EPTTL recruiting SC2 writers (again!) - Page 2
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XXTN
United States124 Posts
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:26 istandwithmitt wrote: Well I guess we know where TL places its values. The writers producing content for the community are volunteers while TL makes money from the hits they're providing via advertising. Seems fair. That's how you build a real fucking community and not the fan base people call community right now. With dedication and not always expecting something back. I never concidered myself a good enough writer to apply, but I thanks every single one of you who do it for free, because without that, TeamLiquid wouldn't still be here, years after. | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:38 XXTN wrote: is there a deadline for applications? Can u write backwards?:-) | ||
The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:38 XXTN wrote: is there a deadline for applications?
what? | ||
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istandwithmitt
Brazil117 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:29 Faust852 wrote: Yeh, how dare they use ad to pay servers costs for such a big forum/website. TL maintains two fairly large & star-studded esports team. Obviously there's money. This is just the most embarrassing & novice part of esports that the community is exploited because it's the cheapest option. Any legitimate sport or business would pay its writers because their work deserves pay and because their work is used to generate revenue. TL is taking advantage of the enthusiasm of people to avoid shilling out any money to the people that make it run. | ||
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:43 istandwithmitt wrote: TL maintains two fairly large & star-studded esports team. Obviously there's money. This is just the most embarrassing & novice part of esports that the community is exploited because it's the cheapest option. Any legitimate sport or business would pay its writers because their work deserves pay and because their work is used to generate revenue. TL is taking advantage of the enthusiasm of people to avoid shilling out any money to the people that make it run. it feels like everytime applications goes up someone has to bring up this conversation | ||
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RouaF
France4121 Posts
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TLWINDRUNNER
36 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37124 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:45 NovemberstOrm wrote: it feels like everytime applications goes up someone has to bring up this conversation Welcome to TL. At least once a year, something that was buried once, always comes back up to haunt us. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
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istandwithmitt
Brazil117 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:45 NovemberstOrm wrote: it feels like everytime applications goes up someone has to bring up this conversation It's because it's an embarrassment to the community, the scene, & the idea of esports. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:43 istandwithmitt wrote: TL maintains two fairly large & star-studded esports team. Obviously there's money. This is just the most embarrassing & novice part of esports that the community is exploited because it's the cheapest option. Any legitimate sport or business would pay its writers because their work deserves pay and because their work is used to generate revenue. TL is taking advantage of the enthusiasm of people to avoid shilling out any money to the people that make it run. I guarantee you those sports and businesses would not pay their employees if they weren't legally obligated. A friend of my brother works at an internship. In Canada, interns cannot legally be paid below minimum wage, but this friend is paid less regardless (don't ask me why he doesn't leave). People don't pay their employees because it's the responsible and honest thing to do, they do it because they literally don't have a choice. If TL can get volunteers, they're going to take them. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:48 Seeker wrote: Welcome to TL. At least once a year, something that was buried once, comes back up to haunt us. Brb bumping 'Elephant in the Room' | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On December 11 2013 08:55 Waxangel wrote: The theme of your article is entirely up to you, but please avoid excessive hero worship. How did TL have any writers during MVP/Clide era of GSL? All the articles did was hero worship those two! | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:48 istandwithmitt wrote: It's because it's an embarrassment to the community, the scene, & the idea of esports. I guess we as a community should shut this operation down since this is a democratic corporation and we all get a say in who does what and how money is distributed. Oh wait... | ||
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:48 istandwithmitt wrote: It's because it's an embarrassment to the community, the scene, & the idea of esports. something you have to realize is that because esports is so young not every job is paid in fact 90% of jobs in esports are probably not paid positions, TL is no different, people do this because they love the game in the hopes that one day people who do this work can be paid. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:48 istandwithmitt wrote: It's because it's an embarrassment to the community, the scene, & the idea of esports. IMO you get a higher quality of output. Salaried sports writers frequently put out absolute fucking trash just to sell papers, because it's what's expected of them by those who pay their wages. You don't have to get paid to do something you enjoy as a hobby or an aside. Plenty of musicians do it because they enjoy doing it and contributing to their own little niche community. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
As for istandwithmitt it's always been this way since day 1. Only reason you bitch and moan is because it's expanded from a community website. In either case hopefully we find a few good chaps. If you're still in high school and want something for your resume. This is a good starting point. On December 11 2013 09:51 NovemberstOrm wrote: something you have to realize is that because esports is so young not every job is paid in fact 90% of jobs in esports are probably not paid positions, TL is no different, people do this because they love the game in the hopes that one day people who do this work can be paid. yep, there are a lot of volunteers who don't get crap. welcome to the wonderful world of esports and reality. | ||
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istandwithmitt
Brazil117 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:51 NovemberstOrm wrote: something you have to realize is that because esports is so young not every job is paid in fact 90% of jobs in esports are probably not paid positions, TL is no different, people do this because they love the game in the hopes that one day people who do this work can be paid. So because most esports positions are unpaid they all should be? What are you trying to say? TL obviously has money: they maintain SC2 & Dota2 teams yet they can't afford to pay their writers anything? | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On December 11 2013 09:43 istandwithmitt wrote: TL maintains two fairly large & star-studded esports team. Obviously there's money. This is just the most embarrassing & novice part of esports that the community is exploited because it's the cheapest option. Any legitimate sport or business would pay its writers because their work deserves pay and because their work is used to generate revenue. TL is taking advantage of the enthusiasm of people to avoid shilling out any money to the people that make it run. The team revenue is mostly separate from the site and provided more by the sponsors than the ads. The money the site makes is used to maintain the site and pay the full-time employees working out of the TL office. | ||
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