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Deimos Disbanding.

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Tbatz
Profile Joined September 2013
Canada105 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 18:08:57
May 03 2014 19:59 GMT
#1
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Deimos, a team that was started with a gold player, 2 plats, and a masters (Myself Tbatz). I was a part of many teams, and managed alot of teams including with Sphere, All Inspiration, and Warrior Nation. I thought I could put time into a team and run it the way a team should be ran, so I went on google and looked for cool names, the first one I decided was Primal, cuz I thought it was pretty cool, but it was taken. After that, I looked through greek gods and that, and found Deimos, the spirit of Fear and Terror, and it was pretty cool.

So the team started out pretty well, about 2 weeks in we had a decent masters lineup, and started actively doing clanwars. Around this time, we picked up a player named TechNo, who would turn into being one of the best managers an sc2 team has ever had.

Many months later, we had a top masters team(See here), which I was very proud of and we got pretty high ranked on Sc2ranks, but I wanted to break into the GM scene, and contacted probably half the GM list trying to get, but was pretty unsuccessful. In October, a player came to me saying that a player named Guitarcheese was looking for a team, but for pay. At this time I made quite good money, working construction, so i decided to check it out. I talked to him, and I decided to go with it, and with that came the start of our semi pro team, and a few days after that, we partnered with ownaj for clothing, and Drunkenboi joined the team. In 2013, we picked up Bails, Siphonn, KoMA, and Sanddbox. Our team was finally one of the strongest NA teams.

2014 we decided to start adding to the NA scene, and getting our name out there, so I saved up some money, and started the DETL (See here). We had great organization, amazing casters including FearDragon, Temp0, Nanman, Boisterois, and a few more. Also, the best teams in NA including IvD, RooT, CoL and Clarity. We put uncountable hours into it, TechNo maknig the top 5 plays of the week (See Here), amazing production and observing from KurenTV, and some good feedback. We were hoping for this to get good support and continue with it for a 2nd season of DETL with a 5k+ prize pool, 10 teams with 4 qualifier spots for teams anywhere, a great casting crew and higher production. Unfortunately, we had very little support from the NA scene to do this, 0 donations, and 0 sponsorship backup, which comes with me no longer being able to financially support the team since I got laid off without much notice, and my trade being in a very dry season, cannot find a job.
In the end, we had an absolutely amazing team, we went from nothing to being the strongest Canadian team, and one of the strongest on North America, and really without any drama. The experiences I had were great, meeting people I never would have without the team, and making many friends. Special thanks to TechNo, for being the best damn manager a team could have. ReD for making amazing graphics, the people who put a crazy amount of hours into the DETL, my GF Siren for supporting me so much with everything i have done, the players who did so much for the team including Guitarcheese, Bails, Siphonn, Flatline, Pluto, DeeMo, Evolution, EliGE, and more. My only regret is that we didnt make it to MLG Anaheim.

Goodbye

Braydon "Tbatz" Nowakowski

I'm sad to see this happen to the team, but being involved has been one of the best experiences of my life. It was something special to help build the team from nothing to semi-pro/pro status. I've met some amazing people and have made some (hopefully) long lasting friendships.
Passion and love for the game is what kept us going, and I don't regret any time spent on it. It was a great learning experience for myself. Aside from managing the team I built and designed the website, handled business and PR exposure, coordinated the DETL and created content for it, and even found out how to make a twitch bot (RIP Deimosbot). Working behind the scenes really gives one an appreciation for how much work goes into upkeeping a team and creating content and production. The things teams do for the scene and for the love of the game is amazing.
I think Tbatz and I did pretty good for two unknown guys from Saskatoon. When he first came to me looking for masters players and wanting to make a "pro" team I thought he was crazy and just a dreamer. Didn't think it would get this far. I'd like to thank all of the Deimos boys first of all. The team really felt like a family. If you were away from skype for 1 day, you would have missed probably a thousand or more messages. Everyone was great to be around and to talk to, and these guys have some serious skill and a ton of potential in SC2. Big thanks to the people who supported us. You guys really kept us going. Even something as simple as kind words in a reddit post meant a lot.
If I can ask one thing of the community, it would be to give more support to up-and-coming teams. It's really tough to break out, and even the smallest gestures can mean a lot.
Thanks for all the fun SC2 community, I definitely won't be leaving.

-Scott "TechNo" Clandinin

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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
May 03 2014 20:04 GMT
#2
Fuckkk I was really looking forward to DETL season 2 . Best of luck to you, the management, and the players in everything you do in the future
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
May 03 2014 20:06 GMT
#3
if you need donations to survive then you probably never had a healthy business model to begin with

still sad to see people's hard work not getting them where they wanted
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
GravTrace
Profile Joined February 2014
United States27 Posts
May 03 2014 20:08 GMT
#4
Good luck in whatever you do, Tbatz
EseNcEIncubus
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada39 Posts
May 03 2014 20:09 GMT
#5
Thanks for everything! You guys contributed so much to the NA scene.
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
May 03 2014 20:09 GMT
#6
Very sad to see this happening but I wish the absolute best of luck to everyone who was a member of team Deimos. Really great team and really friendly group of people! =[
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
May 03 2014 20:10 GMT
#7
damn sucks man, at least you tried
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
May 03 2014 20:13 GMT
#8
Bit offtopic but I went to check your website and clicked shop.
http://ownaj.com/partnerstore/deimos

Deimos Hoodie and Deimos Tee looks so badass.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
ZenMeng
Profile Joined May 2013
United States31 Posts
May 03 2014 20:13 GMT
#9
You're the man Tbatz! Best of luck to all members of Deimos <3
Make expand... Defense it....
teamgravity
Profile Joined July 2013
United States354 Posts
May 03 2014 20:15 GMT
#10
Sad to see you leave
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 03 2014 20:15 GMT
#11
Damn that sucks to hear. You guys were drama free and made great content. Wish you all the best and thank you for being an organization NA could be proud of. You guys did well.
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TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
May 03 2014 20:16 GMT
#12
I'm sad to see this happen to the team, but being involved has been one of the best experiences of my life. It was something special to help build the team from nothing to semi-pro/pro status. I've met some amazing people and have made some (hopefully) long lasting friendships.

Passion and love for the game is what kept us going, and I don't regret any time spent on it. It was a great learning experience for myself. Aside from managing the team I built and designed the website, handled business and PR exposure, coordinated the DETL and created content for it, and even found out how to make a twitch bot (RIP Deimosbot). Working behind the scenes really gives one an appreciation for how much work goes into upkeeping a team and creating content and production. The things teams do for the scene and for the love of the game is amazing.

I think Tbatz and I did pretty good for two unknown guys from Saskatoon. When he first came to me looking for masters players and wanting to make a "pro" team I thought he was crazy and just a dreamer. Didn't think it would get this far. I'd like to thank all of the Deimos boys first of all. The team really felt like a family. If you were away from skype for 1 day, you would have missed probably a thousand or more messages. Everyone was great to be around and to talk to, and these guys have some serious skill and a ton of potential in SC2. Big thanks to the people who supported us. You guys really kept us going. Even something as simple as kind words in a reddit post meant a lot.

If I can ask one thing of the community, it would be to give more support to up-and-coming teams. It's really tough to break out, and even the smallest gestures can mean a lot.

Thanks for all the fun SC2 community, I definitely won't be leaving.

-Scott "TechNo" Clandinin
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
ElhayM
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada134 Posts
May 03 2014 20:17 GMT
#13
Thanks for everything Deimos, you guys were a good group of people!
Team Captain Flipsid3 Tactics | @F3ElhayM
Wardi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
England897 Posts
May 03 2014 20:17 GMT
#14
Sad to see this happen, was a pleasure having Deimos in the team league I run.

In reality though it's impossible to rely on donations & sponsors to stay alive in these kinds of positions. The DETL, though very well ran and with really awesome production with the top 5 plays etc, never truly kicked it off with the viewers. Considering it was literally all of the top NA teams with a really nice prize pool the viewership each week was far from spectacular.

It's hard - because what can you do? You can't force people to watch. It was well promoted, well ran, it had added extras and anything viewers would want from a larger tournament, but it's just not enough without the top top top players and well known personalities it feels.

Sucks to see the brutal world of esports taking down another great semi-pro or so team. Best of luck to all players & persons of management in the future.
CommentatorOwner of WardiTV. Streamer, caster & event organizer. / / www.wardi.tv
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
May 03 2014 20:20 GMT
#15
I was always surprised at the low viewership for DETL, people just don't bother to try out new events that they haven't heard of, their loss as the production was awesome and the games were super fun. The weekly top 5 vids were reminiscent of the IPL vids and they were fantastic every time. You're the man TechNo
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-03 20:24:04
May 03 2014 20:23 GMT
#16
Your team's name resounds in my head, though I can't put my finger on it. Sad to see a team go, great job putting this up from scratch. I feel that lack, or rather insufficiency, of teamleagues is a bane of foreign SC2's existance. It makes a team model much harder to sustain which in turn deprives players of a strict practice enviroment (people debate on that, I'm a beliver).
Are you done with esports or do you leave the door open in a "maybe but not really" kinda way?
Gl in all you do
SC2CTL
Profile Joined July 2013
Canada104 Posts
May 03 2014 20:23 GMT
#17
I wish I could say I was surprised, but Deimos was pretty clearly a "self-sponsored" team and without significant work and consistent high-quality content production, that's just not a sustainable business model.

Sad to see them go.

Except for Guitarcheese, that guy's just not very good at the game. Probably has WinterStarcraft boosting his account to GM.

Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
May 03 2014 20:26 GMT
#18
On May 04 2014 05:20 Yorkie wrote:
I was always surprised at the low viewership for DETL, people just don't bother to try out new events that they haven't heard of, their loss as the production was awesome and the games were super fun. The weekly top 5 vids were reminiscent of the IPL vids and they were fantastic every time. You're the man TechNo

for my part it never seemed to be on at times that were good for me to watch, wasn't sure where to find vods, didn't hear a lot about it in general and the casters weren't my cup of tea. i was interested in watching it from when i first heard about it, but i don't really have the kind of life where i just sit around all day looking for starcraft content, so if there's not a lot of buzz then it's likely just not going to enter my consciousness too often. not sure if anyone had similar experiences
nerpderp
Profile Joined February 2013
United States780 Posts
May 03 2014 20:27 GMT
#19
Running a North American team is a hard business, so on behalf of the NA community, I want to thank you for everything you've done for the scene. Guitarcheese and Bails are now staples of the competitive scene, and the DETL was a great tournament. You have a lot to be proud of, and I hope the team can be resurrected in the future, better than ever.
"It's not that I have A.D.D., it's just that oh look a bunny rabbit!"
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
May 03 2014 20:29 GMT
#20
On May 04 2014 05:26 Waise wrote:
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On May 04 2014 05:20 Yorkie wrote:
I was always surprised at the low viewership for DETL, people just don't bother to try out new events that they haven't heard of, their loss as the production was awesome and the games were super fun. The weekly top 5 vids were reminiscent of the IPL vids and they were fantastic every time. You're the man TechNo

for my part it never seemed to be on at times that were good for me to watch, wasn't sure where to find vods, didn't hear a lot about it in general and the casters weren't my cup of tea. i was interested in watching it from when i first heard about it, but i don't really have the kind of life where i just sit around all day looking for starcraft content, so if there's not a lot of buzz then it's likely just not going to enter my consciousness too often. not sure if anyone had similar experiences

It was Friday nights and Sunday afternoons iirc. Decent times for viewership, although I don't know what your time zone situation was. The schedule was well published and their youtube channel was updated consistently. If you don't like the casters, that's your prerogative, but you didn't need to "have the kind of life where I just sit around all day looking for starcraft content" in order to watch it...
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
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