EPTI see no choice but to boycot YouPorn in favor of PornHub, xHamster and SpankBang, God Bless.
Congrats to Dragon, good team for him I think.
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
I see no choice but to boycot YouPorn in favor of PornHub, xHamster and SpankBang, God Bless. Congrats to Dragon, good team for him I think. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 17 2016 18:33 deacon.frost wrote: I've never understand what's so wrong with pornography. It's a legitimate business. What he probably means - and I agree with him on that - is that you'd never see a real sports team sponsored by YouPorn, while you see teams sponsored by alcohol or tobacco brands ; and the legitimacy of eSports in the eyes of the public will be built by adhering to traditional sports' standards - TV coverage instead of just streams, big sponsors like Samsung, SKTelekom or Acer, events happening in large live venue instead of small studios and being scheduled at least half a year in advance, etc - instead of staying in our own little Twitch culture that is not accessible for laymen. You could even go further : eSports' legitimacy will be built by synchronising its core values with those of traditional sports ; that's why people like Zest are better ambassadors for eSports than unfit Samsung players. And here having a team sponsored by YouPorn is not really in accordance with sports' traditional values. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16103 Posts
On February 17 2016 14:06 BronzeKnee wrote: Pornography is a sideshow. Always has been, always will be. If E-Sports wants to be legitimate, pornography sponsors are exactly what it doesn't need. What a step in the wrong direction. Back in 2011, I really thought I'd be watching SC2 games on TV by now, with teams sponsored by Budweiser and stuff. Instead, I'm still watching games on streams with viewership that has declined, and teams sponsored by pornographers. How could SC2 have been managed so poorly? Why would esports need TV? It's an outdated medium, internet streams are the real thing now. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
On February 17 2016 19:04 OtherWorld wrote: What he probably means - and I agree with him on that - is that you'd never see a real sports team sponsored by YouPorn, while you see teams sponsored by alcohol or tobacco brands ; and the legitimacy of eSports in the eyes of the public will be built by adhering to traditional sports' standards - TV coverage instead of just streams, big sponsors like Samsung, SKTelekom or Acer, events happening in large live venue instead of small studios and being scheduled at least half a year in advance, etc - instead of staying in our own little Twitch culture that is not accessible for laymen. You could even go further : eSports' legitimacy will be built by synchronising its core values with those of traditional sports ; that's why people like Zest are better ambassadors for eSports than unfit Samsung players. And here having a team sponsored by YouPorn is not really in accordance with sports' traditional values. In "real" sports you don't have the target audience, though  Which is young audience between 18 - 30, mostly male.Also in "real" sports the money barrier to enter is actually pretty high. Their best bet is actually e-sport. It has the target audience which "Real" sports are missing and it has low entry barrier | ||
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Ronski
Finland266 Posts
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Paukum
Norway60 Posts
On February 17 2016 15:58 digmouse wrote: I believe the WCS rulebook covers Korean events as well, but yeah I doubt this will matter as Dragon isn't exactly playing very competitively anyway. Dragon seems to be pretty set on trying to qualify for code a, so it sort of matters. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16103 Posts
On February 17 2016 19:34 Ronski wrote: Well in order to support Esports I will visit their sponsors website more often. I support esports too^^ | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On February 17 2016 19:00 Saechiis wrote: Because peepees and vaginers, sinners! I see no choice but to boycot YouPorn in favor of PornHub, xHamster and SpankBang, God Bless. Congrats to Dragon, good team for him I think. Pornhub belongs to the same company then Youporn. But know I get the irony... Cool for Dragon. He never looked like the competitive guy, so I think he doesnt have to care about WCS and other Leagues. He will stick to online cups and his streaming seems to work for him, he has a quite decent viewer number. When it comes to beer against porn, I dont mind both sides of sponsors. Beer is legal from +16 in Germany, porn from +18. Porn is for me mainstream culture and entertainment, I dont see why sides like Brazzers (or here their free sister side YP) shoudlnt sponsor things and search for coustomers that way. I dont know any guy (and girl), who did not found and watched porn before they have become 18. Why should adds make this "worse"? | ||
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207aicila
1237 Posts
On February 17 2016 14:06 BronzeKnee wrote: Pornography is a sideshow. Always has been, always will be. If E-Sports wants to be legitimate, pornography sponsors are exactly what it doesn't need. What a step in the wrong direction. Back in 2011, I really thought I'd be watching SC2 games on TV by now, with teams sponsored by Budweiser and stuff. Instead, I'm still watching games on streams with viewership that has declined, and teams sponsored by pornographers. How could SC2 have been managed so poorly? What are you talking about, pornography is one of the most profitable industries out there and has been for decades. | ||
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jackacea
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Charoisaur
Germany16103 Posts
I dont know any guy (and girl), who did not found and watched porn before they have become 18. Why should adds make this "worse"? I didnt watch any porn before I turned 18  | ||
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JoeCool
Germany2520 Posts
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JoeCool
Germany2520 Posts
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Ace Frehley
2030 Posts
I doubt they are paying a lot of money to dragon, and dragon has a decent number of viewers and streams a lot | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
On February 17 2016 09:49 swissman777 wrote: Hey, I wan't aware and I know you porn.... but I get the point. Still, if it is recognized by only those who know about it, how would you expect to sell your brand.... you have to make some profit Well I don't think this sponsorship is meant to capture new audience. Probably more to entice the audience that already peruses mature content to become a bit more loyal (like me for instance). To all the people that abhor porn or think its tasteless, I ask that you keep an open mind towards pornography. Its not just the sleazy underground debasing of woman by immoral men. And there are no more incidents of actual underage women performing in pornography. The porno industry is very strict about age, amongst other things. There are unions for adult entertainers that protect their rights, and no porn actor is forced to do anything they don't feel comfortable doing. The porn of the 70/80 is not the same as the porn we have today, well not exactly the same. There are some very artistic pornography that focuses on the sensuality and seduction. The art of intercourse is actually very beautiful, if its done tastefully and with respect. Mind you, there are still plenty of videos of the raunchy that focuses on slutty women being aggressively penetrated by men with exceptionally large penises. There are also plenty that feel adult websites cheapens the e-sports scene, and don't want anything to do with this dirty money. Why should we be put on the same platform as traditional sports franchises? I think e-sports should have its own identity, and not rely on a previous formula. The 'standard' to reach mainstream is made up in our own heads because we see it done by example, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't set our own examples. I don't know if this is a good move by YouPorn, but please don't judge things through stringent restrictions. Keep an open mind, and see how things unfold before laying down your stamp of disapproval. | ||
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HugoBallzak
700 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
On February 17 2016 23:34 Charoisaur wrote: I didnt watch any porn before I turned 18 The question is how are rated games their teams are playing? I remember Proleague turning off blood because of the rating of the show. I don't mean games per se, but more the show that shows the game. SC2 is rated 13+ I think so 18+ adds could be problematic(maybe that's the root of the rule about no porn sponsorship) | ||
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
On February 17 2016 23:53 Ace Frehley wrote: I don't see how can this be a bad deal for YP I doubt they are paying a lot of money to dragon, and dragon has a decent number of viewers and streams a lot It's not your position to be thinking about these things in the first place lol. YP is sponsoring a sc2 player. That's good enough. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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mikumegurine
Canada3145 Posts
Team YP sponsers alots of games, even fighting game players too though some tournament streams dont allow the "YP" tag to be shown on stream cause of what it stands for | ||
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