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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 08 2013 17:39 GMT
#421
On August 09 2013 02:36 Fluffboll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 02:24 Gr33d wrote:
On August 09 2013 01:54 Strela wrote:
On August 09 2013 01:53 packrat386 wrote:
TB getting in on the fun


it's been kinda obvious that TB wanted to focus more on Dota 2 and less on starcraft for long time now


Much bigger casual crowd, he would fit in way better. Prepare for some not funny YT videos with "SC2 is dead and I told you before" with a british accent.


Why on earth would he do such videos when he sponsors a SC2 team and his wife runs said team?

Ignore people being silly. Of course he isn't giving up on SC2, until he wife is done with the team. But he may want to cast more Dota 2 stuff. Or maybe he will just start casting the Redbull events. Hell, he should host them with Incontrol.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
norjoncal
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
89 Posts
August 08 2013 17:40 GMT
#422
I do not feel like SC2 is dying but the bubble has popped. I do believe that the number of fans is increasing but it is not to the level that can sustain the current scene.
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 17:46:18
August 08 2013 17:40 GMT
#423
Too many people have bought into Artosis' delusion that Starcraft is some timeless, intrinsically superior form of entertainment like chess (and we all know how long chess has been around right?) that will never die.

It isn't.

Time passes, people get bored and move on to new games. This isn't football or basketball or soccer. Unlike the human body, computer hardware is rapidly and constantly improving and with it the games played on it also evolve and improve. Let your personal enjoyment of SC2 be enough.

edit:

Thread summary:

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
HeartOfTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Niue585 Posts
August 08 2013 17:40 GMT
#424
I doubt they will remove SC2, because ''sc2 is dying''. It's more like there is a conflict between Blizzard and MLG
"I do not join. I lead." - Queen of Blades
azMaverick
Profile Joined June 2011
United States66 Posts
August 08 2013 17:42 GMT
#425
MLG helped created WCS, qualifiers weren't run all that well. Production was iffy. Dropped WCS after 1 go around then remove SC2 from MLG.. Food for thought.
Only a man who knows what it is like to be defeated can reach down to the bottom of his soul and come up with the extra ounce of power it takes to win when the match is even.
MrMedic
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada452 Posts
August 08 2013 17:46 GMT
#426
I can only hope they don't take it away
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
August 08 2013 17:46 GMT
#427
On August 09 2013 02:39 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 02:36 Fluffboll wrote:
On August 09 2013 02:24 Gr33d wrote:
On August 09 2013 01:54 Strela wrote:
On August 09 2013 01:53 packrat386 wrote:
TB getting in on the fun


it's been kinda obvious that TB wanted to focus more on Dota 2 and less on starcraft for long time now


Much bigger casual crowd, he would fit in way better. Prepare for some not funny YT videos with "SC2 is dead and I told you before" with a british accent.


Why on earth would he do such videos when he sponsors a SC2 team and his wife runs said team?

Ignore people being silly. Of course he isn't giving up on SC2, until he wife is done with the team. But he may want to cast more Dota 2 stuff. Or maybe he will just start casting the Redbull events. Hell, he should host them with Incontrol.

Two things for you guys.
1. Dota 2 has enough great casters so they don't need a new one.
2. TB doesn't understand Dota 2 at all. Hell, he still doesn't understand SC2 completely after 3 years of casting... Good luck casting dota with no understanding. The general play by play shoutcasting doesn't work here.
Of course he can try and I wish him luck, but I find it hard to believe.
Gr33d
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany423 Posts
August 08 2013 17:48 GMT
#428
On August 09 2013 02:36 Fluffboll wrote:
Why on earth would he do such videos when he sponsors a SC2 team and his wife runs said team?


Just because a team is currently sponsored by X it does not mean it will continue till the end of time. (Oh and he loves drama)

Slightly offtopic:
Does MLG even make any profit? The last I heard was that they were still just running on venture capital. They reduced the amount of offline events, to the point of people playing in their NY office (and only recently changed back), they were responsible for WCS NA and played a big role that it CRASHED pretty hard, then lost WCS NA. Switching to a F2P game like LoL that brings in lots of viewers or the atrocity that are shooters like CoD/Halo on console where they seem to have little competition from other broadcasters are maybe the best methods to make some cash.
Fanatics find their heaven in never ending storming wind || Auguries of destruction be a lullaby for rebirth
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 08 2013 17:48 GMT
#429
On August 08 2013 22:58 XaCez wrote:
So, let's see what has changed in the NA scene:
IPL: Gone.
MLG: Gone.
NASL: Works with WCS.
WCS: Koreans.

Missed something?

IEM New York

Also Robert Ohlen's dream is to have dreamhack in us :D
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 08 2013 17:52 GMT
#430
On August 09 2013 02:36 Fluffboll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 02:24 Gr33d wrote:
On August 09 2013 01:54 Strela wrote:
On August 09 2013 01:53 packrat386 wrote:
TB getting in on the fun


it's been kinda obvious that TB wanted to focus more on Dota 2 and less on starcraft for long time now


Much bigger casual crowd, he would fit in way better. Prepare for some not funny YT videos with "SC2 is dead and I told you before" with a british accent.


Why on earth would he do such videos when he sponsors a SC2 team and his wife runs said team?


There's people idiot enough to think TB is selfishly profiting from sc2 because they had no idea who he was before he started casting.
Baffling really.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
August 08 2013 17:53 GMT
#431
MLG strikes back to Blizzard ?
@taefoxy
norjoncal
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
89 Posts
August 08 2013 17:56 GMT
#432
On August 09 2013 02:40 Cyrak wrote:
Too many people have bought into Artosis' delusion that Starcraft is some timeless, intrinsically superior form of entertainment like chess (and we all know how long chess has been around right?) that will never die.

It isn't.

Time passes, people get bored and move on to new games. This isn't football or basketball or soccer. Unlike the human body, computer hardware is rapidly and constantly improving and with it the games played on it also evolve and improve. Let your personal enjoyment of SC2 be enough.


Exactly SC2 is big but it seems like most people want or believe that it is 100 times bigger that it actually is. It is still in a bubble. It will still be around for the next 5 years at least but I doubt we get to 500,000 concurrent views on a regular basis.

That does not suggest that I do not want it to grow. I bring it up in conversions with families,friends,coworkers, etc.

A high percentage of current posters (the loudest of hive mind on TL and Reddit) think that all we have to do is have Blizzard throw their unlimited money supply at it. Give this organization money give this personality money.
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
August 08 2013 17:57 GMT
#433
My gold membership from way back when was up for renewal. Have been debating if it was worth it for a while. Definitely cancelling it now.
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
August 08 2013 17:58 GMT
#434
On August 09 2013 02:48 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 22:58 XaCez wrote:
So, let's see what has changed in the NA scene:
IPL: Gone.
MLG: Gone.
NASL: Works with WCS.
WCS: Koreans.

Missed something?

IEM New York

Also Robert Ohlen's dream is to have dreamhack in us :D

Not to mention Red Bull LANs.
dreaming of a sunny day
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 17:58:42
August 08 2013 17:58 GMT
#435
I can already see the future. A new LoL team will rise to dominate the scene and it will be comprised of, MKP, Life, DRG, Leenock and MVP with Nestea as coach!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Traceback
Profile Joined October 2010
United States469 Posts
August 08 2013 18:03 GMT
#436
On August 09 2013 02:58 Canucklehead wrote:
I can already see the future. A new LoL team will rise to dominate the scene and it will be comprised of, MKP, Life, DRG, Leenock and MVP with Nestea as coach!

Well, at least they wouldn't need to worry about any more stress on their wrists...
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 18:06:25
August 08 2013 18:06 GMT
#437
Edit, Wrong thread
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
August 08 2013 18:07 GMT
#438
Looks like the foreign scene is continuing to diminish. No IPL. No MLG. NASL doing WCS AM, a tournament which is hardly supporting the local scene. The most popular Foreign players have retired or are considering taking a break. Death of a thousand cuts, is still a death.

A sad development.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
August 08 2013 18:08 GMT
#439
Funny
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
August 08 2013 18:11 GMT
#440
On August 09 2013 02:57 Lunares wrote:
My gold membership from way back when was up for renewal. Have been debating if it was worth it for a while. Definitely cancelling it now.


I didn't even realize that it would auto-renew. Mine was set to renew on the 26th. Thanks you saved me some money.
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