EPTOn August 16 2013 03:09 TXRaunchy wrote:
Why can't get just get the next WCS AM ranked person to play?
Why can't get just get the next WCS AM ranked person to play?
And that person still need a visa.
[Updated] Jim facing visa issues for Season II Finals? - P…
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jalen
Australia222 Posts
And that person still need a visa. | ||
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dignitasDreAm
China43 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan? Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities. And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing. Don't you need to actually book the travel/plan to book the travel to get visa? I remember reading that somewhere. Not sure what the specifications are, but I don't think it's as simple as getting a visa for a trip you aren't sure you are making yet. | ||
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jalen
Australia222 Posts
On August 16 2013 03:11 ragz_gt wrote: How can that be last minute? As Jim just got his spot a couple days ago. Do they have to hire fortune teller as well now? They need time to fly back to China, and also make an appointment is not booking a Hotel, need some time. | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On August 16 2013 03:16 jalen wrote: They need time to fly back to China, and also make an appointment is not booking a Hotel, need some time. That's what I meant. It's ridiculous to claim they waited until last minute when it's actually the first minute. On August 16 2013 03:15 Pokebunny wrote: Don't you need to actually book the travel/plan to book the travel to get visa? I remember reading that somewhere. Not sure what the specifications are, but I don't think it's as simple as getting a visa for a trip you aren't sure you are making yet. That's the case for US visa, not sure about Germany. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On August 16 2013 03:11 ragz_gt wrote: How can that be last minute? As Jim just got his spot a couple days ago. Do they have to hire fortune teller as well now? you think its reasonable for them not to even bother looking at the visa requirements (assuming thats what happened) when they know there is a chance that he could be going to europe? its a pretty lame excuse to say they shouldnt figure out visa issues until the last minute just because there is a chance he might not go. | ||
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BrieFanFiction
United States167 Posts
On August 16 2013 03:15 Pokebunny wrote: Don't you need to actually book the travel/plan to book the travel to get visa? I remember reading that somewhere. Not sure what the specifications are, but I don't think it's as simple as getting a visa for a trip you aren't sure you are making yet. Pokebunny, yes. You don't just say "Hey, I might place top 5 in this tournament and if I do I'll be invited to a tournament in your country (Germany). So go ahead and approve me for the visa now without knowing if I'm even coming to Germany or not." It doesn't work that way. If they granted him the visa and he lost, he could have been let into Germany for a reason that no longer exists. Also, as for getting a visa in 1 week: Good *bleeping* luck A lot of the responsibility falls onto the tournaments for having events in one country one week and then another country the next week. They are just asking for visa issues with scheduling like this. There is also a remote possibility that Jim has a minor (and I say minor because he would not have been let into the US if it were serious) criminal record in China and this is holding him up. Do not say "There's a rumor that Jim has a criminal record!" because I am not saying that he has one; I am just offering it as a less likely reason for his visa problems. | ||
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Yello
Germany7411 Posts
actually people from a lot of countries don't need a Visa to visit Germany. All of the EU, North America, most South American countries and some African countries and Japan and Korea don't need a Visa to visit the EU for up to 90 days. China is one of the exceptions so sadly this is a problem for Jim. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_in_the_European_Union#Schengen_Area.2C_Bulgaria.2C_Croatia.2C_Cyprus_and_Romania | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On August 16 2013 03:19 dAPhREAk wrote: you think its reasonable for them not to even bother looking at the visa requirements (assuming thats what happened) when they know there is a chance that he could be going to europe? its a pretty lame excuse to say they shouldnt figure out visa issues until the last minute just because there is a chance he might not go. They also just sorted out their US visa problem less than 48 hr before hopping on a flight and spending a few days in a foreign country. On August 16 2013 03:21 BrieFanFiction wrote: Pokebunny, yes. You don't just say "Hey, I might place top 5 in this tournament and if I do I'll be invited to a tournament in your country (Germany). So go ahead and approve me for the visa now without knowing if I'm even coming to Germany or not." It doesn't work that way. If they granted him the visa and he lost, he could have been let into Germany for a reason that no longer exists. Also, as for getting a visa in 1 week: Good *bleeping* luck A lot of the responsibility falls onto the tournaments for having events in one country one week and then another country the next week. They are just asking for visa issues with scheduling like this. There is also a remote possibility that Jim has a minor (and I say minor because he would not have been let into the US if it were serious) criminal record in China and this is holding him up. Do not say "There's a rumor that Jim has a criminal record!" because I am not saying that he has one; I am just offering it as a less likely reason for his visa problems. A bigger issue than plane ticket is that since he will be earning money, he needs a work visa, and will need an invitation letter from ESL in order to apply for Visa. Obviously he has no way of getting that beforehand. On August 16 2013 03:21 Yello wrote: actually people from a lot of countries don't need a Visa to visit Germany. All of the EU, North America, most South American countries and some African countries and Japan and Korea don't need a Visa to visit the EU for up to 90 days. China is one of the exceptions so sadly this is a problem for Jim. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_in_the_European_Union#Schengen_Area.2C_Bulgaria.2C_Croatia.2C_Cyprus_and_Romania Visa free visit doesn't mean he can work (which winning tournament prize count as) in said country though, so it's trickier still. | ||
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Devise
Canada1131 Posts
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jalen
Australia222 Posts
On August 16 2013 03:21 Yello wrote: actually people from a lot of countries don't need a Visa to visit Germany. All of the EU, North America, most South American countries and some African countries and Japan and Korea don't need a Visa to visit the EU for up to 90 days. China is one of the exceptions so sadly this is a problem for Jim. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_in_the_European_Union#Schengen_Area.2C_Bulgaria.2C_Croatia.2C_Cyprus_and_Romania No, its different story. They are winning money and there is a lot of difference between the visa they applied for and the visa you are trying to say. | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On August 16 2013 03:31 Devise wrote: if he can't get a visa let aLive go, i'm sure EG would let him, he's getting 5k just for going, plus aLive has a good of chance of any of winning So you want to take away Jim's 5000 bucks he is owed even if he forfeit as well? Seriously? | ||
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Yello
Germany7411 Posts
On August 16 2013 03:33 jalen wrote: No, its different story. They are winning money and there is a lot of difference between the visa they applied for and the visa you are trying to say. ah okay, didn't know that this was actually counted as work. Well, I hope they get it sorted out somehow | ||
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Scarlett`
Korea (South)2446 Posts
On August 16 2013 02:16 eScaper-tsunami wrote: I really don't understand why players who made it to Ro8 in their respective region wouldn't apply for all their necessary visas (regional and seasonal) Is it that hard to have a backup plan? Even if you don't qualify for seasonal finals, if players like Jim fail hard at preparing ahead, then the next ranking player may be suitable to replace Jim because they did plan ahead. You can't have a successful career if you don't plan ahead and capitalize on these opportunities. And what blows my mind is Jim has a coach/manager who really should've known how long it would take to apply for visas and I'm sure that visa's cost is a lot less than $5000. Being critical here, but whoever is managing Jim has no idea what he's doing. You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen | ||
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Fjodorov
5007 Posts
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Taipoka
Brazil1224 Posts
On August 16 2013 02:54 Boucot wrote: Gogo Jim's mom ! Haha one of the best posts ever. Gogo Jim´s mom, burn burn burn | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 16 2013 03:47 Fjodorov wrote: alot of "news" about peoples visa issues. Just let us know when its final instead of having these visa progress news. Or how about this: Don't read the thread if you don't care. Let the people who do care read it.  | ||
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Fjodorov
5007 Posts
On August 16 2013 03:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Or how about this: Don't read the thread if you don't care. Let the people who do care read it. Start a thread about it somewhere but is it really news? Just a lot of ppl speculating about the progress of jims visa. And also alot of misinformation because the "news" has to be up 2 sec after reading a tweet or whatever. | ||
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
On August 16 2013 03:45 Acer.Scarlett` wrote: You can't get a visa on the possibility to go ~ Jim is the only player who actually needs to get a visa to go to germany (all others just get temporary waivers due to the countries they are from) and his manager has been working day and night since he qualified for the season finals to make it happen Beat me to it. You have to have a purpose and destination to get a Visa, you can't just say "I might need one, can I have one ples" | ||
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