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Val_
Profile Joined May 2010
Ukraine156 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 22:59:23
February 05 2014 22:58 GMT
#41
blah blah blah blah.

nothing interesting.

Sorry if that sounds offensive
he is not touching controversial subjects. Just blah blah like any manager do.
AKA [7x]Val / GML Terran EU
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
February 05 2014 22:58 GMT
#42
That man sure knows how to use a lot words without actually saying anything. He should go into politics.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2014 23:01 GMT
#43
Pretty much what the lastest two pre-posters said. David Kim is wondering why he receives so much hate out of the community - well, kinda because he's either doing crap (wtf, Hydra 25 gas?), or talking sweet nothings.
ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
February 05 2014 23:03 GMT
#44
On February 06 2014 07:58 Squat wrote:
That man sure knows how to use a lot words without actually saying anything. He should go into politics.


Because if you actually go into any specifics when talking to the community, you get burned later.
“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
Autotroph
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom940 Posts
February 05 2014 23:04 GMT
#45
On February 06 2014 07:48 GizmoPT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 07:46 Autotroph wrote:
On February 06 2014 07:28 Meerel wrote:
prepare for shallow answers


Yeah they are quite evasive.

"Why is Starcraft 2 so much more deathball-y than Brood War?" ----> "we believe having to micro armies and their positioning correctly to win major battles is a good thing"

...okay?



"We believe armies as a whole are easier to move around and control because of the better pathing and unlimited unit selection."

stop being stupid.


Question: Why is Starcraft 2 so much more deathball-y than Brood War?

Not how.
Then he goes on to talk about the difference between Wings and HoTS, and finishes with "The end goal in this area in our opinion is not to get rid of mass army vs. mass army scenarios, but more so to have a lot of action, a lot of harassment opportunities, and have each game feeling different." - a platitude tenously related to the BW/SC2 comparison...

Like people have been saying, born politician.
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Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
February 05 2014 23:04 GMT
#46
Someone actually asked about the balance in ZvZ mirror matchup? Dear lord..
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10099 Posts
February 05 2014 23:07 GMT
#47
so it looks like they will nerf the Raven...
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Drigger
Profile Joined November 2011
254 Posts
February 05 2014 23:08 GMT
#48
Aaaand its over.
Disappointing.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
February 05 2014 23:08 GMT
#49
On February 06 2014 08:03 ElMeanYo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 07:58 Squat wrote:
That man sure knows how to use a lot words without actually saying anything. He should go into politics.


Because if you actually go into any specifics when talking to the community, you get burned later.

That's what he's paid for. If you don't like the heat, get out of the fucking kitchen. If you are a lead designer on a game like SC2, you have to be ready to catch some flak.

At least give us the basic respect of being honest, if your answer is "no we like everything about the game the way it is and will never change forcefields and symmetrical economies and all the other shit people have be berating us about since WoL beta", then fine. At least then we'll know and those who feel that it's a deal breaker can go play Dota or cricket or something instead. I disagree with him on just about every single design decision about the game, but all that is subjective bullshit anyway, there is no right or wrong. Just have enough spine to represent what you actually want for the game.

"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 23:09:03
February 05 2014 23:08 GMT
#50
What a HUGE disappointment by mr. Kim. "LOL let's pretend we care because 8 pages of questions resemble the community's will"
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
February 05 2014 23:09 GMT
#51
His stance on Warpgates and Forcefields is good I think, they get a lot of criticism but I wouldn't want them gone, they bring more positive than negative imo.
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
February 05 2014 23:10 GMT
#52
Given the answers given I feel it had actually been better if he had not spoken at all :/
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
Meerel
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany713 Posts
February 05 2014 23:10 GMT
#53
well i dont really see sc2 going anywhere with this guy beeing in charge. ~~
SDMF
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 05 2014 23:10 GMT
#54
Ah too bad I didn't hear about this sooner.
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Autotroph
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom940 Posts
February 05 2014 23:11 GMT
#55
On February 06 2014 08:08 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 08:03 ElMeanYo wrote:
On February 06 2014 07:58 Squat wrote:
That man sure knows how to use a lot words without actually saying anything. He should go into politics.


Because if you actually go into any specifics when talking to the community, you get burned later.

That's what he's paid for... Just have enough spine to represent what you actually want for the game.



Word up.
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ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
February 05 2014 23:11 GMT
#56
On February 06 2014 08:08 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 08:03 ElMeanYo wrote:
On February 06 2014 07:58 Squat wrote:
That man sure knows how to use a lot words without actually saying anything. He should go into politics.


Because if you actually go into any specifics when talking to the community, you get burned later.

That's what he's paid for. If you don't like the heat, get out of the fucking kitchen. If you are a lead designer on a game like SC2, you have to be ready to catch some flak.

At least give us the basic respect of being honest, if your answer is "no we like everything about the game the way it is and will never change forcefields and symmetrical economies and all the other shit people have be berating us about since WoL beta", then fine. At least then we'll know and those who feel that it's a deal breaker can go play Dota or cricket or something instead. I disagree with him on just about every single design decision about the game, but all that is subjective bullshit anyway, there is no right or wrong. Just have enough spine to represent what you actually want for the game.



We don't really know what he's paid for. Maybe hes paid to deliver vague, flowery rhetoric without committing to anything because SC2 has little budget right now and he has to keep the masses at bay.
“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
Firkraag8
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1006 Posts
February 05 2014 23:12 GMT
#57
On February 06 2014 08:08 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 08:03 ElMeanYo wrote:
On February 06 2014 07:58 Squat wrote:
That man sure knows how to use a lot words without actually saying anything. He should go into politics.


Because if you actually go into any specifics when talking to the community, you get burned later.

That's what he's paid for. If you don't like the heat, get out of the fucking kitchen. If you are a lead designer on a game like SC2, you have to be ready to catch some flak.

At least give us the basic respect of being honest, if your answer is "no we like everything about the game the way it is and will never change forcefields and symmetrical economies and all the other shit people have be berating us about since WoL beta", then fine. At least then we'll know and those who feel that it's a deal breaker can go play Dota or cricket or something instead. I disagree with him on just about every single design decision about the game, but all that is subjective bullshit anyway, there is no right or wrong. Just have enough spine to represent what you actually want for the game.



You mean like this?:

"We feel Warp Gates are very race defining for Protoss. It's a completely different way to produce units. Because we want every race to feel unique and asymmetric, we like the design of Warp Gates."
Too weird to live, too rare to die.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 05 2014 23:12 GMT
#58
So, regarding TvP:

- He expects the current patch to help against blink all-ins (but he's ready to consider more changes)
- Mech is being played against P in Korea (?!?)

Regarding TvZ:

- They are thinking about nerfing ravens.
- They think tank is now very good in the MU.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
February 05 2014 23:12 GMT
#59
Maaaan, I was too late to ask him when will they release a broodlord burrow upgrade followed by a broodlord zergling-like move speed while burrowed upgrade.

+ Show Spoiler +
Any second now.
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
February 05 2014 23:12 GMT
#60
And question time is over.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
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