On August 16 2013 03:47 Fjodorov wrote: alot of "news" about peoples visa issues. Just let us know when its final instead of having these visa progress news.
Or how about this:
Don't read the thread if you don't care. Let the people who do care read it.
Start a thread about it somewhere but is it really news? Just a lot of ppl speculating about the progress of jims visa. And also alot of misinformation because the "news" has to be up 2 sec after reading a tweet or whatever.
Please. Did you see the question mark on the title?????? Ofc its a speculation thread. Thats why the "?". And thats why its already known whats up.
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
You don't book anything with the possibility... you book ASSUMING you're going. Give them all the necessary information assuming you're going. Just like you booking for a vacation.. you always know there's a possibility something might happen last minute but you always book assuming you're going...
And here's the problem, Jim's manager is working day and night SINCE he qualified... should've been working at it since ro8. Figuring out the requirements of the visa such as parental issues. Not knowing the requirements of the visa before applying is incompetence.
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
You don't book anything with the possibility... you book ASSUMING you're going. Give them all the necessary information assuming you're going. Just like you booking for a vacation.. you always know there's a possibility something might happen last minute but you always book assuming you're going...
And here's the problem, Jim's manager is working day and night SINCE he qualified... should've been working at it since ro8. Figuring out the requirements of the visa such as parental issues. Not knowing the requirements of the visa before applying is incompetence.
Except visas don't work like that. If it's not confirmed that you're going, you don't get a visa. Simple as that.
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
You don't book anything with the possibility... you book ASSUMING you're going. Give them all the necessary information assuming you're going. Just like you booking for a vacation.. you always know there's a possibility something might happen last minute but you always book assuming you're going...
And here's the problem, Jim's manager is working day and night SINCE he qualified... should've been working at it since ro8. Figuring out the requirements of the visa such as parental issues. Not knowing the requirements of the visa before applying is incompetence.
Except visas don't work like that. If it's not confirmed that you're going, you don't get a visa. Simple as that.
A lot of people who know nothing about how visas work, like talking about them pretending they know how it works. I learned that from the last jim/macsed visa thread.
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
You don't book anything with the possibility... you book ASSUMING you're going. Give them all the necessary information assuming you're going. Just like you booking for a vacation.. you always know there's a possibility something might happen last minute but you always book assuming you're going...
And here's the problem, Jim's manager is working day and night SINCE he qualified... should've been working at it since ro8. Figuring out the requirements of the visa such as parental issues. Not knowing the requirements of the visa before applying is incompetence.
You need a written invitation letter from ESL to apply for Visa, as it's a work Visa and not some travel Visa you can just get by drop by and pay the money. Obviously they wouldn't have that beforehand.
This is some of the documents you need to apply for business Visa in Germany:
Evidence of occupation: An original and recent signed letter from your UK employer, on official letterhead, stating: How long you have been employed with the company, the kind of business and duration of the business trip(s) and (if applicable) a guarantee for the costs including the travel health insurance (see below) and return tickets.If you are self-employed, a letter from a solicitor/accountant verifying your self-employment
Invitation: A recent and signed formal invitation by fax (showing fax transmission details), or original by post, on official company letterhead from your business partner in Germany stating the kind of business, duration of the business trip(s) and a confirmation of guarantee for the costs of the stay, if applicable. If presenting at a conference, invitation letter should indicate this also.
Return tickets: to and from Schengen region Must be confirmed and in applicant’s name Can include: flight, train, coach or ferry
Obviously it's impossible to get any of those before Jim receive his spot.
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
You don't book anything with the possibility... you book ASSUMING you're going. Give them all the necessary information assuming you're going. Just like you booking for a vacation.. you always know there's a possibility something might happen last minute but you always book assuming you're going...
And here's the problem, Jim's manager is working day and night SINCE he qualified... should've been working at it since ro8. Figuring out the requirements of the visa such as parental issues. Not knowing the requirements of the visa before applying is incompetence.
Except visas don't work like that. If it's not confirmed that you're going, you don't get a visa. Simple as that.
They ask for your documentation, which usually includes flight number, destination, hotel reservation and what you're doing there. Depending on the type of visa, they will also ask you to provide a reference who is currently at the destination to verify the information. None of those are hard to provide....
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
You don't book anything with the possibility... you book ASSUMING you're going. Give them all the necessary information assuming you're going. Just like you booking for a vacation.. you always know there's a possibility something might happen last minute but you always book assuming you're going...
And here's the problem, Jim's manager is working day and night SINCE he qualified... should've been working at it since ro8. Figuring out the requirements of the visa such as parental issues. Not knowing the requirements of the visa before applying is incompetence.
You need a written invitation letter from ESL to apply for Visa, as it's a work Visa and not some travel Visa you can just get by drop by and pay the money. Obviously they wouldn't have that beforehand.
Pretty sure he's not applying for a work visa because he's not gonna stay there for more than a week....
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
You don't book anything with the possibility... you book ASSUMING you're going. Give them all the necessary information assuming you're going. Just like you booking for a vacation.. you always know there's a possibility something might happen last minute but you always book assuming you're going...
And here's the problem, Jim's manager is working day and night SINCE he qualified... should've been working at it since ro8. Figuring out the requirements of the visa such as parental issues. Not knowing the requirements of the visa before applying is incompetence.
Except visas don't work like that. If it's not confirmed that you're going, you don't get a visa. Simple as that.
They ask for your documentation, which usually includes flight number, destination, hotel reservation and what you're doing there. Depending on the type of visa, they will also ask you to provide a reference who is currently at the destination to verify the information. None of those are hard to provide....
So if he hadn't be confirmed as coming to Cologne yet, how could he or his manager have gotten any of that information from the get go like you're insinuating?
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
You don't book anything with the possibility... you book ASSUMING you're going. Give them all the necessary information assuming you're going. Just like you booking for a vacation.. you always know there's a possibility something might happen last minute but you always book assuming you're going...
And here's the problem, Jim's manager is working day and night SINCE he qualified... should've been working at it since ro8. Figuring out the requirements of the visa such as parental issues. Not knowing the requirements of the visa before applying is incompetence.
You need a written invitation letter from ESL to apply for Visa, as it's a work Visa and not some travel Visa you can just get by drop by and pay the money. Obviously they wouldn't have that beforehand.
Pretty sure he's not applying for a work visa because he's not gonna stay there for more than a week....
He is getting paid, so he has to apply for work visa.
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
You don't book anything with the possibility... you book ASSUMING you're going. Give them all the necessary information assuming you're going. Just like you booking for a vacation.. you always know there's a possibility something might happen last minute but you always book assuming you're going...
And here's the problem, Jim's manager is working day and night SINCE he qualified... should've been working at it since ro8. Figuring out the requirements of the visa such as parental issues. Not knowing the requirements of the visa before applying is incompetence.
Except visas don't work like that. If it's not confirmed that you're going, you don't get a visa. Simple as that.
They ask for your documentation, which usually includes flight number, destination, hotel reservation and what you're doing there. Depending on the type of visa, they will also ask you to provide a reference who is currently at the destination to verify the information. None of those are hard to provide....
So if he hadn't be confirmed as coming to Cologne yet, how could he or his manager have gotten any of that information from the get go like you're insinuating?
This is an event... his manager should already be contacting organizers on making the necessary arrangements...
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
You don't book anything with the possibility... you book ASSUMING you're going. Give them all the necessary information assuming you're going. Just like you booking for a vacation.. you always know there's a possibility something might happen last minute but you always book assuming you're going...
And here's the problem, Jim's manager is working day and night SINCE he qualified... should've been working at it since ro8. Figuring out the requirements of the visa such as parental issues. Not knowing the requirements of the visa before applying is incompetence.
You need a written invitation letter from ESL to apply for Visa, as it's a work Visa and not some travel Visa you can just get by drop by and pay the money. Obviously they wouldn't have that beforehand.
Pretty sure he's not applying for a work visa because he's not gonna stay there for more than a week....
He is getting paid, so he has to apply for work visa.
I'm not familiar with how the payment of tournament organizers work... but are they paying him cash? Isn't the event hosted by Blizzard so the payment will actually go through Blizzard which is most likely through Blizzard channels which isn't in germany? And let's be honest, no government will give "working visas" to a foreigner for a week. Just recently I believe the first working visa was issued to a LoL player to stay in US.
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
You don't book anything with the possibility... you book ASSUMING you're going. Give them all the necessary information assuming you're going. Just like you booking for a vacation.. you always know there's a possibility something might happen last minute but you always book assuming you're going...
And here's the problem, Jim's manager is working day and night SINCE he qualified... should've been working at it since ro8. Figuring out the requirements of the visa such as parental issues. Not knowing the requirements of the visa before applying is incompetence.
Except visas don't work like that. If it's not confirmed that you're going, you don't get a visa. Simple as that.
They ask for your documentation, which usually includes flight number, destination, hotel reservation and what you're doing there. Depending on the type of visa, they will also ask you to provide a reference who is currently at the destination to verify the information. None of those are hard to provide....
So if he hadn't be confirmed as coming to Cologne yet, how could he or his manager have gotten any of that information from the get go like you're insinuating?
This is an event... his manager should already be contacting organizers on making the necessary arrangements...
But nothing was confirmed... There's no confirmation that he would have made the RO8, and ESL isn't just going to give him a letter saying he's coming if he's not...
there was some stuff he needed for the visa that he could have gotten well before he even went to the USA, including the letter from his mother, his identity cards, visa applications, etc. they shouldnt be scrambling for those, but based on a previous post it appears they are. that is unreasonable.
there was some stuff he could have gotten before he went to the USA, but its not unreasonable to say he shouldnt have gotten because of the cost: the plane ticket. this is the most controversial part i expect.
there was some stuff he couldn't have gotten before he went to the USA, and the fact that he doesnt have them was at no fault of his own: the ESL invitation letter.
i dont think anybody is arguing he should have applied for a visa before he went to the USA, but he should have at least prepared the first set of information (and, some may argue, the plane ticket).
On August 16 2013 04:09 eScaper-tsunami wrote: Pretty sure he's not applying for a work visa because he's not gonna stay there for more than a week....
Getting a tourist visa for paid work (since he is attending the tourney and gets paid for it by Blizz and his team) is the best way to get one visa and then never again.
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
Beat me to it. You have to have a purpose and destination to get a Visa, you can't just say "I might need one, can I have one ples"
Yeah but you can contact the office, say I'm a professional gamer playing in WCS, if I hit top 5 I'll qualify for season world finals held in Germany. By doing so, the host of the tournament will issue an invitation, which I'll then provide you with to get working visa that will allow me to earn money in the said tournament. Can you tell me if there might be some issues if I provide you with all the required documents? Done and done.
It's call planning ahead, you should try it one day.
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
You don't book anything with the possibility... you book ASSUMING you're going. Give them all the necessary information assuming you're going. Just like you booking for a vacation.. you always know there's a possibility something might happen last minute but you always book assuming you're going...
And here's the problem, Jim's manager is working day and night SINCE he qualified... should've been working at it since ro8. Figuring out the requirements of the visa such as parental issues. Not knowing the requirements of the visa before applying is incompetence.
Except visas don't work like that. If it's not confirmed that you're going, you don't get a visa. Simple as that.
They ask for your documentation, which usually includes flight number, destination, hotel reservation and what you're doing there. Depending on the type of visa, they will also ask you to provide a reference who is currently at the destination to verify the information. None of those are hard to provide....
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
You don't book anything with the possibility... you book ASSUMING you're going. Give them all the necessary information assuming you're going. Just like you booking for a vacation.. you always know there's a possibility something might happen last minute but you always book assuming you're going...
And here's the problem, Jim's manager is working day and night SINCE he qualified... should've been working at it since ro8. Figuring out the requirements of the visa such as parental issues. Not knowing the requirements of the visa before applying is incompetence.
You need a written invitation letter from ESL to apply for Visa, as it's a work Visa and not some travel Visa you can just get by drop by and pay the money. Obviously they wouldn't have that beforehand.
Pretty sure he's not applying for a work visa because he's not gonna stay there for more than a week....
You couldn't be more wrong about everything you've posted in this thread, quit spewing your non sense.
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
You don't book anything with the possibility... you book ASSUMING you're going. Give them all the necessary information assuming you're going. Just like you booking for a vacation.. you always know there's a possibility something might happen last minute but you always book assuming you're going...
And here's the problem, Jim's manager is working day and night SINCE he qualified... should've been working at it since ro8. Figuring out the requirements of the visa such as parental issues. Not knowing the requirements of the visa before applying is incompetence.
Except visas don't work like that. If it's not confirmed that you're going, you don't get a visa. Simple as that.
They ask for your documentation, which usually includes flight number, destination, hotel reservation and what you're doing there. Depending on the type of visa, they will also ask you to provide a reference who is currently at the destination to verify the information. None of those are hard to provide....
So if he hadn't be confirmed as coming to Cologne yet, how could he or his manager have gotten any of that information from the get go like you're insinuating?
This is an event... his manager should already be contacting organizers on making the necessary arrangements...
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
You don't book anything with the possibility... you book ASSUMING you're going. Give them all the necessary information assuming you're going. Just like you booking for a vacation.. you always know there's a possibility something might happen last minute but you always book assuming you're going...
And here's the problem, Jim's manager is working day and night SINCE he qualified... should've been working at it since ro8. Figuring out the requirements of the visa such as parental issues. Not knowing the requirements of the visa before applying is incompetence.
You need a written invitation letter from ESL to apply for Visa, as it's a work Visa and not some travel Visa you can just get by drop by and pay the money. Obviously they wouldn't have that beforehand.
Pretty sure he's not applying for a work visa because he's not gonna stay there for more than a week....
He is getting paid, so he has to apply for work visa.
I'm not familiar with how the payment of tournament organizers work... but are they paying him cash? Isn't the event hosted by Blizzard so the payment will actually go through Blizzard which is most likely through Blizzard channels which isn't in germany? And let's be honest, no government will give "working visas" to a foreigner for a week. Just recently I believe the first working visa was issued to a LoL player to stay in US.
Actually all governments give work visas to a foreigner for a week. Jim just got work Visa for US. In fact, you don't have to get paid to be required to get a work Visa. For US, you will need a business Visa to simply attend conferences.
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
Beat me to it. You have to have a purpose and destination to get a Visa, you can't just say "I might need one, can I have one ples"
Yeah but you can contact the office, say I'm a professional gamer playing in WCS, if I hit top 5 I'll qualify for season world finals held in Germany. By doing so, the host of the tournament will issue an invitation, which I'll then provide you with to get working visa that will allow me to earn money in the said tournament. Can you tell me if there might be some issues if I provide you with all the required documents? Done and done.
It's call planning ahead, you should try it one day.
You are assuming consulate are understanding and cooperative, which means you never tried apply for a non-travel Visa (really easy to get as long as you have money... because they want your money).
Usually they tell you to show up for appointment and hang up.
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
Beat me to it. You have to have a purpose and destination to get a Visa, you can't just say "I might need one, can I have one ples"
Yeah but you can contact the office, say I'm a professional gamer playing in WCS, if I hit top 5 I'll qualify for season world finals held in Germany. By doing so, the host of the tournament will issue an invitation, which I'll then provide you with to get working visa that will allow me to earn money in the said tournament. Can you tell me if there might be some issues if I provide you with all the required documents? Done and done.
It's call planning ahead, you should try it one day.
hahaha this will never happen ever. maybe if you want to go to sealand.
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan?
Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities.
And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing.
You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen
Beat me to it. You have to have a purpose and destination to get a Visa, you can't just say "I might need one, can I have one ples"
Yeah but you can contact the office, say I'm a professional gamer playing in WCS, if I hit top 5 I'll qualify for season world finals held in Germany. By doing so, the host of the tournament will issue an invitation, which I'll then provide you with to get working visa that will allow me to earn money in the said tournament. Can you tell me if there might be some issues if I provide you with all the required documents? Done and done.
It's call planning ahead, you should try it one day.
hahaha this will never happen ever. maybe if you want to go to sealand.
He seems to think planning ahead will make governments cooperate quickly.
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