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RKC
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Last Edited: 2016-01-25 15:16:36
January 25 2016 15:16 GMT
#221
sorry, double post.
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Cele
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January 25 2016 15:35 GMT
#222
"The tournament will see the 2 of the decent Korean players best StarCraft II players in the world compete"

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Last Edited: 2016-01-26 11:10:24
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On January 26 2016 00:14 RKC wrote:
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On January 25 2016 23:29 looken wrote:
I find it funny how people argue that SC2 should be more like tennis. Do you really want the scene to look like high level tennis? In 2015 whenever Djokovic and Federer entered a tournament you pretty much knew how the finals will look like. Most of the time i actually skipped the entire tournament except the finals. Do you really want the SC2 scene to go into that direction? Now if you simply wanna see the best level of play, okay fine. Then why dont you just watch the personal streams of the best players in the world?

Funny side note to all the elitist "oh but only the best play in the world is worthy of my time"-people. If you truly wanted to see only, and really ONLY, the highest level of play, you would only watch the GSL finals, because only there the two best players in the hardest tournament of the world (according to tastosis: GSL) actually meet and play each other. Or are there different kinds of "best play in the world"


Firstly, there has been never such extreme domination in SC2 (the closest is perhaps Flash-Jaedong in BW, even then they were not sweeping all OSLs and MSLs in a row for 4-5 years).

Secondly, even if such domination exist, there's nothing wrong with it. Even if I was Asian and a Nishikori fan, I would rather tune in to Djokovic vs Nishikori in a Grand Slam than Nishikori vs some random Japanese dude in an ATP Japan Open (that Djokovic skipped). And for those who enjoy watching mediocre local favourites fighting each other, feel free to watch them in the earlier rounds of the Grand Slam.


Sadly, no Nishikoris make it to the Grand Slam finals, not even close. And because of that, the Nishikoris dont even try no more, because it is futile, a waste of time, effort and most of all, money (please dont give me the passion and dedication argument here. if you cant buy food off of your job, you need to find another job. passion doesnt pay your rent...)

On January 26 2016 00:14 RKC wrote:
I would argue that an open tournament has more diverse match-ups (hence more interesting for viewers). Low, mid and top players all get meet against each other. Whereas a closed tourney with the top players banned limits the match-ups only between low and mid players. So essentially those supporting closed tourneys want to see: (a) more low and mid match ups throughout the tourney (at the expense of low, mid and top match ups) and: (b) a finals between mid players (at the expense of a finals between two top players, or possibly even one top and one mid player). To me, such a preference just boggles my mind.


I'm sorry, but i dont really see how a tournament consisting mostly of Koreans offers more diversity. It is well known that for a long time, it was actually the foreigners that innovated the game. Koreans copied and then perfected their stiles. But make no mistake, most Koreans play either standard, or have a specific build prepared for their opponent (which only works in a GSL-like format). so i cant really support your point of "more diversity".

so essentially those supporting closed tourneys want a foreign scene, that actually deserves the name.

On January 26 2016 00:14 RKC wrote:
An open tournament might possibly have Nishikori meeting Djokovic and also random Japanese dude. But a closed tourney will only have the possibility of Nishikori meeting random Japanese dude. To me, my choice is quite clear.


Again, i belive you are wrong and i dont understand how you dont realize your mistake. Look at the SC2 scene. The amount of foreign talent is dwindling. open tournaments will lead to the extinction of the foreign scene, so Nishikori meeting Djokovic anywhere at all is simply an illusion, because there wont be any Nishikoris left.

That being said, i understand your desire to see the best players compete, not just mid tier players. yet, you can still do that. just not at every single tournament. but there are still quite a few tournaments in Korea. so if the cost is that you dont get to see the best players at all the tournaments, but the benefit is that we get a strong and growing foreign scene i think the benefits outweigh the cost quite a bit.
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