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On February 17 2016 09:43 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 08:44 Weavel wrote: Why isn't this on community news? Usually new teams show up there. We're discussing that now. But it's not looking too good.
Maybe give news in a more darker tone and away from "We would like to wish YP the best and hope that they get their investment's worth by getting people to watch more porn"
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On February 17 2016 09:43 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 08:44 Weavel wrote: Why isn't this on community news? Usually new teams show up there. We're discussing that now. But it's not looking too good.
Because pornography is unsavory or because a lot of SC2 gamers are minors? If the former, that sets a potentially dangerous precedent. If the latter, would TL display the same caution if Budweiser decided to sponsor a player?
Murky ground.
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On February 17 2016 10:24 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 09:43 Seeker wrote:On February 17 2016 08:44 Weavel wrote: Why isn't this on community news? Usually new teams show up there. We're discussing that now. But it's not looking too good. Because pornography is unsavory or because a lot of SC2 gamers are minors? If the former, that sets a potentially dangerous precedent. If the latter, would TL display the same caution if Budweiser decided to sponsor a player? Murky ground.
But not allowing it is perpetuating the thing we've spent most of this thread discussing, the ROI of a pornsite sponsoring an esports team. In my opinion if Dragon is allowed to be featured as a streamer then this thread should be featured. Featuring Dragon but not this thread would still advertise porn to the people on TL via dragon streaming. Now if he's no longer featured because his channel would advertise YP to potentially minors that's a whole different conversation. but as long as he's a featured streamer the end result is still the same.
EDIT: I realize I use "advertise porn" and "advertise YP" interchangeably, as they're basically the same for all intents and purposes
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On February 17 2016 10:24 pure.Wasted wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 09:43 Seeker wrote:On February 17 2016 08:44 Weavel wrote: Why isn't this on community news? Usually new teams show up there. We're discussing that now. But it's not looking too good. Because pornography is unsavory or because a lot of SC2 gamers are minors? If the former, that sets a potentially dangerous precedent. If the latter, would TL display the same caution if Budweiser decided to sponsor a player? Murky ground.
There might also be a problem with the type of ads that this discussion makes likely to pop up
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Lol only reason they're called Team YP is because Twitch doesn't allow pornography or any mention of it. Or so I heard.
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On February 17 2016 08:44 Weavel wrote: Why isn't this on community news? Usually new teams show up there.
The same reason that all cheaters aren't on sc2 news
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On February 17 2016 07:56 LemOn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 07:31 argonautdice wrote:On February 17 2016 07:13 LemOn wrote: Man I quit watching porn around a year ago But this is kind of a cool move by them :D So what do you watch now? nothing dirty, fapping to porn is just super bad for ya so I quit. But it'll be fun when the youporn dragon will stick it to other players like Scarlett etc  what @_@?
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On February 17 2016 04:51 TurboMaN wrote: Is this the YP I think it is? And Dragon "69 cents" is in :D yes. I've had to talk business with them before.
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Pornography is a sideshow. Always has been, always will be.
If E-Sports wants to be legitimate, pornography sponsors are exactly what it doesn't need. What a step in the wrong direction.
Back in 2011, I really thought I'd be watching SC2 games on TV by now, with teams sponsored by Budweiser and stuff. Instead, I'm still watching games on streams with viewership that has declined, and teams sponsored by pornographers.
How could SC2 have been managed so poorly?
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On February 17 2016 14:03 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 07:56 LemOn wrote:On February 17 2016 07:31 argonautdice wrote:On February 17 2016 07:13 LemOn wrote: Man I quit watching porn around a year ago But this is kind of a cool move by them :D So what do you watch now? nothing dirty, fapping to porn is just super bad for ya so I quit. But it'll be fun when the youporn dragon will stick it to other players like Scarlett etc  what @_@?
Hahaha you're not the only one who's curious.
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Probably one of my favourite players for sc2 on Twitch
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China6326 Posts
Before someone asks, this means he probably can't play in any WCS event due to porn being a banned sponsor from WCS.
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On February 17 2016 15:49 digmouse wrote: Before someone asks, this means he probably can't play in any WCS event due to porn being a banned sponsor from WCS.
Does that include GSL/SSL? Is he even in Korea, I had no idea until today he was even still trying to be a player as opposed to just a streamer
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China6326 Posts
On February 17 2016 15:55 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 15:49 digmouse wrote: Before someone asks, this means he probably can't play in any WCS event due to porn being a banned sponsor from WCS. Does that include GSL/SSL? Is he even in Korea, I had no idea until today he was even still trying to be a player as opposed to just a streamer
I believe the WCS rulebook covers Korean events as well, but yeah I doubt this will matter as Dragon isn't exactly playing very competitively anyway.
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Still sounds better than KT Fingerboom.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36920 Posts
On February 17 2016 16:18 Lazare1969 wrote: Still sounds better than KT Fingerboom. Debatable.
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Czech Republic12128 Posts
Nice logo. Really like it. Gratz, Dragon!
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On February 17 2016 14:06 BronzeKnee wrote: Pornography is a sideshow. Always has been, always will be.
If E-Sports wants to be legitimate, pornography sponsors are exactly what it doesn't need. What a step in the wrong direction.
Back in 2011, I really thought I'd be watching SC2 games on TV by now, with teams sponsored by Budweiser and stuff. Instead, I'm still watching games on streams with viewership that has declined, and teams sponsored by pornographers.
How could SC2 have been managed so poorly? lol, you're a perfect example of the type of people that cause sponsors to not want anything to do with the scene. whenever anyone decided they wanted to step in and help, they had to be judged by the TL community first and the only ones to talk would be people like you who wanted to complain, start witch hunts, and chase the sponsors/players off with your illogical thinking. How exactly is a beer company sponsoring a team any different than a porn company? If anything, porn would be more accepted right? I don't remember porn causing accidents, unruly behavior, and other problems that break up families. Also, the legal age for viewing porn in most states is 18 (lower in some others). The legal age for drinking is 21 and you're concerned about the minors who watch and see the letters "YP"? Sounds hypocritical to me. Maybe I'm not being logical here because my jimmies have been rustled a bit, but don't you think you're part of the problem with your way of thinking?
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Czech Republic12128 Posts
On February 17 2016 17:41 Steelo_Rivers wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 14:06 BronzeKnee wrote: Pornography is a sideshow. Always has been, always will be.
If E-Sports wants to be legitimate, pornography sponsors are exactly what it doesn't need. What a step in the wrong direction.
Back in 2011, I really thought I'd be watching SC2 games on TV by now, with teams sponsored by Budweiser and stuff. Instead, I'm still watching games on streams with viewership that has declined, and teams sponsored by pornographers.
How could SC2 have been managed so poorly? lol, you're a perfect example of the type of people that cause sponsors to not want anything to do with the scene. whenever anyone decided they wanted to step in and help, they had to be judged by the TL community first and the only ones to talk would be people like you who wanted to complain, start witch hunts, and chase the sponsors/players off with your illogical thinking. How exactly is a beer company sponsoring a team any different than a porn company? If anything, porn would be more accepted right? I don't remember porn causing accidents, unruly behavior, and other problems that break up families. Also, the legal age for viewing porn in most states is 18 (lower in some others). The legal age for drinking is 21 and you're concerned about the minors who watch and see the letters "YP"? Sounds hypocritical to me. Maybe I'm not being logical here because my jimmies have been rustled a bit, but don't you think you're part of the problem with your way of thinking? I've never understand what's so wrong with pornography. It's a legitimate business.
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On February 17 2016 15:49 digmouse wrote: Before someone asks, this means he probably can't play in any WCS event due to porn being a banned sponsor from WCS. But this team isn't sponsored by YouPorn : their logo doesn't appear anywhere and no advertisement of YP is made. It is funded by YP, which should be an important difference.
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