Dragon joins Team YP!

On February 17 2016 04:58 WrathSCII wrote:
What does YP stand for? Seriously I have no idea...

On February 17 2016 04:59 Musicus wrote:
I also think it's cool that they are in esports, but it's kinda sad that they have to hide. I mean nobody really knows about this YP team and their site. If they advertised "hey look at our new sc2 player" on their main website, that would be really huge!


Well good for Dragon, didn't even know he was still active.

On February 17 2016 05:22 CheddarToss wrote:
Is this the You P*** website? If so, it seems kinda odd that they would sponsor gamers.

Edit: Ohh, just read on Liquipedia Counterstirke that it is. Wow, I'm amazed. O_O

Edit 2: ...it's kinda fitting that Dragon aka the "Sexking" would join their roster.

On February 17 2016 05:22 CheddarToss wrote:
Is this the You P*** website? If so, it seems kinda odd that they would sponsor gamers.

Edit: Ohh, just read on Liquipedia Counterstirke that it is. Wow, I'm amazed. O_O

Edit 2: ...it's kinda fitting that Dragon aka the "Sexking" would join their roster.

On February 17 2016 05:47 Musicus wrote:


They are trying to be funny about it, so it's an interesting approach. I hope it works out for them and this investment will be worth it.

http://www.teamyp.com/censorship-in-esports/#post-top

On February 17 2016 06:14 OtherWorld wrote:

I don't doubt the funniness of such a sponsor, I just doubt the viability of their investment. Most likely scenario is probably that YouPorn's owner is passionate about eSports though, so who cares about the viability.

On February 17 2016 06:24 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
The team logo font is identical to YouPorn's logo, so there is some visibility. I don't know how viable is this investment, but many adult gamers probably already recognize YouPorn as the sponsor without being explicit about it. Only one person on this thread was not aware.

With all the adult sites out there, the competition must be stiff. Anything that puts more awareness on YouPorn, subtle or explicit, would be a good thing IMO.

Now mind you, I visit only 2 porno sites, YP and BYL, and on YP they stated they would sponsor esports teams, so this comes as no surprise. I guess to support YP I am going to subscribe for a month. Too bad we can't put in a code like G2A or Amazon that gives Dragon a small percentage of my subscription.

On February 17 2016 06:30 Grizvok wrote:


Was the usage of stiff on purpose?

On February 17 2016 07:13 LemOn wrote:
Man I quit watching porn around a year ago
But this is kind of a cool move by them :D

On February 17 2016 06:14 OtherWorld wrote:

I don't doubt the funniness of such a sponsor, I just doubt the viability of their investment. Most likely scenario is probably that YouPorn's owner is passionate about eSports though, so who cares about the viability.

On February 17 2016 07:31 argonautdice wrote:

So what do you watch now?

On February 17 2016 10:24 pure.Wasted wrote:


Because pornography is unsavory or because a lot of SC2 gamers are minors? If the former, that sets a potentially dangerous precedent. If the latter, would TL display the same caution if Budweiser decided to sponsor a player?

Murky ground.

On February 17 2016 04:51 TurboMaN wrote:
Is this the YP I think it is?
And Dragon "69 cents" is in :D

On February 17 2016 14:06 BronzeKnee wrote:
Pornography is a sideshow. Always has been, always will be.

If E-Sports wants to be legitimate, pornography sponsors are exactly what it doesn't need. What a step in the wrong direction.

Back in 2011, I really thought I'd be watching SC2 games on TV by now, with teams sponsored by Budweiser and stuff. Instead, I'm still watching games on streams with viewership that has declined, and teams sponsored by pornographers.

How could SC2 have been managed so poorly?

On February 17 2016 17:41 Steelo_Rivers wrote:

lol, you're a perfect example of the type of people that cause sponsors to not want anything to do with the scene. whenever anyone decided they wanted to step in and help, they had to be judged by the TL community first and the only ones to talk would be people like you who wanted to complain, start witch hunts, and chase the sponsors/players off with your illogical thinking. How exactly is a beer company sponsoring a team any different than a porn company? If anything, porn would be more accepted right? I don't remember porn causing accidents, unruly behavior, and other problems that break up families. Also, the legal age for viewing porn in most states is 18 (lower in some others). The legal age for drinking is 21 and you're concerned about the minors who watch and see the letters "YP"? Sounds hypocritical to me. Maybe I'm not being logical here because my jimmies have been rustled a bit, but don't you think you're part of the problem with your way of thinking?

On February 17 2016 15:49 digmouse wrote:
Before someone asks, this means he probably can't play in any WCS event due to porn being a banned sponsor from WCS.

On February 17 2016 18:33 deacon.frost wrote:

I've never understand what's so wrong with pornography. It's a legitimate business.

On February 17 2016 19:04 OtherWorld wrote:

What he probably means - and I agree with him on that - is that you'd never see a real sports team sponsored by YouPorn, while you see teams sponsored by alcohol or tobacco brands ; and the legitimacy of eSports in the eyes of the public will be built by adhering to traditional sports' standards - TV coverage instead of just streams, big sponsors like Samsung, SKTelekom or Acer, events happening in large live venue instead of small studios and being scheduled at least half a year in advance, etc - instead of staying in our own little Twitch culture that is not accessible for laymen.

You could even go further : eSports' legitimacy will be built by synchronising its core values with those of traditional sports ; that's why people like Zest are better ambassadors for eSports than unfit Samsung players. And here having a team sponsored by YouPorn is not really in accordance with sports' traditional values.

On February 17 2016 15:58 digmouse wrote:


I believe the WCS rulebook covers Korean events as well, but yeah I doubt this will matter as Dragon isn't exactly playing very competitively anyway.

On February 17 2016 14:06 BronzeKnee wrote:
Pornography is a sideshow. Always has been, always will be.

If E-Sports wants to be legitimate, pornography sponsors are exactly what it doesn't need. What a step in the wrong direction.

Back in 2011, I really thought I'd be watching SC2 games on TV by now, with teams sponsored by Budweiser and stuff. Instead, I'm still watching games on streams with viewership that has declined, and teams sponsored by pornographers.

How could SC2 have been managed so poorly?

On February 17 2016 09:49 swissman777 wrote:


Hey, I wan't aware and I know you porn.... but I get the point. Still, if it is recognized by only those who know about it, how would you expect to sell your brand.... you have to make some profit

On February 17 2016 23:34 Charoisaur wrote:

I didnt watch any porn before I turned 18

On February 17 2016 23:53 Ace Frehley wrote:
I don't see how can this be a bad deal for YP
I doubt they are paying a lot of money to dragon, and dragon has a decent number of viewers and streams a lot

On February 18 2016 03:01 opisska wrote:
I don't understand how this is a problem in 2016. What goes through the head of someone who puts into the rules of WCS that the player can't be sponsored by a porn company etc... I would understand this in Saudi Arabia, but I was under the (seemingly naive) impression that the "western world" is different.

On February 18 2016 03:25 207aicila wrote:


I believe Blizzard, as well as their parent company Activision, are from the United States. That would probably explain it. ;p

On February 17 2016 04:53 Deathstar wrote:
I have seen Dragon's recent bikini show because of this. I skipped around and saw 5 seconds in total but the damage has been done.

That said, these two seem like a good match so I hope Dragon starts practicing seriously and makes good runs into tournaments :D

On February 18 2016 03:01 opisska wrote:
I don't understand how this is a problem in 2016. What goes through the head of someone who puts into the rules of WCS that the player can't be sponsored by a porn company etc... I would understand this in Saudi Arabia, but I was under the (seemingly naive) impression that the "western world" is different.

On February 18 2016 04:53 OtherWorld wrote:

Because public relations.

On February 18 2016 03:32 opisska wrote:


But US isn't living in Middle Ages either, I am pretty sure of that, because in Middle Ages, there was no US

On February 18 2016 04:58 opisska wrote:


Public relations with whom? Monks? Isn't this perpetual cycle of "problems" just in people's heads? Does this feared "public" even exist? If it does, do they even use internet?

On February 18 2016 08:20 phodacbiet wrote:


A lot of new gamers are kids and need their parents' money to buy games. Do you think parents would like it if little Jimmy's favorite player is sponsored by Pornhub? I mean it seems normal to us because we're basement dwellers, but the world isnt as progressive as people think. Porn is still a taboo in a lot of places. Everyone watches it, but they don't really talk about it or advertise it in public.

On February 18 2016 11:52 swissman777 wrote:

Using ur logic I guess we should welcome matchfixing mafias as sponsors too then huh

On February 17 2016 20:45 207aicila wrote:


What are you talking about, pornography is one of the most profitable industries out there and has been for decades.

On February 18 2016 04:58 opisska wrote:


Public relations with whom? Monks? Isn't this perpetual cycle of "problems" just in people's heads? Does this feared "public" even exist? If it does, do they even use internet?

On February 18 2016 08:20 phodacbiet wrote:
A lot of new gamers are kids and need their parents' money to buy games. Do you think parents would like it if little Jimmy's favorite player is sponsored by Pornhub? I mean it seems normal to us because we're basement dwellers, but the world isnt as progressive as people think. Porn is still a taboo in a lot of places. Everyone watches it, but they don't really talk about it or advertise it in public.

On February 18 2016 23:06 brickrd wrote:

it's because the porn business is largely fueled by women who don't want to be doing it and need the money.

On February 18 2016 23:06 brickrd wrote:
you know, the reason a lot of people disagree with porn isn't that they're morally uncomfortable with "consenting adults having sex for money," it's because the porn business is largely fueled by women who don't want to be doing it and need the money. so that's a pretty legitimate reason to be uncomfortable with the sponsorship

not saying they should be banned from having a team or anything (that would be ridiculous), but it's not a stretch to find it kind of disgusting lol

On February 18 2016 23:06 brickrd wrote:
it's because the porn business is largely fueled by women who don't want to be doing it and need the money

On February 19 2016 02:32 Darkhorse wrote:
I think anyone who complains that porn companies shouldn't be allowed to be legit sponsors because of the content they are based on should have to publicly release their browser history lel

On February 19 2016 02:45 BronzeKnee wrote:


Pornography is not good for a relationship or your sex life, just like cheeseburgers are bad for your health. Even though, mounds of research show that, people have shockling little self control when it comes to these things. But I don't really care what you do because it doesn't affect, but if releasing my history is all it takes for you to be wrong, here ya go (ignorant arguments are fun):


*Nevermind, I just realized my email address was shown in my history.*

I guess the people that saw my history can feel free to email me.

On February 19 2016 03:09 Darkhorse wrote:

Good god man. Obvious joke goes way over your head.

Also it's interesting that you equate cheeseburgers to porn, because McDonalds sponsors a shit ton of professional athletes and I don't hear any complaints from people about that lel

On February 19 2016 03:14 Deathstar wrote:
I too wonder how I would survive if I fell into a black hole.

On February 19 2016 03:16 BronzeKnee wrote:


You just don't talk to me enough brah to hear those complaints.

And it didn't go over my head man, I just took it a step further. Jokes are more funny, when they are true. Make it true. Now where is your history? I wanna see if you like shemales.

On February 19 2016 02:45 BronzeKnee wrote:


Pornography is not good for a relationship or your sex life, just like cheeseburgers are bad for your health. Even though, mounds of research show that, people have shockling little self control when it comes to these things. But I don't really care what you do because it doesn't affect, but if releasing my history is all it takes for you to be wrong, here ya go (ignorant arguments are fun):


*Nevermind, I just realized my email address was shown in my history.*

I guess the people that saw my history can feel free to email me.

On February 18 2016 23:06 brickrd wrote:
you know, the reason a lot of people disagree with porn isn't that they're morally uncomfortable with "consenting adults having sex for money," it's because the porn business is largely fueled by women who don't want to be doing it and need the money. so that's a pretty legitimate reason to be uncomfortable with the sponsorship

not saying they should be banned from having a team or anything (that would be ridiculous), but it's not a stretch to find it kind of disgusting lol

On February 17 2016 05:23 OtherWorld wrote:
hmm I don't exactly get what's the point of sponsoring a team if you can't use your logo or even something very close to your logo (à la non-tobacco liveried Ferrari F1), but nice to see them step into SC2 I guess
though this roster is not enough to have a YP vs dP showmatch

On February 19 2016 13:33 dearyuna wrote:
Hey y'all, I havent posted here in ages.

Had a chat with Dragon via FB:
1. To confirm once and for all, he said yes, YP is part of the site that everyones thinking about even if its not mentioned explicitly anywhere. Apparently they do CSGO & Dota sponsorships too?

2. Yes, Dragons trying to go at least Code A in Korea. He said he doesnt think there'll be any issues with being sponsored by team YP and competing professionally. He used soccer (football for you european folks) as an example of how theres a team sponsored by another similar site. If there are any specific conflicts of interest Dragon seems to be missing, let me know and I can relay the message to him.

On February 20 2016 01:52 mikumegurine wrote:
btw in the past, a few fighting game tournament streams ,

have not allowed the team tag "YP" to be shown on stream

so basically it just showed the name of the player

(YP has 2 or so fighting game players on the team, YP Filipino man and YP Valmaster)

reasons were something like the main sponsors of the tournament did not want to be associated with what the YP tag represented