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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
On August 19 2013 13:45 S1eth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 13:39 dAPhREAk wrote:On August 19 2013 13:37 S1eth wrote:On August 19 2013 13:29 jalen wrote:On August 19 2013 13:19 S1eth wrote:On August 19 2013 13:16 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 19 2013 12:36 Thrillz wrote:
Well, the easiest imo now become a group of 3. Alive replaces Jim, it is still group of 4. Even last place (16th) is guaranteed to get $5000 and 500 WCS points. Is it save to assume that this "guaranteed" reward now goes to aLive instead? No, Alive just have a spots, if he eliminated in group, he won't get any points. Well then, does Jim still get the reward? And should aLive win the whole tournament, does he only win $35,000? it says in the op that Jim gets $5,000. havent seen an announcement re alive's winnings. It says "No matter the outcome, Jim will still receive all WCS Points and prize money he earned from his performance in WCS America thus far, including the League Finals." "League Finals" and "Season Finals" could mean 2 different things, as in league = america finals.
You are right, Blizzard uses League Finals to mean the weekend that had WCS AM Ro8 to finals. It is completely separate from the Season Finals at Gamescom.
http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/who-will-win-the-wcs-league-finals
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On August 19 2013 13:45 S1eth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 13:39 dAPhREAk wrote:On August 19 2013 13:37 S1eth wrote:On August 19 2013 13:29 jalen wrote:On August 19 2013 13:19 S1eth wrote:On August 19 2013 13:16 lolfail9001 wrote:On August 19 2013 12:36 Thrillz wrote:
Well, the easiest imo now become a group of 3. Alive replaces Jim, it is still group of 4. Even last place (16th) is guaranteed to get $5000 and 500 WCS points. Is it save to assume that this "guaranteed" reward now goes to aLive instead? No, Alive just have a spots, if he eliminated in group, he won't get any points. Well then, does Jim still get the reward? And should aLive win the whole tournament, does he only win $35,000? it says in the op that Jim gets $5,000. havent seen an announcement re alive's winnings. It says "No matter the outcome, Jim will still receive all WCS Points and prize money he earned from his performance in WCS America thus far, including the League Finals." "League Finals" and "Season Finals" could mean 2 different things, as in league = america finals. And since it also says "Should an invitation be offered to aLive, his acceptance will make him eligible to receive WCS Points and prize money awarded for participating in the Season 2 Finals." I would assume that aLive earns the $5000 (instead of Jim) even if he gets 16th place.
fair enough. i figured the $5000 as already earned money, but maybe its not.
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Looks like we get to see aLive play
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oh boy, *another* Korean representing my region .__.
I hope Jim gets his $5000 and 500 WCS points for qualifying.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 19 2013 13:28 jalen wrote:
Holy ****. Won't see WCS this weekend. Korean vs Korean @ RO8 i believe.
Actually i think Scarlett has a shot at getting into Ro8.
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Blizzard - as the organizer of WCS - should make a "VISA applications for dummies" app or guideline for all the nations it applies to with a handy timeline of how long in advance you need to do X or have document Y for potential participants in their tournament. Apparently it is too hard for the team managers to figure out in the months beforehand and has to be done in a rushed manner every time. *sigh*
There arent that many countries involved in SC2 esports and making a "flowchart" for their VISA application processes should be relatively easy.
- Korea
- USA
- Sweden
- China
- Germany
- Spain
- Russia
- Ukraine
Thats less than 10 countries and it should make VISA application not that hard. In the case of the EU it could even be possible/easier to choose Holland as the country to fly to and then drive to Cologne if the process is easier there than for germany OR if the flight is significantly cheaper/fits the time slots better.
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On August 19 2013 15:51 Rabiator wrote:
Blizzard - as the organizer of WCS - should make a "VISA applications for dummies" app or guideline for all the nations it applies to with a handy timeline of how long in advance you need to do X or have document Y for potential participants in their tournament. Apparently it is too hard for the team managers to figure out in the months beforehand and has to be done in a rushed manner every time. *sigh*
That's not how visas work. It can't be done months beforehand because you need confirmation you will be at the event.
On August 19 2013 15:51 Rabiator wrote:
Thats less than 10 countries and it should make VISA application not that hard. In the case of the EU it could even be possible/easier to choose Holland as the country to fly to and then drive to Cologne if the process is easier there than for germany OR if the flight is significantly cheaper/fits the time slots better.
Every country in the EU is practically the same, that's why you can drive through different countries and not get checked.
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Sad but kinda expected.
Sucks for Jim and the viewers.
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On August 19 2013 16:09 Draconicfire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2013 15:51 Rabiator wrote:
Blizzard - as the organizer of WCS - should make a "VISA applications for dummies" app or guideline for all the nations it applies to with a handy timeline of how long in advance you need to do X or have document Y for potential participants in their tournament. Apparently it is too hard for the team managers to figure out in the months beforehand and has to be done in a rushed manner every time. *sigh* That's not how visas work. It can't be done months beforehand because you need confirmation you will be at the event.
I am not saying that people should get their visa months before, but rather that the people who *might have to* apply for such a document learn what they need to do *when they want to apply* months beforehand. The current situation with Jim was blown out of proportion when someone hit the "panic button" because Jim - who apparently has to do his visa application by himself - didnt have a document which allowed him to travel to europe without his parents. This fact should and could have been know months before and could have been resolved without a headline ... and the fault was Jim's (or more likely his team manager's).
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On August 19 2013 16:09 Draconicfire wrote:
Every country in the EU is practically the same, that's why you can drive through different countries and not get checked.
Of course, all Europeans are the same. It has nothing at all to do with the Shengen Agreement, right?
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It is not difficult to get visas for EU countries, they didn't start to make appointment and prepare everything until Jim actually qualified, although the time is really really limited.
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they should hold the blizzcon at an international airport, no visa issues there, just a bit noisy. Hope Alive doesn't have to much stress from the short notice, but glad I get to see him play.
I hope iG doesn't give up, next season should again be annoying when it comes to visas (they only would need one though), but next year they have a couple of month extra to spread the WCS seasons out.
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China6331 Posts
On August 19 2013 19:22 FeyFey wrote:
they should hold the blizzcon at an international airport, no visa issues there, just a bit noisy. Hope Alive doesn't have to much stress from the short notice, but glad I get to see him play.
I hope iG doesn't give up, next season should again be annoying when it comes to visas (they only would need one though), but next year they have a couple of month extra to spread the WCS seasons out.
Jim and MacSed already have a visa, and WCS S3 finals will be hosted in US so there wont be any visa issues. Unless XY and Top qualifys for RO16 and beyond visas should not be a problem.
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Scotland380 Posts
The season 3 finals are in Canada
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