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Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
February 10 2014 13:27 GMT
#61
I care more about quality of games than the amount of flags I see when I check liquipedia.
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
February 10 2014 16:03 GMT
#62
On February 10 2014 22:18 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 22:07 slowbacontron wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On February 10 2014 08:24 vult wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:58 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:57 ZAiNs wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:50 IncubusSC wrote:
The Protoss race is a $100,000 richer.

Because Stardust qualified? Really?


MC's gonna take it anyway. %)


If MC were to win it, he would be #1 esports earner of all time. :D


SC2 maybe.

http://www.esportsearnings.com/players
MC is less than $100,000 away from JD.


Don't know how much I can trust this site considering they botched Fatal1ty's earnings for one thing. I literally had to do no more than take all the numbers from his Wikipedia earnings page and add it all up, to see that they underestimate it by a good 10 grand. And that's just Wikipedia, which itself is incomplete (and I've been able to find more tournament earnings not listed there within a couple of minutes).

Just saying yo. Fatal1ty is easily the most monetarily successful in terms of tournament winnings, he's made well over 500k, of course not counting any other deals, salaries, sponsorships and endorsements, of which he's also had plenty. ^^

No doubt esportsearnings isn't complete, but it didn't take long to find a mistake in the Wikipedia page, where Fatal1ty was listed as earning 10,000 USD instead of 1,000 in ESWC 2004. Another Wikipedia prize that wasn't in esportsearnings, the XSR Invitational in 2000, gives Fatal1ty $15000 but a Google search shows disputes between whether the prize was 15000 or "Bragging Rights". And the last event Wiki has but not esportsearnings, is his result "1st CPL Australia ($10,500)" in Quake III. I can't find any sources for or against this, but the other Quake III national CPL events (Holland, Brazil) didn't seem to earn him any money (or maybe they did and THOSE events are missing sources? I really don't know).

So in conclusion, I dunno, I won't side with any earnings site, but I believe the possibility of Fatal1ty's (and JD's) earnings to be < MC's+$100,000 to be plausible.
jjakji fan
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 10 2014 16:06 GMT
#63
Honestly I have a huge hardon for foreign players and this can be seen in virtually any LR I've posted in. But I'm happy with just Naniwa, although I wouldn't mind seeing Scarlett as a second foreigner. They can actually compete to that caliber and take games off nearly any player. Without a good amount of luck/throwing the same cannot be said about very many other foreigners.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
February 10 2014 18:46 GMT
#64
Hoping Jaedong can make it to this.
We need him for the hype!
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
February 10 2014 19:15 GMT
#65
why people whining about koreans

how about the foreigners train harder, stop sucking, and step up their game. many foreigners past and present could compete with koreans because they put in the work and it showed. the rest don't deserve a free pass. sc2 is essentially a meritocracy (ignoring the coin flippy build order wins) and not a welfare state. this is the harsh reality of life, if you don't work hard, you're going to get surpassed. don't know why everyone is crying about a basic fact.
c0olL
Profile Joined November 2012
129 Posts
February 10 2014 19:53 GMT
#66
7P 3Z and 2T. something feels wrong here. i hope that the T and Z will get far, semifinals of PvPvPvP wont be that interesting.
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
February 11 2014 03:08 GMT
#67
On February 10 2014 22:27 Aserrin wrote:
I care more about quality of games than the amount of flags I see when I check liquipedia.

Exactly my thought...good post
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
February 11 2014 03:15 GMT
#68
The one thing that I will argue for foreigners in general, is that they have to use unorthodox strategies because they'll lose to Koreans in a straight-up macro fight almost all of the time, or get wrecked trying. So at least I know I'm getting some sort of fast paced action instead of another captain standard man TvP.

It's actually the reason I love Elfi so much even when he doesn't deliver.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
MidnightZL
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-11 11:48:40
February 11 2014 11:46 GMT
#69
On February 10 2014 07:21 walkeraki3 wrote:
It is sad nowdays when you check brackets and see nothing else but korean flag.. Sad era for SC2..


I admit it feels more special when you got some foreigners to cheer for. Though as a Swede i'm pretty happy with Naniwa, it's such a hard lineup tho so you''ll need more luck than ever, skill isn't enough here i think. But if any foreigner got a chance , it's Naniwa. But we should be glad it's only the best of the best that are competing.
- I'm fairly certain YOLO is just Carpe Diem for stupid people - Jack Black
MidnightZL
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden203 Posts
February 11 2014 11:54 GMT
#70
On February 10 2014 22:27 Aserrin wrote:
I care more about quality of games than the amount of flags I see when I check liquipedia.


Touché!
- I'm fairly certain YOLO is just Carpe Diem for stupid people - Jack Black
cheggelund
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway131 Posts
February 11 2014 13:23 GMT
#71
On February 10 2014 07:21 walkeraki3 wrote:
It is sad nowdays when you check brackets and see nothing else but korean flag.. Sad era for SC2..


It is sad, and IMHO one of the biggest reasons SC2 seems to be past its peak popularity.
While the Koreans are the best players, no doubt, it makes the tournaments much less appealing to us casual fans and the masses when we cannot cheer for our countrymen or women.

I am sure the games will be great ...
cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 12:28:12
February 13 2014 12:27 GMT
#72
On February 11 2014 22:23 cheggelund wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 07:21 walkeraki3 wrote:
It is sad nowdays when you check brackets and see nothing else but korean flag.. Sad era for SC2..


It is sad, and IMHO one of the biggest reasons SC2 seems to be past its peak popularity.
While the Koreans are the best players, no doubt, it makes the tournaments much less appealing to us casual fans and the masses when we cannot cheer for our countrymen or women.

I am sure the games will be great ...

Agreed, it's probably one of the reasons.

It's fun to watch Koreans in GSL and Pro league, but when they dominate elsewhere in the world as much as they do, it tends to get boring. Right now I'm even excited if a foreigner wins versus a Korean in Ro32.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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