Warp prism speed buff, test map. 5.28.2013 - Page 22

On May 29 2013 06:11 Littlesheep wrote:
This change is pretty obviously an attempt to counter the swarmhost build which seems unbeatable atm at high levels. It needs to be changed and will barely impact PvT or even seperate zerg builds.

This is a lategame swarmhost nerf, nothing else.

On May 29 2013 06:15 Emzeeshady wrote:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Holy fucking noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On May 29 2013 06:16 Thieving Magpie wrote:


But is it really buff in the lategame?

The difficulty right now is that early robo builds needs to get colossus range which delays prism harass. Without range colossus swarmhosts just do too much damage. This speeds up early game harass by 220 ingame seconds (the time it currently takes to get colossus range and then prism speed immediately afterwards)

So imagine the current meta of SH vs Colossus--but prism drops start about 3:40 minutes earlier.

On May 29 2013 06:15 Emzeeshady wrote:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Holy fucking noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On May 29 2013 06:19 Nerchio wrote:
Can we give zerg something to be agressive?

On May 29 2013 06:19 Nerchio wrote:
Can we give zerg something to be agressive?

On May 29 2013 06:19 Nerchio wrote:
Can we give zerg something to be agressive?

On May 29 2013 05:05 c0sm0naut wrote:


unless you are ranked higher than me as random, which you're not (because i can tell instantly - ZERG), i dont want to hear how buying a cheap upgrade would make mutas bad.. I play random and am top 8 or top 25 masters depending on how much time i have to play per week
last time i checked, mutalisk were dominating ZvZ and 8-10 gas geyser muta switches are killing top level protoss even when they seem to be prepared for them. I'm not trying to call you out, but an upgrade for mutas,e ven if it's short and very cheap might be exactly what needs to happen..

what's laughable, is giving protoss a speed drop upgrade to help them drop zealots into super cheap spore/spine forests in PvZ late game easier and making me lose TvP's constantly because warp prisms are extremely strong in early pvt especially if you consider all of the blind "better have it's" in this matchup like missile turrets and bunkers in numbers of 2-3 if you're unsure what P is doing..

On May 29 2013 06:29 playa wrote:
I was wondering when Blizzard would do something; half of Blizzard's front page on general forums is "protoss sucks" and "protoss needs to be redesigned" threads. It reached a pretty comical level. No other race had posts like that. You know it's bad when players that don't even play protoss are talking about how bad the race is.

As for warp prism speed, I'm very nostalgic when it comes to BW and fond of the philosophy of it should be possible to kill dropships/transporting units. I want to feel like it's possible to lose a warp prism, or when I'm watching a game that there is some risk attached to a medivac drop. Either make everything slower or give everyone a scourge... it honestly tilts me and feels dirty knowing there's now way in hell my warp prism will die.

I'm tired of winning games against swarm hosts and feeling so compelled to quit SC 2. Winning games against swarm hosts are even harder on me than tough losses. There's nothing more painful and ridiculous than playing against swarm hosts on some of these maps. Winning or losing is completely irrelevant. It's always a horrible feeling.

A change to counter swarm hosts? Lol. Warp prims already don't die. You can already snipe their main, etc, etc,. But, you can't ever engage their army because you know it's never going to be anywhere near cost efficient. So, you have to play an hour long game where you try to get every expo and make sure they have no mining bases, and then you still are afraid to engage and are simply trying to pick 1 or 2 swarm hosts off here and there. The game is a complete fuck job and this is a joke if this is supposed to help. I didn't realize warp prisms spawned free units. I guess warp in's must be free, as long as via the warp prism. If that doesn't sound balanced, then maybe the swarm host shouldn't, either.