To mark the halfway point of the Up/Down matches, Jin Air's Pigbaby and MVP's KeeN secured two more spots in upcoming Code S tournament. As in the previous groups, a bit-part Proleague player caused a stir, with Jin Air's (formerly Team 8) PigBaby going 3 - 1 and securing first place in the group.
Tie-breakers ended up being required to determine second place, as KeeN, Avenge, and Ruin would all end the initial round of games tied up at 2 - 2. The frequent Code S participant KeeN proved to be the best player in the tie-breaks, quickly securing two wins over his opponents to take his Code S spot.
Avenge and Ruin now head to the Challenger League, alongside Leenock who finished 1 - 3 in the group.
On August 09 2013 20:54 HououinKyouma wrote: i feel if you are going to mention leenock falling to code a, you might as well mention the rest of the players, ie ruin and avenge.
The reason Leenock is mentioned but Ruin and Avenge aren't is because Leenock is a champion and popular player in the foreign scene. I bet there's thousands of people on TL that don't even know who Avenge and Ruin are...
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote: no nestea award for leenock
sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.
If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.
"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^" - Mr Chae 2013
And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.
Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.
I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.
On August 09 2013 20:54 HououinKyouma wrote: i feel if you are going to mention leenock falling to code a, you might as well mention the rest of the players, ie ruin and avenge.
The reason Leenock is mentioned but Ruin and Avenge aren't is because Leenock is a champion and popular player in the foreign scene. I bet there's thousands of people on TL that don't even know who Avenge and Ruin are...
It's still disrespectful to Ruin and Avenge, I think that's the point he's making.
You can still mention "Leenock, Ruin and Avenge falls to Code A". Just 3 more words. And the name "Leenock" is still in the headline to make it sensational.
Good zergs in code s so far: symbol soulkey and true.... Fuck. I hope at least some of curious/roro/effort/kangho get through
Also bigups to pigbaby, it sucks that he's getting into code s just in time for there to be all those protoss pvp monsters in there, his pvz isso eentertaining
SC2 proscene increasingly feels like coin toss proscene. I am not saying it is that way, probably a professional statistician could prove it's far from random, but it certainly feels that way. And when the outcome of any match whatsoever is (feels like it is) 50/50, I find it hard to find any interest to watch.
Yes the game itself may be beautiful, with nice strategy decisions, good control, amazing harass from both sides, but then X just blindly walks into the "nice conclave" from Y and suddenly loses a game he almost won (from yesterday's WCS EU).
I find it hard to enjoy all the amazing strategy decisions and unit control if they don't matter in a long run, if you can make one mistake and undo everything you did before. Coincidentally that's also why I enjoy "cheese" games way more than so called "macro", when there's a rush everything suddenly matters, you make a mistake you lose, then I enjoy decisions and unit / economy control very much.
I also find it hard to take seriously absolutely any claims of player X being "best in the world" or "Among the elite few" when the very next day they lose to "mediocre" players. To me everyone looks about the same skill level. I mean c'mon, with all the hype behind them, Life and Leenock are now in Code A. Life even managed to lose to foreigners in Dreamhack, not to take anything away from them, but none of them were ever hyped half as much as Life. Yes, jokes of Artosis curse and such are fun once in a while, but ultimately we are here to see top level games from supposedly top level players. If even seasoned casters fail to predict who wins so often, isn't it a coin toss for all intents and purposes?
I don't even know what/who is to blame, a game, a skill ceiling, players, tournament formats, nothing/nobody. I would be genuinely interested in statistical analysis of 2013 tournament results compared to what we'd expect from coin toss tournaments of the same format. Buying a beer to anyone who does it as long as it's valid, professional, scientific
Pigbaby? These guys really manage to find even worse nicknames all the time. I thought Swagger would be an all time low, but I guess I was wrong. At least Keen advanced.
On August 09 2013 23:48 CruelZeratul wrote: Pigbaby? These guys really manage to find even worse nicknames all the time. I thought Swagger would be an all time low, but I guess I was wrong. At least Keen advanced.
Swagger was a least funny, like MVP, but less witty. But PigBaby is a new all time "Good fucking luck with that Artosis," high.
I'm really ready to go back to the old GSL format. Ever since the introduction of WCS the tournaments coming out of Korea are far less exciting. The best players are almost to spread out and I miss seeing them pitted up against eachother. This is of course just my opinion, but it seems like only WCS Europe is actually succeeding in holding a proper WCS tournament. Bring back the REAL code S, it doesn't feel the same anymore.
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote: no nestea award for leenock
sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.
If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.
"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^" - Mr Chae 2013
And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.
Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.
I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.
Blame the WCS system, not Mr Chae. It is the same reason that even tough a ton of eSF players that had code S before are suddenly royal roader contenders.
On August 10 2013 00:17 Mad Scientists wrote: I'm really ready to go back to the old GSL format. Ever since the introduction of WCS the tournaments coming out of Korea are far less exciting. The best players are almost to spread out and I miss seeing them pitted up against eachother. This is of course just my opinion, but it seems like only WCS Europe is actually succeeding in holding a proper WCS tournament. Bring back the REAL code S, it doesn't feel the same anymore.
This. I hardly watch any tournaments at all anymore since WCS was introduced. I check the results, but I watch like 2 or 3 games a month if I randomly see Mvp or Bomber playing. Before WCS I watched as much GSL, GSTL and other Korean tournaments as I possibly could. It just feels weird and boring now. Also Mvp, MC etc not playing in Korea is fucking retarded. But I guess we can't undo it anymore... Well, atleast Keen advanced.
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote: no nestea award for leenock
sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.
If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.
"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^" - Mr Chae 2013
And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.
Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.
I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.
Blame the WCS system, not Mr Chae. It is the same reason that even tough a ton of eSF players that had code S before are suddenly royal roader contenders.
No? It was Chae's decision to make OSL Code S not count. Not WCS system. He could have made OSL count as well and Leenock would've gotten the award.
But w/e Leenock obviously has to do 11 seasons a in row for an award for 10. Because fuck logic
It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.
So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote: no nestea award for leenock
sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.
If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.
"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^" - Mr Chae 2013
And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.
Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.
I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.
Blame the WCS system, not Mr Chae. It is the same reason that even tough a ton of eSF players that had code S before are suddenly royal roader contenders.
No? It was Chae's decision to make OSL Code S not count. Not WCS system. He could have made OSL count as well and Leenock would've gotten the award.
But w/e Leenock obviously has to do 11 seasons a in row for an award for 10. Because fuck logic
Why would OSL count for a GSL reward? It's not like you coulnd't royal road MSL if you had an OSL trophy before that...
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote: It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.
So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )
As if he could control it being Starleague?
And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.
Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote: It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.
So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )
As if he could control it being Starleague?
And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.
Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.
Lol you must be new here. Even back in the Brood War days MSL and OSL (and GOM Classic) were always separate entities. Why would an achievement in an OGN tournament count towards a GOM tournament series title? Hardly reasonable.
And lol @ "SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award." Wow... that line was so edgy you managed to cut me even though we're not in the same country. XDDDDDDD
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote: It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.
So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )
As if he could control it being Starleague?
And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.
Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.
it doesnt change the fact that theyre 2 different tournaments. If the same happened to DRG i would be upset too so i see where youre coming from but it just doesnt make sense
Wait, someone actually called StarLeague Code S? Ehm. On a more serious topic: Leenock did not have to do 11 seasons in a row, he could be in Challenger League and be a contender for Nestea award (just like MKP and DRG). Ofc, i am kinda upset that he did not get it, but we all know what happens once you get Nestea award :D
I don't know whether it's due to esF fanboyism or SC2 old legends fanboyism, but I am surprised people are losing interest in WCS Korea just because MVP, MC, DRG and other 'old legends' aren't playing in them. The fact is, most of them are losing steam and simply not good enough. There is a league of new better players now, from Kespa and from the new generation (Maru, Life, etc.).
If you lose interest in a game just because your favourite players/teams aren't playing (because they suck or don't dominate anymore), then that's just sad for the growth of e-sports.
And all these "faceless Kespa players" BS is frankly disrespectful and not even funny. Just click on their TLPD profile, for Christ's sake - their photo is right there.
On August 10 2013 02:19 RKC wrote: I don't know whether it's due to esF fanboyism or SC2 old legends fanboyism, but I am surprised people are losing interest in WCS Korea just because MVP, MC, DRG and other 'old legends' aren't playing in them. The fact is, most of them are losing steam and simply not good enough. There is a league of new better players now, from Kespa and from the new generation (Maru, Life, etc.).
If you lose interest in a game just because your favourite players/teams aren't playing (because they suck or don't dominate anymore), then that's just sad for the growth of e-sports.
And all these "faceless Kespa players" BS is frankly disrespectful and not even funny. Just click on their TLPD profile, for Christ's sake - their photo is right there.
TL allows attacks on KeSPA players, but not on foreign and original sc2 players. Deal with it!
On August 09 2013 20:43 Noocta wrote: Yeah ! More totally faceless kespa koreans D:
How about doing research yourself so that you can give them a face next time?
You don't know who the fuck Pigbaby? You ought to wake up then because he's a monster. (Directed at Noocta obviously). Some people really don't pay attention to the scene, lol. FYI he was a favorite in that group.
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote: It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.
So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )
As if he could control it being Starleague?
And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.
Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.
Lol you must be new here. Even back in the Brood War days MSL and OSL (and GOM Classic) were always separate entities. Why would an achievement in an OGN tournament count towards a GOM tournament series title? Hardly reasonable.
And lol @ "SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award." Wow... that line was so edgy you managed to cut me even though we're not in the same country. XDDDDDDD
I'm getting tired of it too and it doesn't help when I always thought the term Code S and Code A was stupid. Whomever came up with that idea. This is me giving you the CJ face. -_- At least you guys could have branched it to other sports. You know, it might just help outsiders better understand the complex system instead of going, "what does that even mean?"
On August 09 2013 20:43 Noocta wrote: Yeah ! More totally faceless kespa koreans D:
How about doing research yourself so that you can give them a face next time?
You don't know who the fuck Pigbaby? You ought to wake up then because he's a monster. (Directed at Noocta obviously). Some people really don't pay attention to the scene, lol. FYI he was a favorite in that group.
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote: It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.
So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )
As if he could control it being Starleague?
And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.
Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.
Lol you must be new here. Even back in the Brood War days MSL and OSL (and GOM Classic) were always separate entities. Why would an achievement in an OGN tournament count towards a GOM tournament series title? Hardly reasonable.
And lol @ "SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award." Wow... that line was so edgy you managed to cut me even though we're not in the same country. XDDDDDDD
I'm getting tired of it too and it doesn't help when I always thought the term Code S and Code A was stupid. Whomever came up with that idea. This is me giving you the CJ face. -_- At least you guys could have branched it to other sports. You know, it might just help outsiders better understand the complex system instead of going, "what does that even mean?"
Yeah, stop kidding yourself. Keen and Leenock were easily the favorites, and Avenge is more popular (and has more recent notable results in GSTL) than Pigbaby. Pigbaby is a nobody. Just because you're a fan doesn't make him a favorite hahaha.
On August 10 2013 05:27 sykora71 wrote: Without MLG Leenock doesn't really have much, sad to see him out of Code S (it will always be Code S in my heart) <3
/first post OP
Really? Because I'm pretty sure he won IPL5 and DreamHack Stockholm as well as placing 2nd in GSL November.
Speaking of which, how can this be Code S if it's not the GSL?
On August 10 2013 03:55 StarStruck wrote: Leenock and Life are still in purgatory lol.
Oh and for this..
On August 09 2013 21:26 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:43 Noocta wrote: Yeah ! More totally faceless kespa koreans D:
How about doing research yourself so that you can give them a face next time?
You don't know who the fuck Pigbaby? You ought to wake up then because he's a monster. (Directed at Noocta obviously). Some people really don't pay attention to the scene, lol. FYI he was a favorite in that group.
On August 10 2013 01:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote: It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.
So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )
As if he could control it being Starleague?
And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.
Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.
Lol you must be new here. Even back in the Brood War days MSL and OSL (and GOM Classic) were always separate entities. Why would an achievement in an OGN tournament count towards a GOM tournament series title? Hardly reasonable.
And lol @ "SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award." Wow... that line was so edgy you managed to cut me even though we're not in the same country. XDDDDDDD
I'm getting tired of it too and it doesn't help when I always thought the term Code S and Code A was stupid. Whomever came up with that idea. This is me giving you the CJ face. -_- At least you guys could have branched it to other sports. You know, it might just help outsiders better understand the complex system instead of going, "what does that even mean?"
Yeah, stop kidding yourself. Keen and Leenock were easily the favorites, and Avenge is more popular (and has more recent notable results in GSTL) than Pigbaby. Pigbaby is a nobody. Just because you're a fan doesn't make him a favorite hahaha.
Uh, no they weren't and this is coming from a huge Leenock fan. if you've been paying attention to PL you would know Pigbaby is legit. That's what we call selective reasoning at it's finest bud. You watch GSTL. Good for you. So do I and I also watch PL. If you were following PL in the slightest where you'd see Pigbaby do his thing you'd know this. Look at the polls as well. Pigbaby; Pigbaby; Pigbaby. I'm not even a real fan of Pigbaby's but I know when someone is running good, so save the nonsense for somewhere else.
Pigbaby may not have been a favorite to get out of the group, but the only people who were surprised at his advancement were people who didn't follow Proleague.
On August 10 2013 06:28 Yorbon wrote: Welp, time to take a look at some pigbaby vods then. Any recommendations?
Apparently Pigbaby vs. Rain from Proleague Round 6 T8 vs SKT had a cool strat that nobody saw coming. Unfortunately I don't have a vod link. See post below :D
Thanks, both of you! I already saw the game versus roro, i thought it wasnt particularly interesting, but i sure would've shit my pants if an overlord would be that close to scouting my push.
Lol, the game versus rain was fun indeed. Haven't seen that one before.
On August 10 2013 03:55 StarStruck wrote: Leenock and Life are still in purgatory lol.
Oh and for this..
On August 09 2013 21:26 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:43 Noocta wrote: Yeah ! More totally faceless kespa koreans D:
How about doing research yourself so that you can give them a face next time?
You don't know who the fuck Pigbaby? You ought to wake up then because he's a monster. (Directed at Noocta obviously). Some people really don't pay attention to the scene, lol. FYI he was a favorite in that group.
On August 10 2013 01:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote: It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.
So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )
As if he could control it being Starleague?
And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.
Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.
Lol you must be new here. Even back in the Brood War days MSL and OSL (and GOM Classic) were always separate entities. Why would an achievement in an OGN tournament count towards a GOM tournament series title? Hardly reasonable.
And lol @ "SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award." Wow... that line was so edgy you managed to cut me even though we're not in the same country. XDDDDDDD
I'm getting tired of it too and it doesn't help when I always thought the term Code S and Code A was stupid. Whomever came up with that idea. This is me giving you the CJ face. -_- At least you guys could have branched it to other sports. You know, it might just help outsiders better understand the complex system instead of going, "what does that even mean?"
Yeah, stop kidding yourself. Keen and Leenock were easily the favorites, and Avenge is more popular (and has more recent notable results in GSTL) than Pigbaby. Pigbaby is a nobody. Just because you're a fan doesn't make him a favorite hahaha.
Pigbaby's not a household name, but he's hardly a nobody. He's a cult favorite the same way that GuineaPig was - quirky name with a quirkier play style.
Honestly, I have no idea who Avenge is because I haven't been following GSTL lately (exaggeration, I remember him from his Zenex days). But PigBaby is just as well known in Proleague I feel (albeit less accomplished overall) if we're saying people are popular based on team leagues...
On August 10 2013 05:40 slowbacontron wrote: Pigbaby may not have been a favorite to get out of the group, but the only people who were surprised at his advancement were people who didn't follow Proleague.
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote: no nestea award for leenock
sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.
If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.
"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^" - Mr Chae 2013
And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.
Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.
I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.
DRG an MKP did NOT qualify for osl, so why count leenock and give them a free pass?? thats bs too.
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote: no nestea award for leenock
sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.
If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.
"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^" - Mr Chae 2013
And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.
Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.
I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.
"NesTea Award is customary prize awarded to any player who plays in GSL Code S for 10 times in a row." - Liquipedia.
The keywords there is "GSL Code S," and it has been like that since the beginning. OSL code S doesn't count.
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote: no nestea award for leenock
sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.
If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.
"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^" - Mr Chae 2013
And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.
Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.
I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.
"NesTea Award is customary prize awarded to any player who plays in GSL Code S for 10 times in a row." - Liquipedia.
The keywords there is "GSL Code S," and it has been like that since the beginning. OSL code S doesn't count.
The issue, if I understand it correctly, is that MSL and OSL results were independent of one another. Where as OSL and Code S results are intrinsically tied together. Leenock is now in Code A for the upcoming GSL tournament because of his results in an OSL tournament.
The MSL and OSL comparison isn't a good parallel if I am correct in my understanding. Leenock was indeed screwed by the powers that be if that was the case. My major complaint would be if there was a cash prize that Leenock now does not receive. A player with consistent and great results should be rewarded in our community. Being a pro gamer is hard enough of a life as it is without people stiffing players.
On August 10 2013 03:55 StarStruck wrote: Leenock and Life are still in purgatory lol.
Oh and for this..
On August 09 2013 21:26 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:43 Noocta wrote: Yeah ! More totally faceless kespa koreans D:
How about doing research yourself so that you can give them a face next time?
You don't know who the fuck Pigbaby? You ought to wake up then because he's a monster. (Directed at Noocta obviously). Some people really don't pay attention to the scene, lol. FYI he was a favorite in that group.
On August 10 2013 01:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote: It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.
So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )
As if he could control it being Starleague?
And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.
Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.
Lol you must be new here. Even back in the Brood War days MSL and OSL (and GOM Classic) were always separate entities. Why would an achievement in an OGN tournament count towards a GOM tournament series title? Hardly reasonable.
And lol @ "SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award." Wow... that line was so edgy you managed to cut me even though we're not in the same country. XDDDDDDD
I'm getting tired of it too and it doesn't help when I always thought the term Code S and Code A was stupid. Whomever came up with that idea. This is me giving you the CJ face. -_- At least you guys could have branched it to other sports. You know, it might just help outsiders better understand the complex system instead of going, "what does that even mean?"
Yeah, stop kidding yourself. Keen and Leenock were easily the favorites, and Avenge is more popular (and has more recent notable results in GSTL) than Pigbaby. Pigbaby is a nobody. Just because you're a fan doesn't make him a favorite hahaha.
Uh, no they weren't and this is coming from a huge Leenock fan. if you've been paying attention to PL you would know Pigbaby is legit. That's what we call selective reasoning at it's finest bud. You watch GSTL. Good for you. So do I and I also watch PL. If you were following PL in the slightest where you'd see Pigbaby do his thing you'd know this. Look at the polls as well. Pigbaby; Pigbaby; Pigbaby. I'm not even a real fan of Pigbaby's but I know when someone is running good, so save the nonsense for somewhere else.
lol. Pigbaby won 3 games in Proleague. That plus a mediocre performance in Code A. What polls ya lookin at bud? Pigbaby wasn't first or even THIRD in any I've seen. There's just no way he could have been called the favorite to get out of this group, when Keen and Leenock are accomplished monsters. You're dumb, bro.
On August 10 2013 03:55 StarStruck wrote: Leenock and Life are still in purgatory lol.
Oh and for this..
On August 09 2013 21:26 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:43 Noocta wrote: Yeah ! More totally faceless kespa koreans D:
How about doing research yourself so that you can give them a face next time?
You don't know who the fuck Pigbaby? You ought to wake up then because he's a monster. (Directed at Noocta obviously). Some people really don't pay attention to the scene, lol. FYI he was a favorite in that group.
On August 10 2013 01:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote: It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.
So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )
As if he could control it being Starleague?
And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.
Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.
Lol you must be new here. Even back in the Brood War days MSL and OSL (and GOM Classic) were always separate entities. Why would an achievement in an OGN tournament count towards a GOM tournament series title? Hardly reasonable.
And lol @ "SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award." Wow... that line was so edgy you managed to cut me even though we're not in the same country. XDDDDDDD
I'm getting tired of it too and it doesn't help when I always thought the term Code S and Code A was stupid. Whomever came up with that idea. This is me giving you the CJ face. -_- At least you guys could have branched it to other sports. You know, it might just help outsiders better understand the complex system instead of going, "what does that even mean?"
Yeah, stop kidding yourself. Keen and Leenock were easily the favorites, and Avenge is more popular (and has more recent notable results in GSTL) than Pigbaby. Pigbaby is a nobody. Just because you're a fan doesn't make him a favorite hahaha.
Uh, no they weren't and this is coming from a huge Leenock fan. if you've been paying attention to PL you would know Pigbaby is legit. That's what we call selective reasoning at it's finest bud. You watch GSTL. Good for you. So do I and I also watch PL. If you were following PL in the slightest where you'd see Pigbaby do his thing you'd know this. Look at the polls as well. Pigbaby; Pigbaby; Pigbaby. I'm not even a real fan of Pigbaby's but I know when someone is running good, so save the nonsense for somewhere else.
lol. Pigbaby won 3 games in Proleague. That plus a mediocre performance in Code A. What polls ya lookin at bud? Pigbaby wasn't first or even THIRD in any I've seen. There's just no way he could have been called the favorite to get out of this group, when Keen and Leenock are accomplished monsters. You're dumb, bro.
On August 10 2013 05:40 slowbacontron wrote: Pigbaby may not have been a favorite to get out of the group, but the only people who were surprised at his advancement were people who didn't follow Proleague.
Sniped :o
Pigbaby cheesy pig.
So Pigbaby won a DT Rush vs DT Rush game against Zest, Soul Trained a RorO that had droned up to 60 and could not get the proper scout, proxy-Void Rays rushed Rain and Cannon Rushed Avenge. You can say talent, or you can say cheesy pig. (I say cheesy pig.)
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote: no nestea award for leenock
sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.
If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.
"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^" - Mr Chae 2013
And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.
Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.
I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.
"NesTea Award is customary prize awarded to any player who plays in GSL Code S for 10 times in a row." - Liquipedia.
The keywords there is "GSL Code S," and it has been like that since the beginning. OSL code S doesn't count.
The issue, if I understand it correctly, is that MSL and OSL results were independent of one another. Where as OSL and Code S results are intrinsically tied together. Leenock is now in Code A for the upcoming GSL tournament because of his results in an OSL tournament.
The MSL and OSL comparison isn't a good parallel if I am correct in my understanding. Leenock was indeed screwed by the powers that be if that was the case. My major complaint would be if there was a cash prize that Leenock now does not receive. A player with consistent and great results should be rewarded in our community. Being a pro gamer is hard enough of a life as it is without people stiffing players.
This is what I mean, you just worded it a lot better.
We always talk about how we want consistant players, that the pro scene change too much. And when we finally get one, who managed to stay in Korea top 32 for 20 months in a row (note that Nestea did it for 17months to get the award), we don't reward him because he got fucked by higher powers. There was literally nothing he could do to prevent WCS mixing between OSL/GSL. It was out of his power.
As I said, it is the same tournament. Everyone agrees that it is Code S. Even when you dropped down from OSL you went to Code A / up and down that was held by GOM.
It's like saying that whoever wins WCS America now wins a completely different tournament that the one HerO won cause they changed from MLG -> NASL. It's the same tournament..
It just makes me sad that he got so fucked by higher powers that when he finally accomplished something in Korea he won't even get the prize for it. And it's almost impossible to start the streak now and get the award so..
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote: no nestea award for leenock
sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.
If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.
"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^" - Mr Chae 2013
And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.
Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.
I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.
"NesTea Award is customary prize awarded to any player who plays in GSL Code S for 10 times in a row." - Liquipedia.
The keywords there is "GSL Code S," and it has been like that since the beginning. OSL code S doesn't count.
The issue, if I understand it correctly, is that MSL and OSL results were independent of one another. Where as OSL and Code S results are intrinsically tied together. Leenock is now in Code A for the upcoming GSL tournament because of his results in an OSL tournament.
The MSL and OSL comparison isn't a good parallel if I am correct in my understanding. Leenock was indeed screwed by the powers that be if that was the case. My major complaint would be if there was a cash prize that Leenock now does not receive. A player with consistent and great results should be rewarded in our community. Being a pro gamer is hard enough of a life as it is without people stiffing players.
This is what I mean, you just worded it a lot better.
We always talk about how we want consistant players, that the pro scene change too much. And when we finally get one, who managed to stay in Korea top 32 for 20 months in a row (note that Nestea did it for 17months to get the award), we don't reward him because he got fucked by higher powers. There was literally nothing he could do to prevent WCS mixing between OSL/GSL. It was out of his power.
As I said, it is the same tournament. Everyone agrees that it is Code S. Even when you dropped down from OSL you went to Code A / up and down that was held by GOM.
It's like saying that whoever wins WCS America now wins a completely different tournament that the one HerO won cause they changed from MLG -> NASL. It's the same tournament..
It just makes me sad that he got so fucked by higher powers that when he finally accomplished something in Korea he won't even get the prize for it. And it's almost impossible to start the streak now and get the award so..
WCS America was not MLG though. Nor NASL. It was just WCS America.
Blizzard chose to make the distinction between WCS Korea GSL and WCS Korea OSL, not just in terms of who organizes it. Poor analogy imo.
And no matter what you say or think, it is NOT the same tournament. And I find it very laughable that you say "everyone agrees" when in this very thread people disagree and make the distinction.
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote: no nestea award for leenock
sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.
If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.
"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^" - Mr Chae 2013
And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.
Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.
I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.
"NesTea Award is customary prize awarded to any player who plays in GSL Code S for 10 times in a row." - Liquipedia.
The keywords there is "GSL Code S," and it has been like that since the beginning. OSL code S doesn't count.
The issue, if I understand it correctly, is that MSL and OSL results were independent of one another. Where as OSL and Code S results are intrinsically tied together. Leenock is now in Code A for the upcoming GSL tournament because of his results in an OSL tournament.
The MSL and OSL comparison isn't a good parallel if I am correct in my understanding. Leenock was indeed screwed by the powers that be if that was the case. My major complaint would be if there was a cash prize that Leenock now does not receive. A player with consistent and great results should be rewarded in our community. Being a pro gamer is hard enough of a life as it is without people stiffing players.
This is what I mean, you just worded it a lot better.
We always talk about how we want consistant players, that the pro scene change too much. And when we finally get one, who managed to stay in Korea top 32 for 20 months in a row (note that Nestea did it for 17months to get the award), we don't reward him because he got fucked by higher powers. There was literally nothing he could do to prevent WCS mixing between OSL/GSL. It was out of his power.
As I said, it is the same tournament. Everyone agrees that it is Code S. Even when you dropped down from OSL you went to Code A / up and down that was held by GOM.
It's like saying that whoever wins WCS America now wins a completely different tournament that the one HerO won cause they changed from MLG -> NASL. It's the same tournament..
It just makes me sad that he got so fucked by higher powers that when he finally accomplished something in Korea he won't even get the prize for it. And it's almost impossible to start the streak now and get the award so..
WCS America was not MLG though. Nor NASL. It was just WCS America.
Blizzard chose to make the distinction between WCS Korea GSL and WCS Korea OSL, not just in terms of who organizes it. Poor analogy imo.
And no matter what you say or think, it is NOT the same tournament. And I find it very laughable that you say "everyone agrees" when in this very thread people disagree and make the distinction.
Leenock qualified for his 10th season through GOM's up and downs into Code S. Reread this part until you get it.
He actually did qualify 10 seasons in a row, in GOM's rules and laws. It wasn't OGNs Up and Downs. And then AFTER he did it for 10 seasons in a row with GOM's rules he still won't get rewarded because he just happened to qualify for OSL (yet once again, 10 seasons with GOMs rules) that season that was completely out of his power.
If he could have chosen between qualifying for OSL or GSL that season he would have gotten the award. Because he did it through GOM's qualification system for his 10th season. He did what was required 9 seasons in a row and then requalify with GOMs rules into Code S for his 10th season. The Code S just happened to be OSL that time because Blizzard made WCS. How can you not say he got fucked by higher powers?
"Oh you played in the DreamHack qualifier and qualified? Shame we changed it to Kenyas superlan and there is nothing you can do about it." Better analogy?
On August 09 2013 20:38 negativedge wrote: no nestea award for leenock
sucks that he actually did spend ten straight seasons in the top flight korean league, only to have one of them not count.
If Mr Chae wasn't a retardedly biased IM fanboy, Leenock would have gotten the award.
"Oh you did the requirement of 10 Code S seasons in a row? Shame it wasn't the right type of Code S huehuelolol ^_^_^_^" - Mr Chae 2013
And yes I am mad. Dunno why Mr Chae decided to do like he did. And also if Blizzard had started the WCS system one season later Leenock would have gotten it as well.
Should just give Leenock the award and then if DRG/MKP qualifies them as well. And then discontinue the award altogether cause it will take 4 years to get it now.
I would be sad if Leenock dropped out of his 9th season. But it wasn't his 9th, it was his 10th and he did what was required.
"NesTea Award is customary prize awarded to any player who plays in GSL Code S for 10 times in a row." - Liquipedia.
The keywords there is "GSL Code S," and it has been like that since the beginning. OSL code S doesn't count.
The issue, if I understand it correctly, is that MSL and OSL results were independent of one another. Where as OSL and Code S results are intrinsically tied together. Leenock is now in Code A for the upcoming GSL tournament because of his results in an OSL tournament.
The MSL and OSL comparison isn't a good parallel if I am correct in my understanding. Leenock was indeed screwed by the powers that be if that was the case. My major complaint would be if there was a cash prize that Leenock now does not receive. A player with consistent and great results should be rewarded in our community. Being a pro gamer is hard enough of a life as it is without people stiffing players.
This is what I mean, you just worded it a lot better.
We always talk about how we want consistant players, that the pro scene change too much. And when we finally get one, who managed to stay in Korea top 32 for 20 months in a row (note that Nestea did it for 17months to get the award), we don't reward him because he got fucked by higher powers. There was literally nothing he could do to prevent WCS mixing between OSL/GSL. It was out of his power.
As I said, it is the same tournament. Everyone agrees that it is Code S. Even when you dropped down from OSL you went to Code A / up and down that was held by GOM.
It's like saying that whoever wins WCS America now wins a completely different tournament that the one HerO won cause they changed from MLG -> NASL. It's the same tournament..
It just makes me sad that he got so fucked by higher powers that when he finally accomplished something in Korea he won't even get the prize for it. And it's almost impossible to start the streak now and get the award so..
WCS America was not MLG though. Nor NASL. It was just WCS America.
Blizzard chose to make the distinction between WCS Korea GSL and WCS Korea OSL, not just in terms of who organizes it. Poor analogy imo.
And no matter what you say or think, it is NOT the same tournament. And I find it very laughable that you say "everyone agrees" when in this very thread people disagree and make the distinction.
Leenock qualified for his 10th season through GOM's up and downs into Code S. Reread this part until you get it.
He actually did qualify 10 seasons in a row, in GOM's rules and laws. It wasn't OGNs Up and Downs. And then AFTER he did it for 10 seasons in a row with GOM's rules he still won't get rewarded because he just happened to qualify for OSL (yet once again, 10 seasons with GOMs rules) that season that was completely out of his power.
If he could have chosen between qualifying for OSL or GSL that season he would have gotten the award. Because he did it through GOM's qualification system for his 10th season. He did what was required 9 seasons in a row and then requalify with GOMs rules into Code S for his 10th season. The Code S just happened to be OSL that time because Blizzard made WCS. How can you not say he got fucked by higher powers?
"Oh you played in the DreamHack qualifier and qualified? Shame we changed it to Kenyas superlan and there is nothing you can do about it." Better analogy?
Yeah I kinda agree. It would be quite obnoxious if MKP/DRG gets the award while Leenock doesn't.
On August 10 2013 03:55 StarStruck wrote: Leenock and Life are still in purgatory lol.
Oh and for this..
On August 09 2013 21:26 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:43 Noocta wrote: Yeah ! More totally faceless kespa koreans D:
How about doing research yourself so that you can give them a face next time?
You don't know who the fuck Pigbaby? You ought to wake up then because he's a monster. (Directed at Noocta obviously). Some people really don't pay attention to the scene, lol. FYI he was a favorite in that group.
On August 10 2013 01:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote: It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.
So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )
As if he could control it being Starleague?
And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.
Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.
Lol you must be new here. Even back in the Brood War days MSL and OSL (and GOM Classic) were always separate entities. Why would an achievement in an OGN tournament count towards a GOM tournament series title? Hardly reasonable.
And lol @ "SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award." Wow... that line was so edgy you managed to cut me even though we're not in the same country. XDDDDDDD
I'm getting tired of it too and it doesn't help when I always thought the term Code S and Code A was stupid. Whomever came up with that idea. This is me giving you the CJ face. -_- At least you guys could have branched it to other sports. You know, it might just help outsiders better understand the complex system instead of going, "what does that even mean?"
Yeah, stop kidding yourself. Keen and Leenock were easily the favorites, and Avenge is more popular (and has more recent notable results in GSTL) than Pigbaby. Pigbaby is a nobody. Just because you're a fan doesn't make him a favorite hahaha.
Uh, no they weren't and this is coming from a huge Leenock fan. if you've been paying attention to PL you would know Pigbaby is legit. That's what we call selective reasoning at it's finest bud. You watch GSTL. Good for you. So do I and I also watch PL. If you were following PL in the slightest where you'd see Pigbaby do his thing you'd know this. Look at the polls as well. Pigbaby; Pigbaby; Pigbaby. I'm not even a real fan of Pigbaby's but I know when someone is running good, so save the nonsense for somewhere else.
lol. Pigbaby won 3 games in Proleague. That plus a mediocre performance in Code A. What polls ya lookin at bud? Pigbaby wasn't first or even THIRD in any I've seen. There's just no way he could have been called the favorite to get out of this group, when Keen and Leenock are accomplished monsters. You're dumb, bro.
On August 10 2013 05:40 slowbacontron wrote: Pigbaby may not have been a favorite to get out of the group, but the only people who were surprised at his advancement were people who didn't follow Proleague.
Sniped :o
Pigbaby cheesy pig.
So Pigbaby won a DT Rush vs DT Rush game against Zest, Soul Trained a RorO that had droned up to 60 and could not get the proper scout, proxy-Void Rays rushed Rain and Cannon Rushed Avenge. You can say talent, or you can say cheesy pig. (I say cheesy pig.)
He cheesed the shit out of Ragnarok in code A too (soul train and then proxy gates).
On August 10 2013 03:55 StarStruck wrote: Leenock and Life are still in purgatory lol.
Oh and for this..
On August 09 2013 21:26 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:43 Noocta wrote: Yeah ! More totally faceless kespa koreans D:
How about doing research yourself so that you can give them a face next time?
You don't know who the fuck Pigbaby? You ought to wake up then because he's a monster. (Directed at Noocta obviously). Some people really don't pay attention to the scene, lol. FYI he was a favorite in that group.
On August 10 2013 01:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote: It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.
So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )
As if he could control it being Starleague?
And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.
Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.
Lol you must be new here. Even back in the Brood War days MSL and OSL (and GOM Classic) were always separate entities. Why would an achievement in an OGN tournament count towards a GOM tournament series title? Hardly reasonable.
And lol @ "SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award." Wow... that line was so edgy you managed to cut me even though we're not in the same country. XDDDDDDD
I'm getting tired of it too and it doesn't help when I always thought the term Code S and Code A was stupid. Whomever came up with that idea. This is me giving you the CJ face. -_- At least you guys could have branched it to other sports. You know, it might just help outsiders better understand the complex system instead of going, "what does that even mean?"
Yeah, stop kidding yourself. Keen and Leenock were easily the favorites, and Avenge is more popular (and has more recent notable results in GSTL) than Pigbaby. Pigbaby is a nobody. Just because you're a fan doesn't make him a favorite hahaha.
Uh, no they weren't and this is coming from a huge Leenock fan. if you've been paying attention to PL you would know Pigbaby is legit. That's what we call selective reasoning at it's finest bud. You watch GSTL. Good for you. So do I and I also watch PL. If you were following PL in the slightest where you'd see Pigbaby do his thing you'd know this. Look at the polls as well. Pigbaby; Pigbaby; Pigbaby. I'm not even a real fan of Pigbaby's but I know when someone is running good, so save the nonsense for somewhere else.
lol. Pigbaby won 3 games in Proleague. That plus a mediocre performance in Code A. What polls ya lookin at bud? Pigbaby wasn't first or even THIRD in any I've seen. There's just no way he could have been called the favorite to get out of this group, when Keen and Leenock are accomplished monsters. You're dumb, bro.
On August 10 2013 05:40 slowbacontron wrote: Pigbaby may not have been a favorite to get out of the group, but the only people who were surprised at his advancement were people who didn't follow Proleague.
Sniped :o
Pigbaby cheesy pig.
So Pigbaby won a DT Rush vs DT Rush game against Zest, Soul Trained a RorO that had droned up to 60 and could not get the proper scout, proxy-Void Rays rushed Rain and Cannon Rushed Avenge. You can say talent, or you can say cheesy pig. (I say cheesy pig.)
what's wrong with cheese build ? LOL cheesy or macro, it doesn't matter with pro gamers because their aim is the victories. It's not platinum or gold league ladder games but pro gamers level
On August 10 2013 03:55 StarStruck wrote: Leenock and Life are still in purgatory lol.
Oh and for this..
On August 09 2013 21:26 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:43 Noocta wrote: Yeah ! More totally faceless kespa koreans D:
How about doing research yourself so that you can give them a face next time?
You don't know who the fuck Pigbaby? You ought to wake up then because he's a monster. (Directed at Noocta obviously). Some people really don't pay attention to the scene, lol. FYI he was a favorite in that group.
On August 10 2013 01:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote: It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.
So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )
As if he could control it being Starleague?
And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.
Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.
Lol you must be new here. Even back in the Brood War days MSL and OSL (and GOM Classic) were always separate entities. Why would an achievement in an OGN tournament count towards a GOM tournament series title? Hardly reasonable.
And lol @ "SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award." Wow... that line was so edgy you managed to cut me even though we're not in the same country. XDDDDDDD
I'm getting tired of it too and it doesn't help when I always thought the term Code S and Code A was stupid. Whomever came up with that idea. This is me giving you the CJ face. -_- At least you guys could have branched it to other sports. You know, it might just help outsiders better understand the complex system instead of going, "what does that even mean?"
Yeah, stop kidding yourself. Keen and Leenock were easily the favorites, and Avenge is more popular (and has more recent notable results in GSTL) than Pigbaby. Pigbaby is a nobody. Just because you're a fan doesn't make him a favorite hahaha.
Uh, no they weren't and this is coming from a huge Leenock fan. if you've been paying attention to PL you would know Pigbaby is legit. That's what we call selective reasoning at it's finest bud. You watch GSTL. Good for you. So do I and I also watch PL. If you were following PL in the slightest where you'd see Pigbaby do his thing you'd know this. Look at the polls as well. Pigbaby; Pigbaby; Pigbaby. I'm not even a real fan of Pigbaby's but I know when someone is running good, so save the nonsense for somewhere else.
lol. Pigbaby won 3 games in Proleague. That plus a mediocre performance in Code A. What polls ya lookin at bud? Pigbaby wasn't first or even THIRD in any I've seen. There's just no way he could have been called the favorite to get out of this group, when Keen and Leenock are accomplished monsters. You're dumb, bro.
On August 10 2013 07:36 painkilla wrote:
On August 10 2013 05:40 slowbacontron wrote: Pigbaby may not have been a favorite to get out of the group, but the only people who were surprised at his advancement were people who didn't follow Proleague.
Sniped :o
Pigbaby cheesy pig.
So Pigbaby won a DT Rush vs DT Rush game against Zest, Soul Trained a RorO that had droned up to 60 and could not get the proper scout, proxy-Void Rays rushed Rain and Cannon Rushed Avenge. You can say talent, or you can say cheesy pig. (I say cheesy pig.)
what's wrong with cheese build ? LOL cheesy or macro, it doesn't matter with pro gamers because their aim is the victories. It's not platinum or gold league ladder games but pro gamers level
Nothing wrong with cheese build. But if all you do is cheese then ppl will call you cheesy.
On August 10 2013 03:55 StarStruck wrote: Leenock and Life are still in purgatory lol.
Oh and for this..
On August 09 2013 21:26 Nebuchad wrote:
On August 09 2013 20:43 Noocta wrote: Yeah ! More totally faceless kespa koreans D:
How about doing research yourself so that you can give them a face next time?
You don't know who the fuck Pigbaby? You ought to wake up then because he's a monster. (Directed at Noocta obviously). Some people really don't pay attention to the scene, lol. FYI he was a favorite in that group.
On August 10 2013 01:50 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:39 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On August 10 2013 01:17 TommyP wrote: It would be completely idiotic to give Leenock the NesTea award lol. Why would he get it? Its 10 seasons of Code S not 9 seasons of code S and 1 of Starleague.
So happy keen made it though. 3 MVP players in Code S (soon to be four when DRG wins NesTea award )
As if he could control it being Starleague?
And everyone calls OSL Code S anyway. We all know it's Code S. So it is 9 seasons of GOM Code S and then 1 season of OGN Code S. It was Code S nontheless and he qualified through GOMtv Up and Down last season. If it had been a completely separate qualifier I wouldn't argue. But 10 seasons in a row is 10 seasons in a row.
Oh well, SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award. Deserving ppl not getting what they achieved is pretty bullshit. It's like changing the prizepool in a tournament right before the final.
Lol you must be new here. Even back in the Brood War days MSL and OSL (and GOM Classic) were always separate entities. Why would an achievement in an OGN tournament count towards a GOM tournament series title? Hardly reasonable.
And lol @ "SC2 just lost a few more viewers until he gets the award." Wow... that line was so edgy you managed to cut me even though we're not in the same country. XDDDDDDD
I'm getting tired of it too and it doesn't help when I always thought the term Code S and Code A was stupid. Whomever came up with that idea. This is me giving you the CJ face. -_- At least you guys could have branched it to other sports. You know, it might just help outsiders better understand the complex system instead of going, "what does that even mean?"
Yeah, stop kidding yourself. Keen and Leenock were easily the favorites, and Avenge is more popular (and has more recent notable results in GSTL) than Pigbaby. Pigbaby is a nobody. Just because you're a fan doesn't make him a favorite hahaha.
Uh, no they weren't and this is coming from a huge Leenock fan. if you've been paying attention to PL you would know Pigbaby is legit. That's what we call selective reasoning at it's finest bud. You watch GSTL. Good for you. So do I and I also watch PL. If you were following PL in the slightest where you'd see Pigbaby do his thing you'd know this. Look at the polls as well. Pigbaby; Pigbaby; Pigbaby. I'm not even a real fan of Pigbaby's but I know when someone is running good, so save the nonsense for somewhere else.
lol. Pigbaby won 3 games in Proleague. That plus a mediocre performance in Code A. What polls ya lookin at bud? Pigbaby wasn't first or even THIRD in any I've seen. There's just no way he could have been called the favorite to get out of this group, when Keen and Leenock are accomplished monsters. You're dumb, bro.
Mediocre? Pwease. This guy's been on a rampage for T8 for a while and where the heck you think? Look at the LRs and bets on the gaming sites. He was a heavy favorite to make it out. Nice attempt at a jab, but it is you who are in fact clueless. Watch more SC2, thx.
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Pigbaby and MVP's 
KeeN secured two more spots in upcoming Code S tournament. As in the previous groups, a bit-part Proleague player caused a stir, with Jin Air's (formerly Team 8) PigBaby going 3 - 1 and securing first place in the group.
Leenock who finished 1 - 3 in the group.
