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On May 18 2013 02:44 Keeemy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 02:42 KingOfNoodles wrote: So was the speed set to fast from the beginning of the game? Or did the referee accidentally press "-" during the game? Like I said a bit earlier, the speed changed during Life's introduction (about 1:05 to 1:25 game time). IS THAT BEFORE OR AFTER LIFE'S POOL WAS BUILT?
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i thought it was a bit weird but couldn't tell for sure since the obs always move around. poor life
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On May 18 2013 03:05 Mortal wrote: I'm still saying this isn't true. Players that pause when their monitor isn't exactly perfect and are so anal about every little detail don't notice the GAME SPEED? I mean get real. Maybe casters just play it off, spectators are lulled into a daze, but the pros wouldn't miss this.
I'm not sure how you can be in such denial when there's blinding evidence, video, image, and calculations in every page of this thread.
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Life was the agressor, Parting was the defender. Having more time to react when he's the defender obviously gave Parting an advantage in that particular scenario.
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Seriously I don't know how anyone can deny this. I compared many VODs already and the speed does change during Life's introduction.
One possibility is that Legend pressed the slowing button by accident while doing the fancy zooming stuff. But idk if he has the "power" to change it.
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On May 18 2013 03:06 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 03:05 Mortal wrote: I'm still saying this isn't true. Players that pause when their monitor isn't exactly perfect and are so anal about every little detail don't notice the GAME SPEED? I mean get real. Maybe casters just play it off, spectators are lulled into a daze, but the pros wouldn't miss this. I'm not sure how you can be in such denial when there's blinding evidence, video, image, and calculations in every page of this thread. guess I'm just ignorant. maybe it did happen, but for both players to not say or do anything about it while playing such an important game seems literally impossible. they've played thousands and thousands of games. they know their shit better than basically anyone. they had to have noticed.
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On May 18 2013 03:05 Mortal wrote: I'm still saying this isn't true. Players that pause when their monitor isn't exactly perfect and are so anal about every little detail don't notice the GAME SPEED? I mean get real. Maybe casters just play it off, spectators are lulled into a daze, but the pros wouldn't miss this.
Then how would you explain the evidence ? So many ppl just go here and all they could say is "I dont believe it man. Someone must have notice it back then". Anyone of those ppl even look at the evidences ? It's kinda solid, and there's even a video proof on some of the first few pages. Like a child in denial stage.
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This is a fairly big deal in terms of playing conditions. If I'm a player with 150apm against a player with 300apm then a slower gamespeed will benefit me. Similarly there are situations where the micro intensive unit composition benefits more from such a situation. It is impossible to say whether it influenced the outcome of this game, but it did influence the game in some way that we can't measure.
However theoretically it may suck for Life, it is even more unfair to PartinG (and Soulkey) to change the outcome now. At this point all you have is a choice between the lesser of two evils, which is letting the result stand. Hopefully Life gets an apology of some sort. Take notice, improve, and move on. Preferably without too much drama as we have enough of that already.
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On May 18 2013 03:09 Mortal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 03:06 ch33psh33p wrote:On May 18 2013 03:05 Mortal wrote: I'm still saying this isn't true. Players that pause when their monitor isn't exactly perfect and are so anal about every little detail don't notice the GAME SPEED? I mean get real. Maybe casters just play it off, spectators are lulled into a daze, but the pros wouldn't miss this. I'm not sure how you can be in such denial when there's blinding evidence, video, image, and calculations in every page of this thread. guess I'm just ignorant. maybe it did happen, but for both players to not say or do anything about it while playing such an important game seems literally impossible. they've played thousands and thousands of games. they know their shit better than basically anyone. they had to have noticed.
The fact that they didn't say anything, that nothing was changed and that the game was played out on Fast instead of Faster seems to indicate that it isn't literally impossible
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since it was on faster till 1:00+ and only then changed, given the circumstances of the match, its reasonable to say that players could've not noticed the speed change
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Can someone confirm if observers can change the game speed? If yes, most likely Legend did it by accident cus it changed during his zooming stuff.
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On May 18 2013 03:10 vndestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 03:05 Mortal wrote: I'm still saying this isn't true. Players that pause when their monitor isn't exactly perfect and are so anal about every little detail don't notice the GAME SPEED? I mean get real. Maybe casters just play it off, spectators are lulled into a daze, but the pros wouldn't miss this. Then how would you explain the evidence ? So many ppl just go here and all they could say is "I dont believe it man. Someone must have notice it back then". Anyone of those ppl even look at the evidences ? It's kinda solid, and there's even a video proof on some of the first few pages. Like a child in denial stage. how about you read what I wrote above before making silly jabs? I said maybe it did happen, but these two players had to have noticed. why they wouldn't have said anything is completely beyond me. I understand casters and spec's not noticing, but these two know the game better than anyone in the world (among a select few others obviously).
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On May 18 2013 03:09 Mortal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 03:06 ch33psh33p wrote:On May 18 2013 03:05 Mortal wrote: I'm still saying this isn't true. Players that pause when their monitor isn't exactly perfect and are so anal about every little detail don't notice the GAME SPEED? I mean get real. Maybe casters just play it off, spectators are lulled into a daze, but the pros wouldn't miss this. I'm not sure how you can be in such denial when there's blinding evidence, video, image, and calculations in every page of this thread. guess I'm just ignorant. maybe it did happen, but for both players to not say or do anything about it while playing such an important game seems literally impossible. they've played thousands and thousands of games. they know their shit better than basically anyone. they had to have noticed.
both players were unbelievably stressed out. it was the final match of the group, and both players had heavily trash talked the other. they might have just assumed that they were so, "in the zone", that the game slowed down a little bit for them.
either way your absolute blinding refusal to see what happened is kinda funny.
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On May 18 2013 03:09 Mortal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 03:06 ch33psh33p wrote:On May 18 2013 03:05 Mortal wrote: I'm still saying this isn't true. Players that pause when their monitor isn't exactly perfect and are so anal about every little detail don't notice the GAME SPEED? I mean get real. Maybe casters just play it off, spectators are lulled into a daze, but the pros wouldn't miss this. I'm not sure how you can be in such denial when there's blinding evidence, video, image, and calculations in every page of this thread. guess I'm just ignorant. maybe it did happen, but for both players to not say or do anything about it while playing such an important game seems literally impossible. they've played thousands and thousands of games. they know their shit better than basically anyone. they had to have noticed. Rofl you're more than ignorant, you're stupid and prideful to a fault if you won't admit your original assessment was wrong.
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Obviously it's too late to do anything about it now, but it's important to bring attention to it so that they're more careful about this kind of stuff in the future and such mistakes are avoided.
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On May 18 2013 03:11 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: This is a fairly big deal in terms of playing conditions. If I'm a player with 150apm against a player with 300apm then a slower gamespeed will benefit me. Similarly there are situations where the micro intensive unit composition benefits more from such a situation. It is impossible to say whether it influenced the outcome of this game, but it did influence the game in some way that we can't measure.
However theoretically it may suck for Life, it is even more unfair to PartinG to change the outcome now. At this point all you have is a choice between the lesser of two evils, which I think is let the result stand. Hopefully Life gets an apology of some sort. Take notice, improve, and move on. Preferably without too much drama as we have enough of that already.
Agreed. 0% result will be overturned aynway. This feels similar to that Nestea vs Byun(?) game where Nestea got the bottom of his ramp blocked because there was no neutral depot there.
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On May 18 2013 03:14 StyLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 03:09 Mortal wrote:On May 18 2013 03:06 ch33psh33p wrote:On May 18 2013 03:05 Mortal wrote: I'm still saying this isn't true. Players that pause when their monitor isn't exactly perfect and are so anal about every little detail don't notice the GAME SPEED? I mean get real. Maybe casters just play it off, spectators are lulled into a daze, but the pros wouldn't miss this. I'm not sure how you can be in such denial when there's blinding evidence, video, image, and calculations in every page of this thread. guess I'm just ignorant. maybe it did happen, but for both players to not say or do anything about it while playing such an important game seems literally impossible. they've played thousands and thousands of games. they know their shit better than basically anyone. they had to have noticed. Rofl you're more than ignorant, you're stupid and prideful to a fault if you won't admit your original assessment was wrong. maybe you missed the fact that I admitted it could've happened, but I don't understand how the players could've missed it. they're two of the best in the world. so the game speed was played on fast, yes I was wrong in that department. but how did these two not see it?
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On May 18 2013 03:13 Mortal wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 03:10 vndestiny wrote:On May 18 2013 03:05 Mortal wrote: I'm still saying this isn't true. Players that pause when their monitor isn't exactly perfect and are so anal about every little detail don't notice the GAME SPEED? I mean get real. Maybe casters just play it off, spectators are lulled into a daze, but the pros wouldn't miss this. Then how would you explain the evidence ? So many ppl just go here and all they could say is "I dont believe it man. Someone must have notice it back then". Anyone of those ppl even look at the evidences ? It's kinda solid, and there's even a video proof on some of the first few pages. Like a child in denial stage. how about you read what I wrote above before making silly jabs? I said maybe it did happen, but these two players had to have noticed. why they wouldn't have said anything is completely beyond me. I understand casters and spec's not noticing, but these two know the game better than anyone in the world (among a select few others obviously).
Because the game started on faster. I can easily tell the difference between faster and fast at the beginning of a game, but the players and everyone watching had the expectation that the game would remain on faster and would've dismissed any notions of how it felt slightly slower.
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On May 18 2013 03:16 jianming wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2013 03:11 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: This is a fairly big deal in terms of playing conditions. If I'm a player with 150apm against a player with 300apm then a slower gamespeed will benefit me. Similarly there are situations where the micro intensive unit composition benefits more from such a situation. It is impossible to say whether it influenced the outcome of this game, but it did influence the game in some way that we can't measure.
However theoretically it may suck for Life, it is even more unfair to PartinG to change the outcome now. At this point all you have is a choice between the lesser of two evils, which I think is let the result stand. Hopefully Life gets an apology of some sort. Take notice, improve, and move on. Preferably without too much drama as we have enough of that already. Agreed. 0% result will be overturned aynway. This feels similar to that Nestea vs Byun(?) game where Nestea got the bottom of his ramp blocked because there was no neutral depot there. lol what u gonna do anyway, punish SK and let him play vs life ro8 again and let mkp vs parting? lol
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