EPT[Updated] Jim facing visa issues for Season II Finals? - P…
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ThreeSixDrew
Canada183 Posts
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Osiccor
Canada128 Posts
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
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ragz_gt
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On August 16 2013 05:25 ThreeSixDrew wrote: Pathetic is the only word that comes to mind - on so many levels. I guess the brightside is maybe scarlett is more likely to go through. On August 16 2013 05:41 Osiccor wrote: Does Jim still gets those 500 WCS points? You guys... he can still get the Visa, don't kill him off yet please  | ||
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Tao367
United Kingdom324 Posts
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zxdyn
United States23 Posts
According to Chinese forums, JIM will see the ambassador next Monday. How could you know he won't make it before that? | ||
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Nyarly
France1030 Posts
It has nothing to do with germany or usa, i know it's a commonly accepted thing nowadays, but i still find it sad. | ||
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iyasq8
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Blargh
United States2102 Posts
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kawaiiryuko
United States368 Posts
On August 16 2013 04:23 ragz_gt wrote: Actually all governments give work visas to a foreigner for a week. Jim just got work Visa for US. In fact, you don't have to get paid to be required to get a work Visa. For US, you will need a business Visa to simply attend conferences. Governments give out "work visas" all the time. It is actually a requirement that if you will be doing work (i.e.: attend business meetings, regardless of whether or not you get cash in hand at the meeting), you must get a work/business visa (especially for China, who are very prickly - I worked for a news organization in a non-reporter role once and even though I wasn't going for news-gathering, as soon as they saw who I was employed by, I had a lot of hoops to jump through to get a visa). I think iG's management has been handling this well enough, given the circumstances. As soon as they knew he was going, they appear to have been trying to sort out all of the issues. That said, maybe it is worthwhile to just have Jim's mom prepare a few more notary letters, for his future visa applications.  Then they don't have to bug her all the time, and they can just grab one and go. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
Visa issues won't just go away either so it will be interesting if Blizz does anything or just hopes the guys who have them stop being good. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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BrieFanFiction
United States167 Posts
On August 16 2013 06:39 Nyarly wrote: Am i the only one who find it sad that humans from one side of the planet have to ask for the permission to go to the other side of the planet ? It has nothing to do with germany or usa, i know it's a commonly accepted thing nowadays, but i still find it sad. No, you're not. The issue with boundaries and visas and all that BS make government's seem like a corporation, and the tax payers the customers. If you want to be provided with services from Germany Inc, you must pay and wait in line. Same for U.S. Inc. It's just so technical and impersonal, completely disregarding the human element. $5,000 is a probably a lot of money to Jim, he lives in fucking China. I promise you there are Germans who want to see Jim play. If Jim doesn't get to play due to a visa issue, then some German people are not being properly served by these visa laws. | ||
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
Edit: It's really not that hard to go to the EU. Usually you don't even need a visa. I think it's just because he's below 18 AND he's from China. Still, it is possible for every other player without problems, so... who's fault is it? Also the whole thing has nothing to do with German law. It's EU law, as there is free travel within most of the EU nowdays. So it's basically the same problem if a Chinese player wants to go to Germany, France, Spain or Sweden... See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On August 16 2013 07:22 Laryleprakon wrote: So sad. Visa issues won't just go away either so it will be interesting if Blizz does anything or just hopes the guys who have them stop being good. It's a Chinese thing - you know communist state and all. EU/NA citizens can fly freely to and from most eSports relevant countries. | ||
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Aiobhill
Germany283 Posts
§ 7 Besondere Berufsgruppen here: http://www.info4alien.de/gesetze/beschv.htm | ||
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eScaper-tsunami
Canada313 Posts
On August 16 2013 07:48 Aiobhill wrote: Strange. Artists, athletes and models are expicitly exempt from normal german Visa legislation as long as their work duration does not exceed certain limits. Can't we fit him in somewhere there? It should fall under § 7 Besondere Berufsgruppen here: http://www.info4alien.de/gesetze/beschv.htm The problem is the government may not see professional gamers as such. AFAIK US just recently approved to something similary to what you've mentioned. http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/07/16/gamers-are-the-new-athletes/ I'm even skeptical that any government would give working visas for any duration to professional gamers. Recognizing exceptionally skilled video game players as skilled and valuable individuals would be great but I don't think the governments are quite there yet. | ||
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Serpest
United States603 Posts
On August 16 2013 06:39 Nyarly wrote: Am i the only one who find it sad that humans from one side of the planet have to ask for the permission to go to the other side of the planet ? It has nothing to do with germany or usa, i know it's a commonly accepted thing nowadays, but i still find it sad. 100 - 200 years ago there was no issue. It's really all to do with how small the world has gotten. Once it was huge and unexplored with no citizenry issues regarding travel. Because only those who could afford it (i.e. were from the proper societal / hierarchical rank) could travel, classes were still kept separate so it was fine because it was people from the same groupings meeting up with different people within those groupings just in different countries. | ||
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