective reason to do so.
Anyways, I'm happy Dragon got sponsored. He's always entertaining and an important part of the community, and this makes it sound like he won't stop playing for a while yet!
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On February 18 2016 03:01 opisska wrote:
I don't understand how this is a problem in 2016. What goes through the head of someone who puts into the rules of WCS that the player can't be sponsored by a porn company etc... I would understand this in Saudi Arabia, but I was under the (seemingly naive) impression that the "western world" is different.
Because public relations.
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On February 18 2016 04:53 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2016 03:01 opisska wrote:
I don't understand how this is a problem in 2016. What goes through the head of someone who puts into the rules of WCS that the player can't be sponsored by a porn company etc... I would understand this in Saudi Arabia, but I was under the (seemingly naive) impression that the "western world" is different. Because public relations.
Public relations with whom? Monks? Isn't this perpetual cycle of "problems" just in people's heads? Does this feared "public" even exist? If it does, do they even use internet?
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Public relations with prudish Americans. The types that write letters to tv regulators. Yeah I know, it doesn't seem to make much sense to me either.
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On February 18 2016 04:58 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2016 04:53 OtherWorld wrote:On February 18 2016 03:01 opisska wrote:
I don't understand how this is a problem in 2016. What goes through the head of someone who puts into the rules of WCS that the player can't be sponsored by a porn company etc... I would understand this in Saudi Arabia, but I was under the (seemingly naive) impression that the "western world" is different. Because public relations. Public relations with whom? Monks? Isn't this perpetual cycle of "problems" just in people's heads? Does this feared "public" even exist? If it does, do they even use internet?
I think that would be the standing of EU, but in NA, things run different. Its just as it is. I welcome very Porn Company as a sponsor in esport.
And I dont want Esport to become on pair with real sport, I want Esport to develop its own way, the last I want in Esport are FIFA-IOC Boards and World Championchips with limited Spots to each nation become THE thing. Esport is growing well and it is growing very well on Twitch. I dont know alot of people in my age (24) who look TV anyway and even if, they watch TV via Streaming. Let Esports become adult and major building on current structurs and not adopt "real sports" structurs and thinkings, like TV is the big thing to achieve.
Why not Porn sponsoring? (Without porn companies self censor them with a SfW department). Porn in the Internet is a buisnes as big as Youtube or Streaming, if not bigger. Its the 21st century, forcing esport into roles of 20th century sports and TV wount fit. On top of that TV is declining here in Germany for now over 5 years in a row, with less and less viewers. Still alot, but the youth (with more then basic education) is almost completly cut off TV.
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On February 18 2016 03:32 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2016 03:25 207aicila wrote:On February 18 2016 03:01 opisska wrote:
I don't understand how this is a problem in 2016. What goes through the head of someone who puts into the rules of WCS that the player can't be sponsored by a porn company etc... I would understand this in Saudi Arabia, but I was under the (seemingly naive) impression that the "western world" is different. I believe Blizzard, as well as their parent company Activision, are from the United States. That would probably explain it. ;p But US isn't living in Middle Ages either, I am pretty sure of that, because in Middle Ages, there was no US
The itch to be snide is hard to resist.
I'm more surprised there are people out there who are still not aware how prudishly things tend to be run in the US.
Remember kids: violence, gore and slaughter is okay in entertainment (especially when it's against russians / terrorists / north korea / china / insert other generic villain that the soulless industry keeps recycling) but showing skin isn't. 
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On February 18 2016 04:58 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2016 04:53 OtherWorld wrote:On February 18 2016 03:01 opisska wrote:
I don't understand how this is a problem in 2016. What goes through the head of someone who puts into the rules of WCS that the player can't be sponsored by a porn company etc... I would understand this in Saudi Arabia, but I was under the (seemingly naive) impression that the "western world" is different. Because public relations. Public relations with whom? Monks? Isn't this perpetual cycle of "problems" just in people's heads? Does this feared "public" even exist? If it does, do they even use internet?
Public relations with the kind of people who get all drama'd up when you can see more than 2/5 of a female star's boobs, and who make a wild nipple appearing on camera for 1 second a thing as important as lack of water in Africa.
Besides, journalists are very good a making random stuff ("Porn company sponsors a random SC2 streamer") sound like shocking stuff ("Blizzard's top game StarCraft II funded by porn site !").
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On February 18 2016 04:58 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2016 04:53 OtherWorld wrote:On February 18 2016 03:01 opisska wrote:
I don't understand how this is a problem in 2016. What goes through the head of someone who puts into the rules of WCS that the player can't be sponsored by a porn company etc... I would understand this in Saudi Arabia, but I was under the (seemingly naive) impression that the "western world" is different. Because public relations. Public relations with whom? Monks? Isn't this perpetual cycle of "problems" just in people's heads? Does this feared "public" even exist? If it does, do they even use internet?
A lot of new gamers are kids and need their parents' money to buy games. Do you think parents would like it if little Jimmy's favorite player is sponsored by Pornhub? I mean it seems normal to us because we're basement dwellers, but the world isnt as progressive as people think. Porn is still a taboo in a lot of places. Everyone watches it, but they don't really talk about it or advertise it in public.
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On February 18 2016 08:20 phodacbiet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2016 04:58 opisska wrote:On February 18 2016 04:53 OtherWorld wrote:On February 18 2016 03:01 opisska wrote:
I don't understand how this is a problem in 2016. What goes through the head of someone who puts into the rules of WCS that the player can't be sponsored by a porn company etc... I would understand this in Saudi Arabia, but I was under the (seemingly naive) impression that the "western world" is different. Because public relations. Public relations with whom? Monks? Isn't this perpetual cycle of "problems" just in people's heads? Does this feared "public" even exist? If it does, do they even use internet? A lot of new gamers are kids and need their parents' money to buy games. Do you think parents would like it if little Jimmy's favorite player is sponsored by Pornhub? I mean it seems normal to us because we're basement dwellers, but the world isnt as progressive as people think. Porn is still a taboo in a lot of places. Everyone watches it, but they don't really talk about it or advertise it in public.
Time to change that.
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On February 18 2016 08:20 phodacbiet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2016 04:58 opisska wrote:On February 18 2016 04:53 OtherWorld wrote:On February 18 2016 03:01 opisska wrote:
I don't understand how this is a problem in 2016. What goes through the head of someone who puts into the rules of WCS that the player can't be sponsored by a porn company etc... I would understand this in Saudi Arabia, but I was under the (seemingly naive) impression that the "western world" is different. Because public relations. Public relations with whom? Monks? Isn't this perpetual cycle of "problems" just in people's heads? Does this feared "public" even exist? If it does, do they even use internet? A lot of new gamers are kids and need their parents' money to buy games. Do you think parents would like it if little Jimmy's favorite player is sponsored by Pornhub? I mean it seems normal to us because we're basement dwellers, but the world isnt as progressive as people think. Porn is still a taboo in a lot of places. Everyone watches it, but they don't really talk about it or advertise it in public.
Not sure whether you're for or against but throwing terms like basement dweller around is pretty unnecessary and also pretty much wrong.
I don't understand the apprehension when it comes to changing the status quo. Like yeah I get it many people are prudes, in the US more than in some European countries, but that's no reason for it to stay like that forever.
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I just wish the best for Dragon, the team and the sponsor!
And i hope WCS and TL can look past this small controversy and just feature and welcome the new team and allow them in WCS
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On February 18 2016 03:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
So a legitimate company with money to burn sponsors e-sports yet people are using the product that company generates revenue from to say they shouldn't be a part of the scene.
I think Razer makes terrible peripherals, every single razer product I have owned has broken far too early in its life. I'd still be happy if they sponsored some SC2 players.
Just because you dislike the idea of consenting adults on camera without clothes on doesn't mean you should shun a sponsorship from such a company.
Using ur logic I guess we should welcome matchfixing mafias as sponsors too then huh
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On February 18 2016 11:52 swissman777 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2016 03:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
So a legitimate company with money to burn sponsors e-sports yet people are using the product that company generates revenue from to say they shouldn't be a part of the scene.
I think Razer makes terrible peripherals, every single razer product I have owned has broken far too early in its life. I'd still be happy if they sponsored some SC2 players.
Just because you dislike the idea of consenting adults on camera without clothes on doesn't mean you should shun a sponsorship from such a company. Using ur logic I guess we should welcome matchfixing mafias as sponsors too then huh
Yeah those aren't really legal so no.
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On February 18 2016 11:52 swissman777 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2016 03:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
So a legitimate company with money to burn sponsors e-sports yet people are using the product that company generates revenue from to say they shouldn't be a part of the scene.
I think Razer makes terrible peripherals, every single razer product I have owned has broken far too early in its life. I'd still be happy if they sponsored some SC2 players.
Just because you dislike the idea of consenting adults on camera without clothes on doesn't mean you should shun a sponsorship from such a company. Using ur logic I guess we should welcome matchfixing mafias as sponsors too then huh
I used the word "legitimate" for a reason.
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Oh wow what a matching sponsor haha
Good job dragon
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