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On January 22 2016 06:19 BisuDagger wrote:
You guys are some major downers lol. SMH
Haha, I personally found the message of IEM hilarious too so I can understand people nagging on it. I'm sure even without the top koreans it can be enjoyable, but personally I find this system really bad and depressing.
I hope in 2017 there will be more showdowns of top foreigners vs top koreans again. Sucks that's far away though and who knows, maybe things will just get worse.
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On January 22 2016 06:01 IceBerrY wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 04:04 ProtossMasterRace wrote:
Why even write best 32 when they know it is not true. It is just insulting to people who actually know the starcraft 2 scene. This is not even top 100 (Maybe the Koreans who are allowed there). Yeah right... oh wait, actually no you are not. You are wrong. I won´t argue that those are are top players, but according to aligulac they are all top 100. Which source did you use for claiming such a statement?
Any random Code B korean is better then foreigners and there is more of them then 100, didn't really look into it but I think that is a fair assumption to say that there are 100 better koreans then the best foreigners atm with the exception of the very few at the top who maybe, just maybe are in top 100.
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I don't think anyone would be as negative as they are, if IEM used some other wording for this announcement. Calling these players the '32 best players' is just ridiculous.
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I mean technically they aren't the 32 best SC2 players in the world, but I like that TLO was invited so he can win another tournament so it's all ok imo.
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On January 22 2016 06:02 Sholip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 05:09 showstealer1829 wrote:On January 22 2016 05:05 Prog455 wrote:On January 22 2016 03:28 DinoMight wrote:On January 22 2016 03:20 WrathSCII wrote:
The tournament will see the 32 best StarCraft II players in the world compete and we anxiously await the results of the remaining regional qualifiers to reveal the remaining 22 players. Facepalm.gif These are not the best 32 players in the world... these are the best 32 players in this stupid bubble created by Blizzard to foster local talent at the expense of match quality. Honestly Stuchiu was right. People might not like his ESPN article because it's negative, but this scene is declining fast. I have absolutely no desire to watch any tournament that doesn't at least have a couple of decent Koreans to set the bar. Otherwise I might as well just watch my friends play each other. How can you say that the scene is declining fast when you haven't even seen the viewer numbers for this tournament. SC2 is more than just Korea, and just because Korea historically has been the superior country, there is no reasons that we can't build a strong european scene. One that might eventually surpass Korea You funny kid. You tell funny joke lol Why, he's not even that wrong. If Blizzard continue to divide the scene and exclude Koreans from the WCS events, the whole Korean scene may eventually just die out because there will not be more new Koreans to play the game, sponsors depart, etc. And at that point, the artificially stabilized European scene shall have surpassed Korea. (I hope it never comes to this, though.)
Honestly at this point that's the brighter future for sc2. Because the other is no sc2 both in Korea and Eu.
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On January 22 2016 06:02 Sholip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 05:09 showstealer1829 wrote:On January 22 2016 05:05 Prog455 wrote:On January 22 2016 03:28 DinoMight wrote:On January 22 2016 03:20 WrathSCII wrote:
The tournament will see the 32 best StarCraft II players in the world compete and we anxiously await the results of the remaining regional qualifiers to reveal the remaining 22 players. Facepalm.gif These are not the best 32 players in the world... these are the best 32 players in this stupid bubble created by Blizzard to foster local talent at the expense of match quality. Honestly Stuchiu was right. People might not like his ESPN article because it's negative, but this scene is declining fast. I have absolutely no desire to watch any tournament that doesn't at least have a couple of decent Koreans to set the bar. Otherwise I might as well just watch my friends play each other. How can you say that the scene is declining fast when you haven't even seen the viewer numbers for this tournament. SC2 is more than just Korea, and just because Korea historically has been the superior country, there is no reasons that we can't build a strong european scene. One that might eventually surpass Korea You funny kid. You tell funny joke lol Why, he's not even that wrong. If Blizzard continue to divide the scene and exclude Koreans from the WCS events, the whole Korean scene may eventually just die out because there will not be more new Koreans to play the game, sponsors depart, etc. And at that point, the artificially stabilized European scene shall have surpassed Korea. (I hope it never comes to this, though.)
Instead of improving the foreigners we just kill the Korean scene... What a way for foreigners to surpass Korea, tie its arms and legs and start a wrestling match.
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we're getting trolled so hard
well played
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United States97277 Posts
I think this is going to be a great tournament!! Looking forward to it!! 
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How is this a "World Championship" if there's 8 invited people, and no top Koreans?
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When are we going to hear about IEM Taipei which is in like a week and is the one I'm keen to watch.
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On January 22 2016 08:01 20-Minute-Jackal wrote:
How is this a "World Championship" if there's 8 invited people, and no top Koreans?
The World has excluded Korea. The people from this country are now known as the ugly aliens coming to take our money.
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On January 22 2016 06:30 Ppjack wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 06:04 Prog455 wrote:On January 22 2016 05:31 ProtossMasterRace wrote:On January 22 2016 05:05 Prog455 wrote:On January 22 2016 03:28 DinoMight wrote:On January 22 2016 03:20 WrathSCII wrote:
The tournament will see the 32 best StarCraft II players in the world compete and we anxiously await the results of the remaining regional qualifiers to reveal the remaining 22 players. Facepalm.gif These are not the best 32 players in the world... these are the best 32 players in this stupid bubble created by Blizzard to foster local talent at the expense of match quality. Honestly Stuchiu was right. People might not like his ESPN article because it's negative, but this scene is declining fast. I have absolutely no desire to watch any tournament that doesn't at least have a couple of decent Koreans to set the bar. Otherwise I might as well just watch my friends play each other. How can you say that the scene is declining fast when you haven't even seen the viewer numbers for this tournament. SC2 is more than just Korea, and just because Korea historically has been the superior country, there is no reasons that we can't build a strong european scene. One that might eventually surpass Korea There is no way that the foreign scene would ever surpass Korea in general. There was a time when foreigners could compete with top koreans. Not many of them but there were some, Huk, Naniwa, Stephano, Idra etc. but with these changes foreigners will have no chance to practice against top koreans therefore no chance of competing agaisnt them in skill and yes Korea will always be the top of Starcraft unless everyone there quits and there are no new players to take their place. I hope that day will never come. This (local players competing) might appeal to some of the casual viewers, but lets face it, the viewer base of starcraft is not that big and I would assume it is mostly the hardcore fans of starcraft that prefer high level of play which we will see a lot less of. That being said I will probably watch this tournament and DH and cheer for some of my favourite foreigners there is nothing wrong with that hopefully it will turn out to be entertaining. Marinelord has recently beaten Parting and Innovation. Snute and Bunny beats Koreans from time to time aswell. Saying that Europeans will never reach the level of Koreans because they no longer compete against them is bullshit. Koreans made it to their current skill level only competing against themselves, surely there is no reason why Europeans shouldn't be able to do the same. There is so much pro-Korea bias on this site, that it is impossible to have a reasonable discussion about the state of SC2. This
ML is a cheater. Check his the next first OFFLINE game and you will see how bad he actually is. French eSports scene is worse then pron
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On January 22 2016 03:58 Bagration wrote:
Not the best 32, but then again college sports in the US are immensely popular, when people know that the pro leagues are significantly better.
If these guys can give us entertaining close games, show that personality and creativity, it might not be too bad. Sometimes close entertaining games are better for a tournament than unleashing a couple of world class Koreans and getting a one-sided stomp and no surprises to who ends up lifting the trophy at the end.
I for one have NEVER understood the appeal of college sports. Who cares who wins a tournament if you know the winner of that under league would just get wrecked by a pro or a pro team?
I've never understood only watching 2nd rate kinds of competition.
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Now watch as they announce that they are making WCS global event instead and invite actual top 32 Kappa
One can dream right?
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On January 22 2016 03:26 Ej_ wrote:
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The tournament will see the 32 best StarCraft II players in the world compete
going to be the new meme?
its actually going to be an old one. Because the best player in the world (outside of korea) is from bw times. But yeah with the regions that cut off we can start that again.
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if you wanna watch a tournament with only koreans to have the best 32, go watch gsl.
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On January 22 2016 08:08 madness1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2016 06:30 Ppjack wrote:On January 22 2016 06:04 Prog455 wrote:On January 22 2016 05:31 ProtossMasterRace wrote:On January 22 2016 05:05 Prog455 wrote:On January 22 2016 03:28 DinoMight wrote:On January 22 2016 03:20 WrathSCII wrote:
The tournament will see the 32 best StarCraft II players in the world compete and we anxiously await the results of the remaining regional qualifiers to reveal the remaining 22 players. Facepalm.gif These are not the best 32 players in the world... these are the best 32 players in this stupid bubble created by Blizzard to foster local talent at the expense of match quality. Honestly Stuchiu was right. People might not like his ESPN article because it's negative, but this scene is declining fast. I have absolutely no desire to watch any tournament that doesn't at least have a couple of decent Koreans to set the bar. Otherwise I might as well just watch my friends play each other. How can you say that the scene is declining fast when you haven't even seen the viewer numbers for this tournament. SC2 is more than just Korea, and just because Korea historically has been the superior country, there is no reasons that we can't build a strong european scene. One that might eventually surpass Korea There is no way that the foreign scene would ever surpass Korea in general. There was a time when foreigners could compete with top koreans. Not many of them but there were some, Huk, Naniwa, Stephano, Idra etc. but with these changes foreigners will have no chance to practice against top koreans therefore no chance of competing agaisnt them in skill and yes Korea will always be the top of Starcraft unless everyone there quits and there are no new players to take their place. I hope that day will never come. This (local players competing) might appeal to some of the casual viewers, but lets face it, the viewer base of starcraft is not that big and I would assume it is mostly the hardcore fans of starcraft that prefer high level of play which we will see a lot less of. That being said I will probably watch this tournament and DH and cheer for some of my favourite foreigners there is nothing wrong with that hopefully it will turn out to be entertaining. Marinelord has recently beaten Parting and Innovation. Snute and Bunny beats Koreans from time to time aswell. Saying that Europeans will never reach the level of Koreans because they no longer compete against them is bullshit. Koreans made it to their current skill level only competing against themselves, surely there is no reason why Europeans shouldn't be able to do the same. There is so much pro-Korea bias on this site, that it is impossible to have a reasonable discussion about the state of SC2. This ML is a cheater. Check his the next first OFFLINE game and you will see how bad he actually is. French eSports scene is worse then pron User was temp banned for this post.
You are telling me it was not the lack of sleep from INno???
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Idk why you want to watch Korean in foreign tournament so much. If you want to watch Korean, watch Korean tournament. You can do this everyday when proleague starts. They prepare for Korean tournament far better than foreign tournament. You can watch better quality game than foreign tournament.
You should learn these Korean dominated scene is stupid and bad for this game. Blizzard is trying to change this. SC2 is the only community that likes Korean dominated scene. Learn how LoL community don't like Korean domination and their love for local team.
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The initial eight players are receiving their invites based on their standings in the 2015 WCS ranking, with the exclusion of players based in Korea, which gives us the following invites:
Lmao best players in the world.
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