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How is MLG killing Esports exactly? They have always used the games that bring the most viewers, if SC2 isn't doing that anymore, then of course MLG won't bring it back.
MLG is not killing Esports, SC2 is killing SC2.
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On August 09 2013 03:22 ROOTheognis wrote:
I'm glad I got out while I did. It's a joke to be an NA progamer atm rofl...
.. who are you?
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I remember them announcing at Anaheim in the SC venue that the next MLG would be in Columbus in November. What a scumbag move to later announce that they won't even have SC.
Goddamnit.
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On August 09 2013 03:34 gosublade wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 03:22 ROOTheognis wrote:
I'm glad I got out while I did. It's a joke to be an NA progamer atm rofl... .. who are you?
Some GM player I guess
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On August 09 2013 03:34 gosublade wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 03:22 ROOTheognis wrote:
I'm glad I got out while I did. It's a joke to be an NA progamer atm rofl... .. who are you?
are you dumb
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On August 09 2013 03:34 gosublade wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 03:22 ROOTheognis wrote:
I'm glad I got out while I did. It's a joke to be an NA progamer atm rofl... .. who are you?
lolwat. Nice one gosublade.
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On August 09 2013 03:33 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 03:14 norjoncal wrote:On August 09 2013 02:58 packrat386 wrote:On August 09 2013 02:48 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 08 2013 22:58 XaCez wrote:
So, let's see what has changed in the NA scene:
IPL: Gone.
MLG: Gone.
NASL: Works with WCS.
WCS: Koreans.
Missed something? IEM New York Also Robert Ohlen's dream is to have dreamhack in us :D Not to mention Red Bull LANs. I do not think MLG is leaving SC2 altogether They are not going to do SC2 at one of their events. MLG Columbus is only 2 weeks after Blizzcon. So after the biggest SC2 event of the year people are supposed to get hyped again? I feel SC2 should really have an Off Season of 3-4 months a year. This post makes a lot of sense.
I agree as well. An 3-4 month off season is good for the scene. It can't be all SC2 all the time.
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On August 09 2013 03:39 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 03:33 Plexa wrote:On August 09 2013 03:14 norjoncal wrote:On August 09 2013 02:58 packrat386 wrote:On August 09 2013 02:48 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 08 2013 22:58 XaCez wrote:
So, let's see what has changed in the NA scene:
IPL: Gone.
MLG: Gone.
NASL: Works with WCS.
WCS: Koreans.
Missed something? IEM New York Also Robert Ohlen's dream is to have dreamhack in us :D Not to mention Red Bull LANs. I do not think MLG is leaving SC2 altogether They are not going to do SC2 at one of their events. MLG Columbus is only 2 weeks after Blizzcon. So after the biggest SC2 event of the year people are supposed to get hyped again? I feel SC2 should really have an Off Season of 3-4 months a year. This post makes a lot of sense. I agree as well. An 3-4 month off season is good for the scene. It can't be all SC2 all the time.
It'll help me catch up at work since I won't have tournaments to be watching constantly. 
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On August 09 2013 01:28 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 01:17 Plansix wrote:On August 09 2013 01:09 EuroRabbit wrote:On August 09 2013 00:59 vult wrote:On August 09 2013 00:50 BatesCsC wrote:
At some point we're going to have to acknowledge that we've wasted the last 3 years of our life playing the terrible successor to one of the best games ever made.
Even those in master league+ will be mocked and chided at for not playing BroodWar (Since both are/will be equally dead), "You were good at Sc2?. I'm good at wanking, does that make me skilled at video games?"
I know this is worth at least a warning but someone needs to say it rather than pathetically trying to convince ourselves the game can survive with Blizzard at the wheel. I love posts like this. Make me truly appreciate the level of maturity some people lack, and the complete absence of a filter. You make a post in a sc2 thread trashing on sc2. Good1. Well there is some truth to his statement. Blizzard has FAILED big time in a lot of ways with this game, especially the first 12-18 months after the games release. The community cried for a full 18 months before they took away close spawn positions, and starting actually listening to the community on what maps they want in the pool rather than what big brother Blizzard thinks is best for everyone. I guess the best way to sum it up is to just look at Dota 2 and what Valve has done in a relatively short period of time and how well they have listened to the community, and look how well it has paid off. TI3 is going to be a huge deal and is already bringing up really good numbers. Just think, it took Blizzard 2.5 years just to put in chat channels......just let that sink in. I love the people looking at Dota 2 through rose colored glasses, as I attempt to play and get DCed 3 times a day, my parties get lock and I can't invite people. Or the store bugs out or my client bugs out during game and I need to reconnect. Have to pause for a disconnect at least once every other game. Yeah, I feel like most of the people praising Dota2 don't actually play it. Like its a fun game, but their UI has a lot of random bugs.
what? i've literally played over 1k games and very rarely have problems with the client.
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On August 09 2013 03:33 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 03:14 norjoncal wrote:On August 09 2013 02:58 packrat386 wrote:On August 09 2013 02:48 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 08 2013 22:58 XaCez wrote:
So, let's see what has changed in the NA scene:
IPL: Gone.
MLG: Gone.
NASL: Works with WCS.
WCS: Koreans.
Missed something? IEM New York Also Robert Ohlen's dream is to have dreamhack in us :D Not to mention Red Bull LANs. I do not think MLG is leaving SC2 altogether They are not going to do SC2 at one of their events. MLG Columbus is only 2 weeks after Blizzcon. So after the biggest SC2 event of the year people are supposed to get hyped again? I feel SC2 should really have an Off Season of 3-4 months a year. This post makes a lot of sense.
Agreed. Still have to call Sundance on his bullshit though because this was the most drama inducing petulant child bullshit way of announcing anything _ever_
On August 09 2013 03:42 sc14s wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 01:28 packrat386 wrote:On August 09 2013 01:17 Plansix wrote:On August 09 2013 01:09 EuroRabbit wrote:On August 09 2013 00:59 vult wrote:On August 09 2013 00:50 BatesCsC wrote:
At some point we're going to have to acknowledge that we've wasted the last 3 years of our life playing the terrible successor to one of the best games ever made.
Even those in master league+ will be mocked and chided at for not playing BroodWar (Since both are/will be equally dead), "You were good at Sc2?. I'm good at wanking, does that make me skilled at video games?"
I know this is worth at least a warning but someone needs to say it rather than pathetically trying to convince ourselves the game can survive with Blizzard at the wheel. I love posts like this. Make me truly appreciate the level of maturity some people lack, and the complete absence of a filter. You make a post in a sc2 thread trashing on sc2. Good1. Well there is some truth to his statement. Blizzard has FAILED big time in a lot of ways with this game, especially the first 12-18 months after the games release. The community cried for a full 18 months before they took away close spawn positions, and starting actually listening to the community on what maps they want in the pool rather than what big brother Blizzard thinks is best for everyone. I guess the best way to sum it up is to just look at Dota 2 and what Valve has done in a relatively short period of time and how well they have listened to the community, and look how well it has paid off. TI3 is going to be a huge deal and is already bringing up really good numbers. Just think, it took Blizzard 2.5 years just to put in chat channels......just let that sink in. I love the people looking at Dota 2 through rose colored glasses, as I attempt to play and get DCed 3 times a day, my parties get lock and I can't invite people. Or the store bugs out or my client bugs out during game and I need to reconnect. Have to pause for a disconnect at least once every other game. Yeah, I feel like most of the people praising Dota2 don't actually play it. Like its a fun game, but their UI has a lot of random bugs. what? i've literally played over 1k games and very rarely have problems with the client.
I've personally never had any issues with Games for Windows Live. It doesn't mean that it's not a giant steaming piece of shit that heaps of other players have issues with, however. (Not that Dota 2 is such.)
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On August 09 2013 03:41 renaissanceMAN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 03:39 Plansix wrote:On August 09 2013 03:33 Plexa wrote:On August 09 2013 03:14 norjoncal wrote:On August 09 2013 02:58 packrat386 wrote:On August 09 2013 02:48 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 08 2013 22:58 XaCez wrote:
So, let's see what has changed in the NA scene:
IPL: Gone.
MLG: Gone.
NASL: Works with WCS.
WCS: Koreans.
Missed something? IEM New York Also Robert Ohlen's dream is to have dreamhack in us :D Not to mention Red Bull LANs. I do not think MLG is leaving SC2 altogether They are not going to do SC2 at one of their events. MLG Columbus is only 2 weeks after Blizzcon. So after the biggest SC2 event of the year people are supposed to get hyped again? I feel SC2 should really have an Off Season of 3-4 months a year. This post makes a lot of sense. I agree as well. An 3-4 month off season is good for the scene. It can't be all SC2 all the time. It'll help me catch up at work since I won't have tournaments to be watching constantly.
I'm overwhelmed by the current selection so end up watching not much, OSL/GSL only really.
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On August 09 2013 03:34 gosublade wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 03:22 ROOTheognis wrote:
I'm glad I got out while I did. It's a joke to be an NA progamer atm rofl... .. who are you?
According to his own words, he was a pro gamer who was a joke
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On August 09 2013 03:37 renaissanceMAN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 03:34 gosublade wrote:On August 09 2013 03:22 ROOTheognis wrote:
I'm glad I got out while I did. It's a joke to be an NA progamer atm rofl... .. who are you? are you dumb
I think its funny that you insult other people that don't know an american progamer that manages to qualify for Season 1 WCS NA premier league just to fall out of it again in S2 and had some wins in a MLG losers bracket. Truly achievements that get you worldwide sc2 fame.
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On August 08 2013 22:09 ImperialFist wrote:
MLG trying to kill E-Sports
starcraft isnt all of esports, in fact its one of the smallest games out there, so not having it isnt very bad for mlg's perspective
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wow this is in stark contrast to the last few years, where sc2 was the really big draw for MLG and the main reason they grew so much over the past few years. Now (apparently) it isnt even necessarily profitable (if it was why wouldnt they have it) to have sc2 in one of their events.
How much has the sc2 scene shrunk over the past year, just curious because i dont really follow it that much anymore, i may watch a match here or there every few months, but i used to spend hours upon hours a week watching it, so its a lot harder to gauge its popularity now.
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pretty sure hes joking and was just being an ass to a retired (apparently spiteful) failed semi pro gamer
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On August 09 2013 03:14 norjoncal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 02:58 packrat386 wrote:On August 09 2013 02:48 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On August 08 2013 22:58 XaCez wrote:
So, let's see what has changed in the NA scene:
IPL: Gone.
MLG: Gone.
NASL: Works with WCS.
WCS: Koreans.
Missed something? IEM New York Also Robert Ohlen's dream is to have dreamhack in us :D Not to mention Red Bull LANs. I do not think MLG is leaving SC2 altogether They are not going to do SC2 at one of their events. MLG Columbus is only 2 weeks after Blizzcon. So after the biggest SC2 event of the year people are supposed to get hyped again? I feel SC2 should really have an Off Season of 3-4 months a year.
Good point, there's probably too much sc2 content with WCS right now.
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On August 09 2013 03:42 sc14s wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 01:28 packrat386 wrote:On August 09 2013 01:17 Plansix wrote:On August 09 2013 01:09 EuroRabbit wrote:On August 09 2013 00:59 vult wrote:On August 09 2013 00:50 BatesCsC wrote:
At some point we're going to have to acknowledge that we've wasted the last 3 years of our life playing the terrible successor to one of the best games ever made.
Even those in master league+ will be mocked and chided at for not playing BroodWar (Since both are/will be equally dead), "You were good at Sc2?. I'm good at wanking, does that make me skilled at video games?"
I know this is worth at least a warning but someone needs to say it rather than pathetically trying to convince ourselves the game can survive with Blizzard at the wheel. I love posts like this. Make me truly appreciate the level of maturity some people lack, and the complete absence of a filter. You make a post in a sc2 thread trashing on sc2. Good1. Well there is some truth to his statement. Blizzard has FAILED big time in a lot of ways with this game, especially the first 12-18 months after the games release. The community cried for a full 18 months before they took away close spawn positions, and starting actually listening to the community on what maps they want in the pool rather than what big brother Blizzard thinks is best for everyone. I guess the best way to sum it up is to just look at Dota 2 and what Valve has done in a relatively short period of time and how well they have listened to the community, and look how well it has paid off. TI3 is going to be a huge deal and is already bringing up really good numbers. Just think, it took Blizzard 2.5 years just to put in chat channels......just let that sink in. I love the people looking at Dota 2 through rose colored glasses, as I attempt to play and get DCed 3 times a day, my parties get lock and I can't invite people. Or the store bugs out or my client bugs out during game and I need to reconnect. Have to pause for a disconnect at least once every other game. Yeah, I feel like most of the people praising Dota2 don't actually play it. Like its a fun game, but their UI has a lot of random bugs. what? i've literally played over 1k games and very rarely have problems with the client.
What the fuck game are you talking about? The Dota 2 client is buggy as hit. It kicks people all the time. The entire TL and giant bomb community cannot be wrong.
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On August 09 2013 03:45 Gr33d wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 03:37 renaissanceMAN wrote:On August 09 2013 03:34 gosublade wrote:On August 09 2013 03:22 ROOTheognis wrote:
I'm glad I got out while I did. It's a joke to be an NA progamer atm rofl... .. who are you? are you dumb I think its funny that you insult other people that don't know an american progamer that manages to qualify for Season 1 WCS NA premier league just to fall out of it again in S2 and had some wins in a MLG losers bracket. Truly achievements that get you worldwide sc2 fame.
He is a progamer that spends a decent amount of time on the very website that the guy claiming not to know him is posting on, he doesn't need global fame in order to be known here.
On August 09 2013 03:49 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2013 03:42 sc14s wrote:On August 09 2013 01:28 packrat386 wrote:On August 09 2013 01:17 Plansix wrote:On August 09 2013 01:09 EuroRabbit wrote:On August 09 2013 00:59 vult wrote:On August 09 2013 00:50 BatesCsC wrote:
At some point we're going to have to acknowledge that we've wasted the last 3 years of our life playing the terrible successor to one of the best games ever made.
Even those in master league+ will be mocked and chided at for not playing BroodWar (Since both are/will be equally dead), "You were good at Sc2?. I'm good at wanking, does that make me skilled at video games?"
I know this is worth at least a warning but someone needs to say it rather than pathetically trying to convince ourselves the game can survive with Blizzard at the wheel. I love posts like this. Make me truly appreciate the level of maturity some people lack, and the complete absence of a filter. You make a post in a sc2 thread trashing on sc2. Good1. Well there is some truth to his statement. Blizzard has FAILED big time in a lot of ways with this game, especially the first 12-18 months after the games release. The community cried for a full 18 months before they took away close spawn positions, and starting actually listening to the community on what maps they want in the pool rather than what big brother Blizzard thinks is best for everyone. I guess the best way to sum it up is to just look at Dota 2 and what Valve has done in a relatively short period of time and how well they have listened to the community, and look how well it has paid off. TI3 is going to be a huge deal and is already bringing up really good numbers. Just think, it took Blizzard 2.5 years just to put in chat channels......just let that sink in. I love the people looking at Dota 2 through rose colored glasses, as I attempt to play and get DCed 3 times a day, my parties get lock and I can't invite people. Or the store bugs out or my client bugs out during game and I need to reconnect. Have to pause for a disconnect at least once every other game. Yeah, I feel like most of the people praising Dota2 don't actually play it. Like its a fun game, but their UI has a lot of random bugs. what? i've literally played over 1k games and very rarely have problems with the client. What the fuck game are you talking about? The Dota 2 client is buggy as hit. It kicks people all the time. The entire TL and giant bomb community cannot be wrong.
I have to say the only proper bug I've experienced is the Dota 2 network being down recently (which I think is due to TI3).
Oh, and the lag at the beginning of every game when the heroes load.
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