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RatzBarcode
Profile Joined December 2013
United States98 Posts
February 10 2014 00:19 GMT
#41
On February 10 2014 07:46 Scoobers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 07:36 Swisslink wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:21 walkeraki3 wrote:
It is sad nowdays when you check brackets and see nothing else but korean flag.. Sad era for SC2..


It's a World Championship. The best players are supposed to play there - and Koreans are the best players. Simple.


I beg to differ that necesairly "the best" and I'm sure that Stephano begs to differ even more than I do.

Btw those 2 other spots are just from the typical open bracket we used to have at IEM tournements last year? Meaning you can sign up for the spot in it and play at the event? It's kinda confusing since it's called "Open Bracket Qualifier".


You beg to differ the best players are Korean? And one retired broodlord infestor abuser is your evidence?
ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
February 10 2014 00:27 GMT
#42
man if sOs were to take this, he'd have made $200,000 from this and Blizzcon in only a couple months. How crazy would that be?
There are things known, and things unknown, and in-between are the doors.
GoodSirTets
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada200 Posts
February 10 2014 00:41 GMT
#43
thought jjakji was european not american..
High Diamond/ Low Masters :^)
Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
February 10 2014 00:47 GMT
#44
inb4 jjakji eliminates taeja in the first round
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
February 10 2014 00:54 GMT
#45
On February 10 2014 09:41 GoodSirTets wrote:
thought jjakji was european not american..

i don't think the qualifiers were region locked
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
February 10 2014 01:05 GMT
#46
Jjakji's public domain, he's Amercan-European-Korean
AnonymousSC2
Profile Joined January 2014
United States189 Posts
February 10 2014 01:28 GMT
#47
On February 10 2014 09:00 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 08:01 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:57 m0ck wrote:
I hope IEM feels that the competitiveness of getting another three Koreans through the qualifiers is worth the lower viewer interest that a tournament with so little foreigner participation will engender.


I'm a foreigner and I'd say having better players is more attractive than just having some foreigners that will 100% lose in the first round. Maybe not everyone feels this way but I feel your view is not neccessarily representative of how all foreigners feel. It's always more exciting to have a foreigner go far, but it's never exciting to see foreigners get trampled.

Haha, I love it that in our little, unique scene I am a foreigner belonging to an inferior group of people containing over 6950000000 people xD


I'm confused as to what you are saying and the purpose so I won't respond to this O.O... Just going to point out there are NOT 6,950,000,000 foreign players and there are a number of reasons why Korean are dominant and it has nothing to do with inferiority or superiority of race or nationality...
izmatic
Profile Joined November 2012
United States104 Posts
February 10 2014 03:45 GMT
#48
On February 10 2014 09:19 RatzBarcode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 07:46 Scoobers wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:36 Swisslink wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:21 walkeraki3 wrote:
It is sad nowdays when you check brackets and see nothing else but korean flag.. Sad era for SC2..


It's a World Championship. The best players are supposed to play there - and Koreans are the best players. Simple.


I beg to differ that necesairly "the best" and I'm sure that Stephano begs to differ even more than I do.

Btw those 2 other spots are just from the typical open bracket we used to have at IEM tournements last year? Meaning you can sign up for the spot in it and play at the event? It's kinda confusing since it's called "Open Bracket Qualifier".


You beg to differ the best players are Korean? And one retired broodlord infestor abuser is your evidence?


lol ummm what?
two wrongs dont make a right, and three rights make a left
Hydro033
Profile Joined July 2012
United States136 Posts
February 10 2014 04:52 GMT
#49
It is a shame SoulKey, JaeDong or Innovation weren't invited over sOs. They each had better collective years than sOs.
#Wet4Ret
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 05:06:38
February 10 2014 05:05 GMT
#50
Oh God....Naniwa is the only foreigner......WIN THIS SHIT !!!! go Nani !

EDIT : Is Scarlet competing or she out ?
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
February 10 2014 05:28 GMT
#51
Naniwa the lone foreigner yet again.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 08:42:45
February 10 2014 08:42 GMT
#52
On February 10 2014 07:21 walkeraki3 wrote:
It is sad nowdays when you check brackets and see nothing else but korean flag.. Sad era for SC2..

Considering they are the very best, it is a good thing for SC2.
If everyone, meaning even inferiour players, were able to qualify over korean progamers, this would show some heavy issues with the game/unit design, as inferiour players should never be able to win that game against a better one.
Sure, thx to cheese &co. it is possible to take of maps, but not tournaments from better ones. So seeing only koreans(besides: nani) is fine by me, it also improves the quality of the games
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 08:58:45
February 10 2014 08:45 GMT
#53
On February 10 2014 07:34 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
Every tournament is 70% toss, 20% zerg, 10% terran. Getting old.

every? Really?
GSL, yeah. And some others recently. But at least 3 Terrans are able to pull off some victories still: look at the top 3 Terrans at Proleague.
Well the 10% T part will be changed with the super useful ghost upgrade
On February 10 2014 07:36 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 07:21 walkeraki3 wrote:
It is sad nowdays when you check brackets and see nothing else but korean flag.. Sad era for SC2..


It's a World Championship. The best players are supposed to play there - and Koreans are the best players. Simple.

agree - though more mixed nations would also be fine, at least as feeds or something. World championship in every other sport means, every nation can send players to the playoffs and players of one nations cannot get to other qualification rounds if they fail at their initial ones.
Imagine soccer world championships where only Brasil will play...
Or, if we are talking about 1v1 Sports or leagues where u have to qualify first: pingpong, tennis etc.
Or: In Formula 1 only Finnish drivers are allowed to drive (because the Championship per population ratio is highest for the Finnish people)
On February 10 2014 09:54 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 09:41 GoodSirTets wrote:
thought jjakji was european not american..

i don't think the qualifiers were region locked

no, they weren't. Dear, Polt and others participated as well at the US Qualifiers, as at the EU qualis
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 08:47:24
February 10 2014 08:46 GMT
#54
On February 10 2014 12:45 izmatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 09:19 RatzBarcode wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:46 Scoobers wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:36 Swisslink wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:21 walkeraki3 wrote:
It is sad nowdays when you check brackets and see nothing else but korean flag.. Sad era for SC2..


It's a World Championship. The best players are supposed to play there - and Koreans are the best players. Simple.


I beg to differ that necesairly "the best" and I'm sure that Stephano begs to differ even more than I do.

Btw those 2 other spots are just from the typical open bracket we used to have at IEM tournements last year? Meaning you can sign up for the spot in it and play at the event? It's kinda confusing since it's called "Open Bracket Qualifier".


You beg to differ the best players are Korean? And one retired broodlord infestor abuser is your evidence?


lol ummm what?


Agreed, Stephano was to me very well known to abuse one single tactic, and it was not broodlord infestor.
Anybody watching him play ZvP probably knows what it was.

edit: I wonder who dares to show up to the open bracket of Katowice. :o
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
February 10 2014 08:56 GMT
#55
On February 10 2014 17:46 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 12:45 izmatic wrote:
On February 10 2014 09:19 RatzBarcode wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:46 Scoobers wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:36 Swisslink wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:21 walkeraki3 wrote:
It is sad nowdays when you check brackets and see nothing else but korean flag.. Sad era for SC2..


It's a World Championship. The best players are supposed to play there - and Koreans are the best players. Simple.


I beg to differ that necesairly "the best" and I'm sure that Stephano begs to differ even more than I do.

Btw those 2 other spots are just from the typical open bracket we used to have at IEM tournements last year? Meaning you can sign up for the spot in it and play at the event? It's kinda confusing since it's called "Open Bracket Qualifier".


You beg to differ the best players are Korean? And one retired broodlord infestor abuser is your evidence?


lol ummm what?


Agreed, Stephano was to me very well known to abuse one single tactic, and it was not broodlord infestor.
Anybody watching him play ZvP probably knows what it was.

edit: I wonder who dares to show up to the open bracket of Katowice. :o

Now, I am intrigued:
Stephano was known for his roach-play. Didn't know HE was the one that abused Winf+GGlord to the max. In fact every TvZ, PvZ lategame looked like this, especially by koreans. So why Stephano the abuser?
And: Stephano developed his Roach-maxout in 2011 and very soon after it, he developed some other strats. Also made Hydralisks work again etc. Now he abuses Swarmhosts a lot in GM (unfortunately he doesn't play progames anymore)
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
February 10 2014 10:03 GMT
#56
On February 10 2014 10:28 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 09:00 Penev wrote:
On February 10 2014 08:01 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:57 m0ck wrote:
I hope IEM feels that the competitiveness of getting another three Koreans through the qualifiers is worth the lower viewer interest that a tournament with so little foreigner participation will engender.


I'm a foreigner and I'd say having better players is more attractive than just having some foreigners that will 100% lose in the first round. Maybe not everyone feels this way but I feel your view is not neccessarily representative of how all foreigners feel. It's always more exciting to have a foreigner go far, but it's never exciting to see foreigners get trampled.

Haha, I love it that in our little, unique scene I am a foreigner belonging to an inferior group of people containing over 6950000000 people xD


I'm confused as to what you are saying and the purpose so I won't respond to this O.O... Just going to point out there are NOT 6,950,000,000 foreign players and there are a number of reasons why Korean are dominant and it has nothing to do with inferiority or superiority of race or nationality...

Wut? O.O
I Protoss winner, could it be?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 10 2014 11:20 GMT
#57
On February 10 2014 19:03 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 10:28 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
On February 10 2014 09:00 Penev wrote:
On February 10 2014 08:01 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:57 m0ck wrote:
I hope IEM feels that the competitiveness of getting another three Koreans through the qualifiers is worth the lower viewer interest that a tournament with so little foreigner participation will engender.


I'm a foreigner and I'd say having better players is more attractive than just having some foreigners that will 100% lose in the first round. Maybe not everyone feels this way but I feel your view is not neccessarily representative of how all foreigners feel. It's always more exciting to have a foreigner go far, but it's never exciting to see foreigners get trampled.

Haha, I love it that in our little, unique scene I am a foreigner belonging to an inferior group of people containing over 6950000000 people xD


I'm confused as to what you are saying and the purpose so I won't respond to this O.O... Just going to point out there are NOT 6,950,000,000 foreign players and there are a number of reasons why Korean are dominant and it has nothing to do with inferiority or superiority of race or nationality...

Wut? O.O

I think he took what you said a little too seriously :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 10 2014 12:36 GMT
#58
On February 10 2014 08:24 vult wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 07:58 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:57 ZAiNs wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:50 IncubusSC wrote:
The Protoss race is a $100,000 richer.

Because Stardust qualified? Really?


MC's gonna take it anyway. %)


If MC were to win it, he would be #1 esports earner of all time. :D


SC2 maybe.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
slowbacontron
Profile Joined October 2012
United States7722 Posts
February 10 2014 13:07 GMT
#59
On February 10 2014 21:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 08:24 vult wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:58 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:57 ZAiNs wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:50 IncubusSC wrote:
The Protoss race is a $100,000 richer.

Because Stardust qualified? Really?


MC's gonna take it anyway. %)


If MC were to win it, he would be #1 esports earner of all time. :D


SC2 maybe.

http://www.esportsearnings.com/players
MC is less than $100,000 away from JD.
jjakji fan
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 10 2014 13:18 GMT
#60
On February 10 2014 22:07 slowbacontron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 21:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On February 10 2014 08:24 vult wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:58 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:57 ZAiNs wrote:
On February 10 2014 07:50 IncubusSC wrote:
The Protoss race is a $100,000 richer.

Because Stardust qualified? Really?


MC's gonna take it anyway. %)


If MC were to win it, he would be #1 esports earner of all time. :D


SC2 maybe.

http://www.esportsearnings.com/players
MC is less than $100,000 away from JD.


Don't know how much I can trust this site considering they botched Fatal1ty's earnings for one thing. I literally had to do no more than take all the numbers from his Wikipedia earnings page and add it all up, to see that they underestimate it by a good 10 grand. And that's just Wikipedia, which itself is incomplete (and I've been able to find more tournament earnings not listed there within a couple of minutes).

Just saying yo. Fatal1ty is easily the most monetarily successful in terms of tournament winnings, he's made well over 500k, of course not counting any other deals, salaries, sponsorships and endorsements, of which he's also had plenty. ^^
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
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