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Code S Group of Death, PartinG vs Life, game speed - Page 12

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Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 18:26:24
May 17 2013 18:23 GMT
#221
Since some people have said that observers can change the game speed, I think that Legend changed the speed by accident while doing the zooming in stuff. Tough luck.

Take this with a grain of salt because I DO NOT KNOW anything for sure.
Hello
Algar
Profile Joined September 2010
United States27 Posts
May 17 2013 18:26 GMT
#222
On May 17 2013 23:54 kochanfe wrote:
Uh, no it actually wasn't. You honestly think the players and casters wouldn't have noticed immediately? Sorry, but you're wrong.


I like how OP preemptively provides direct evidence and yet people are so accustomed to fallaciously applying Argument from Authority that they boldly state he is incorrect. I bet life would be easier if my brain worked that way.
Thanks. I like to play.
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
May 17 2013 18:27 GMT
#223
Nice OP! Sucks for Life I wonder how no one noticed until this.
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
May 17 2013 18:27 GMT
#224
On May 18 2013 03:26 Algar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 23:54 kochanfe wrote:
Uh, no it actually wasn't. You honestly think the players and casters wouldn't have noticed immediately? Sorry, but you're wrong.


I like how OP preemptively provides direct evidence and yet people are so accustomed to fallaciously applying Argument from Authority that they boldly state he is incorrect. I bet life would be easier if my brain worked that way.

Naw... originally there was no evidence in the OP whatsoever. With that evidence it is obvious that he is correct, but with no evidence this is a perfectly valid initial response.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
sc2chronic
Profile Joined May 2012
United States777 Posts
May 17 2013 18:28 GMT
#225
as frustrating as it may be, they arent going to change the results or re-play the series. the best we could do is try to prevent this in the future.

now thinking about it, there is a probability this has happened in other sc2 matches as well
terrible, terrible, damage
sc2chronic
Profile Joined May 2012
United States777 Posts
May 17 2013 18:29 GMT
#226
and all those potentially blaming legend, he is def not the only referee/ observer in the games. heavendom does the observing for the korean stream and the intro timings play at the same time for both streams
terrible, terrible, damage
furerkip
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States439 Posts
May 17 2013 18:31 GMT
#227
On May 18 2013 03:14 StyLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:09 Mortal wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:06 ch33psh33p wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:05 Mortal wrote:
I'm still saying this isn't true. Players that pause when their monitor isn't exactly perfect and are so anal about every little detail don't notice the GAME SPEED? I mean get real. Maybe casters just play it off, spectators are lulled into a daze, but the pros wouldn't miss this.


I'm not sure how you can be in such denial when there's blinding evidence, video, image, and calculations in every page of this thread.


guess I'm just ignorant. maybe it did happen, but for both players to not say or do anything about it while playing such an important game seems literally impossible. they've played thousands and thousands of games. they know their shit better than basically anyone. they had to have noticed.

Rofl you're more than ignorant, you're stupid and prideful to a fault if you won't admit your original assessment was wrong.


He is only mortal.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
May 17 2013 18:32 GMT
#228
On May 18 2013 03:13 Mortal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:10 vndestiny wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:05 Mortal wrote:
I'm still saying this isn't true. Players that pause when their monitor isn't exactly perfect and are so anal about every little detail don't notice the GAME SPEED? I mean get real. Maybe casters just play it off, spectators are lulled into a daze, but the pros wouldn't miss this.


Then how would you explain the evidence ? So many ppl just go here and all they could say is "I dont believe it man. Someone must have notice it back then". Anyone of those ppl even look at the evidences ? It's kinda solid, and there's even a video proof on some of the first few pages. Like a child in denial stage.

how about you read what I wrote above before making silly jabs? I said maybe it did happen, but these two players had to have noticed. why they wouldn't have said anything is completely beyond me. I understand casters and spec's not noticing, but these two know the game better than anyone in the world (among a select few others obviously).


Sorry dude I wrote my reply b4 reading yours. And it wasnt really personal meant for you but there were too many replies which were exactly like that, which pissed me off a litle. Still, point is that there are almost undeniable evidences saying the game speed was fast, plus the fast that the players apparently did not notice or noticed but chose not to say anything. You should have express your opinion on that weird events, instead of a purely denial post ( or at least that's what your 1st reply sounded like )
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
May 17 2013 18:35 GMT
#229
On May 18 2013 03:32 vndestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:13 Mortal wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:10 vndestiny wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:05 Mortal wrote:
I'm still saying this isn't true. Players that pause when their monitor isn't exactly perfect and are so anal about every little detail don't notice the GAME SPEED? I mean get real. Maybe casters just play it off, spectators are lulled into a daze, but the pros wouldn't miss this.


Then how would you explain the evidence ? So many ppl just go here and all they could say is "I dont believe it man. Someone must have notice it back then". Anyone of those ppl even look at the evidences ? It's kinda solid, and there's even a video proof on some of the first few pages. Like a child in denial stage.

how about you read what I wrote above before making silly jabs? I said maybe it did happen, but these two players had to have noticed. why they wouldn't have said anything is completely beyond me. I understand casters and spec's not noticing, but these two know the game better than anyone in the world (among a select few others obviously).


Sorry dude I wrote my reply b4 reading yours. And it wasnt really personal meant for you but there were too many replies which were exactly like that, which pissed me off a litle. Still, point is that there are almost undeniable evidences saying the game speed was fast, plus the fast that the players apparently did not notice or noticed but chose not to say anything. You should have express your opinion on that weird events, instead of a purely denial post ( or at least that's what your 1st reply sounded like )

no I agree, you're 100% right. My original post was based upon the OP at the time which had 0 evidence whatsoever. it has since been updated and I've looked at what's been presented. my only question now is how these players didn't see it. they know their timings so incredibly well that it's just odd they didn't pick up on it. very unfortunate as it is actually a pretty big problem in the scheme of things.
The universe created an audience for itself.
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
May 17 2013 18:36 GMT
#230
A Social Psychologist can write a thesis on this.
I'm no expert, so I don't know what it is called exactly, but something similar to
Ringelmann_effect or
Social_loafing happened.

A few % of people, including those working for GOM, must have noticed something strange, but literally every single one of them thought, " Someone ELSE will point out / take care of it." Then actually NO ONE did anything about it. It's really interesting and scary. What if some crucial games during WoL were played @ fast speed and no one has noticed yet today? It's quite possible.
mumming
Profile Joined June 2010
Faroe Islands256 Posts
May 17 2013 18:37 GMT
#231
I remember thinking about it while watching it, but i was so tired that I didnt look more into it
Insurrectionist
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway141 Posts
May 17 2013 18:40 GMT
#232
Hah, I too noticed the lings seemed to be a bit slow for speedlings but too fast and had wings so they couldn't be without speed, just put it down to skewed perception at the time though and didn't think anything of it.
IcookTacos
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden295 Posts
May 17 2013 18:40 GMT
#233
Wow, how did this go by unnoticed? :O
Life | Ryung | Mvp | MarineKing | Jaedong | Bisu | HerO
B1itZZ
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom70 Posts
May 17 2013 18:41 GMT
#234
Wow I just assumed this was a mistake when I first read about it, but it seems that I was wrong! Cannot believe this happened in such a high caliber match and wasn't noticed.
tribulator
Profile Joined February 2011
774 Posts
May 17 2013 18:42 GMT
#235
I think most people, if they noticed it, probably wrote it off in their head as "ahh, I'm tired and had a cup of coffee too much probably, just my eyes fucking with me".

Great catch.

Sad for life though.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
May 17 2013 18:43 GMT
#236
This is huge! No wonder parting had such a miraculous hold in that game, when life should have been able to kill him easy. Those magical ff are more explainable now. Big diff in series as life would have won that on faster speed and is 21-0 in series when he wins the first game. Poor life got screwed by gom's mistake.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 18:47:29
May 17 2013 18:47 GMT
#237
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
May 17 2013 18:49 GMT
#238
Actually things did feel really strange during that game, but I thought it was just the extreme hype. I too was hyped to an insane level during the matches. It's weird, but definitely well within the realm of possibilities, as someone above me pointed out, if everyone thought "someone else will point it out if something is truly wrong", then stuff like this can happen.

Even with the evidence, it's so far out it's still hard to accept as fact. Also it's kinda of a big deal, hmm, really affects things a lot.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
May 17 2013 18:51 GMT
#239
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thorwashere
Profile Joined May 2011
8 Posts
May 17 2013 18:53 GMT
#240
On May 17 2013 23:54 kochanfe wrote:
Uh, no it actually wasn't. You honestly think the players and casters wouldn't have noticed immediately? Sorry, but you're wrong.


how stupid do you feel right now?
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