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These will be played LIVE in New York at the MLG studio.
Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_America/Premier
How these will be played: Group Stage #2 (Round of 16): Dual Tournament format. Best-of-three. The 4 players of each group in Round of 16 will face off similar to Round of 32. Players who place 3rd and 4th in their group will fall to the Challenger League Round of 16.
Groups were chosen this way: Two Ro32 group winners + 2 Ro32 second placers in every group chosen randomly. You can not meet someone you've been in a group with in the Ro32.
Group A: Monday, May 20 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) NesTea vs Snute Alicia vs Sen
Group B: Tuesday, May 21 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) TheStC vs Apocalypse CranK vs mOOnGLaDe
Group C: Wednesday, May 22 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) HerO vs Scarlett Suppy vs Revival
Group D: Thursday, May 23 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) viOLet vs aLive Polt vs Ryung
Poll: Group of Death?D (370) 81% C (55) 12% A (28) 6% B (4) 1% 457 total votes Your vote: Group of Death? (Vote): A (Vote): B (Vote): C (Vote): D
Poll: Who will advance from Group A?NesTea & Alicia (104) 26% NesTea & Sen (102) 25% Alicia & Sen (64) 16% NesTea & Snute (63) 16% Snute & Sen (37) 9% Snute & Alicia (36) 9% 406 total votes Your vote: Who will advance from Group A? (Vote): NesTea & Snute (Vote): NesTea & Alicia (Vote): NesTea & Sen (Vote): Snute & Alicia (Vote): Snute & Sen (Vote): Alicia & Sen
Poll: Who will advance from Group B?TheStC & Crank (182) 54% Crank & mOOnGLaDe (63) 19% TheStC & mOOnGLaDe (46) 14% TheStC & Apocalypse (22) 7% Apocalypse & Crank (17) 5% Apocalypse & mOOnGLaDe (4) 1% 334 total votes Your vote: Who will advance from Group B? (Vote): TheStC & Apocalypse (Vote): TheStC & Crank (Vote): TheStC & mOOnGLaDe (Vote): Apocalypse & Crank (Vote): Apocalypse & mOOnGLaDe (Vote): Crank & mOOnGLaDe
Poll: Who will advance from Group C?HerO & Scarlett (169) 44% HerO & Revival (78) 20% HerO & Suppy (68) 18% Scarlett & Suppy (56) 15% Scarlett & Revival (10) 3% Suppy & Revival (5) 1% 386 total votes Your vote: Who will advance from Group C? (Vote): HerO & Scarlett (Vote): HerO & Suppy (Vote): HerO & Revival (Vote): Scarlett & Suppy (Vote): Scarlett & Revival (Vote): Suppy & Revival
Poll: Who will advance from Group D?viOLet & Polt (148) 42% Polt vs Ryung (114) 32% viOLet & Ryung (58) 16% aLive & Polt (14) 4% aLive & Ryung (11) 3% viOLet & aLive (7) 2% 352 total votes Your vote: Who will advance from Group D? (Vote): viOLet & aLive (Vote): viOLet & Polt (Vote): viOLet & Ryung (Vote): aLive & Polt (Vote): aLive & Ryung (Vote): Polt vs Ryung
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gosh i just finished making fourteen LR OPs time to make four more
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Anyone else extremely disappointed there wasn't a group selection?
I mean, I understand they wouldn't of been able to do it in person and on camera, but they still could of done it by setting a time and having people pick. Then interviewing why they picked who they picked.
Disappointed.
^^and I could help you with those if you would like, but either or
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On May 10 2013 10:52 Prplppleatr wrote: Anyone else extremely disappointed there wasn't a group selection?
I mean, I understand they wouldn't of been able to do it in person and on camera, but they still could of done it by setting a time and having people pick. Then interviewing why they picked who they picked.
Disappointed.
How would they determine who gets to pick first though? GSL has a ranking based on points, but WCS doesn't really have that yet.
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poor violet lol, atleast he only has tvz to prepare
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I'm feeling viOlet Ryung, for some reason.
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Suppy HerO Revival and Scarlett in the same group is too cruel .
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Where's the option "None of the above"?
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Group D, holy shit what the
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Man group C is just rough from a fan point of view. 2 very likeable foreigners in Suppy and Scarlett and also HerO.
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On May 10 2013 10:53 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 10:52 Prplppleatr wrote: Anyone else extremely disappointed there wasn't a group selection?
I mean, I understand they wouldn't of been able to do it in person and on camera, but they still could of done it by setting a time and having people pick. Then interviewing why they picked who they picked.
Disappointed. How would they determine who gets to pick first though? GSL has a ranking based on points, but WCS doesn't really have that yet. Draw straws, lol. Or maybe the way they came up with these groups...yes they have those rules of not meeting someone, but there is more than on possibility with those...Does it really matter?
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Group C makes me sad
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date? when are the groups going to be played? cause I have Hero on my fantasy team.
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On May 10 2013 10:52 Prplppleatr wrote: Anyone else extremely disappointed there wasn't a group selection?
I mean, I understand they wouldn't of been able to do it in person and on camera, but they still could of done it by setting a time and having people pick. Then interviewing why they picked who they picked.
Disappointed.
^^and I could help you with those if you would like, but either or
What would of ended up happening is that the Koreans would all try to get the foreigners, with the exception of maybe scarlett and no foreigners would get through :/
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Group D stands above every other group in terms of sheer talent and results.
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I think Sen should make it out of that group, and one of Scarlett or Suppy could make it out of theirs.
This is a pretty bad "Americas" tournament though
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Damn that group D... Sen Suppy and Scarlett all have strong chances to make it out though. Moonglade a little tougher. Let's hope for a not all Korean Ro8!
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On May 10 2013 11:00 rei wrote: date? when are the groups going to be played? cause I have Hero on my fantasy team.
There isn't any type of WCS fantasy league? Unless you mean fantasy team on another site.
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A nice chance for Moonglade, I think he can def make it :D
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On May 10 2013 11:00 Soke wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 10:52 Prplppleatr wrote: Anyone else extremely disappointed there wasn't a group selection?
I mean, I understand they wouldn't of been able to do it in person and on camera, but they still could of done it by setting a time and having people pick. Then interviewing why they picked who they picked.
Disappointed.
^^and I could help you with those if you would like, but either or What would of ended up happening is that the Koreans would all try to get the foreigners, with the exception of maybe scarlett and no foreigners would get through :/ And you think they have better chances with these groups? lol
With so many koreans going through, that is unavoidable. And every korean will be trying to get a foreigner, so it would be interesting.
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And I was just looking at this on liquipedia wondering why there wasn't a thread yet.
Group D is definitely the group of death though, all those Koreans, all those Terrans, all that violet.
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On May 10 2013 11:00 rei wrote: date? when are the groups going to be played? cause I have Hero on my fantasy team. the week of May 20-23. I'll add it to the OP
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Rofl. I don't know how MLG is creating these brackets, but they have been just god awful from the start.
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A total of 2 people from the Americas out of the 16...
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On May 10 2013 11:06 Luftmensch wrote: A total of 2 people from the Americas out of the 16...
Are you surprised? Still, we did have a few solid NA players fall short though (Illusion, Huk, Major, etc.), but the number wasn't going to be much higher than this
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Groups are pretty unbalanced o.o'' I think it's difficult to make them more top heavy than they are without putting all of the foreigners into one group.
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On May 10 2013 11:08 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 11:06 Luftmensch wrote: A total of 2 people from the Americas out of the 16... Are you surprised? Still, we did have a few solid NA players fall short though (Illusion, Huk, Major, etc.), but the number wasn't going to be much higher than this I'm pretty sure most people were expecting just Scarlett and hoping to maybe get a 2nd
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I would not want to be a protoss in group A or C. It's nice to have only 1 matchup to practice, but at the same time it's going to be tough when the other 2 zergs see your builds. Not to mention the skill level of the zergs they are facing! As far as a group of death it's tough to say, I mean playing in groups with all solid players is one thing, but playing in groups with such a wide variety of styles from all over the world and them having time to prepare can be a gauntlet.
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On May 10 2013 11:08 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 11:06 Luftmensch wrote: A total of 2 people from the Americas out of the 16... Are you surprised? Still, we did have a few solid NA players fall short though (Illusion, Huk, Major, etc.), but the number wasn't going to be much higher than this
Meh... With Blizzard messing up the region restrictions and MLG messing up the qualifiers, the whole Americas part of WCS is a complete farce.
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On May 10 2013 11:09 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 11:08 Bagration wrote:On May 10 2013 11:06 Luftmensch wrote: A total of 2 people from the Americas out of the 16... Are you surprised? Still, we did have a few solid NA players fall short though (Illusion, Huk, Major, etc.), but the number wasn't going to be much higher than this I'm pretty sure most people were expecting just Scarlett and hoping to maybe get a 2nd
I didn't even know Scarlett was playing again after that announcement about a 6 month long hiatus.
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On May 10 2013 11:11 Reborn8u wrote: I would not want to be a protoss in group A or C. It's nice to have only 1 matchup to practice, but at the same time it's going to be tough when the other 2 zergs see your builds. Not to mention the skill level of the zergs they are facing! As far as a group of death it's tough to say, I mean playing in groups with all solid players is one thing, but playing in groups with such a wide variety of styles from all over the world and them having time to prepare can be a gauntlet.
Pretty sure HerO isn't dwelling over his group at all.
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On May 10 2013 11:12 Luftmensch wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 11:08 Bagration wrote:On May 10 2013 11:06 Luftmensch wrote: A total of 2 people from the Americas out of the 16... Are you surprised? Still, we did have a few solid NA players fall short though (Illusion, Huk, Major, etc.), but the number wasn't going to be much higher than this Meh... With Blizzard messing up the region restrictions and MLG messing up the qualifiers, the whole Americas part of WCS is a complete farce.
Either way it was going to be a farce. If you only have the Americans (meaning the North and South Americans) playing in a tournament that had the same prizepool as the GSL in Korea, that would have been easy money for players like Scarlett. And that would have been a farce.
At least by bringing in the Koreans, you get a decent level of competition for the tournament, and now winning WCS AM will hold more significance.
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y must scarlett and hero face each other >< Those were the 2 players i was rooting for the most too
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Compared to the EU groups Group D definitely looks more meatier than the rest whereas EU looks even keel.
On May 10 2013 11:27 hesho89 wrote: y must scarlett and hero face each other >< Those were the 2 players i was rooting for the most too Someone has to die eventually.
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On May 10 2013 11:11 Reborn8u wrote: I would not want to be a protoss in group A or C. It's nice to have only 1 matchup to practice, but at the same time it's going to be tough when the other 2 zergs see your builds. Not to mention the skill level of the zergs they are facing! As far as a group of death it's tough to say, I mean playing in groups with all solid players is one thing, but playing in groups with such a wide variety of styles from all over the world and them having time to prepare can be a gauntlet.
yeah because Hero is really worried about the skill level of the zergs in his group XD. he just looks over at violets group, then back at his and sighs in relief.
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Group C is easily the group that gets the most attention from me. Seems like a pretty solid/even group.
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On May 10 2013 11:06 Luftmensch wrote: A total of 2 people from the Americas out of the 16...
And both in the same group, that is pretty sad =/ GO GO Suppy!!
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The only two people actually from the Americas get put in the same group *facepalm*
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On May 10 2013 11:01 Thrillz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 11:00 rei wrote: date? when are the groups going to be played? cause I have Hero on my fantasy team. There isn't any type of WCS fantasy league? Unless you mean fantasy team on another site. I assume he means he's worried about Hero being fatigued from travel, or having already left for WCS when Proleague is on .
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Damn, that's a hard group for Polt. Violet has always been one of the zerg that give him trouble, and both aLive and Ryung are TvT monsters. oO
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Likely to see an All-Korean round of 8 for the "America WCS" . . .
Blizzard, you watching? Going to weasel out of this PR screw-up somehow? Don't worry, I'm sure you'll think of something creative as an excuse . . .
P.S. Anyone imagining the crowd reaction during Blizzcon when the entire "America" roster walks on stage in front of thousands of Americans and it's all Koreans? Cringe-worthy to think about.
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Their reasoning hasn't changed from the start. Best games, by the best players, played live in your timezone. Honestly, I wouldn't care who walked on stage, as long as I got to see amazing games. Previous Blizzcon, NASL and MLG live tournaments have been filled with Koreans too.
That being said, I really would like to see region locks, To me, it would make it a whole lot more interesting, but I understand their viewpoint.
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Are they only playing r16 in NYC, or are they going all the way to the finals?
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At first I was all like, "cool, WCS AM groups" then I saw all the korean names and I was all like "damn, I must have clicked on the wrong thread" but then I was all like "oh..."
In all seriousness though, I'm really digging the set up. Outside of Polt, its hard to see a clear favorite.
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Whoever made group C should be terminated -_-
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Group C just makes me feel like MLG is trying to screw NA fans T.T
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Who will pay the flight for non-US residents? Organizer or teams?
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Group D is quite good, for NA standards :D 2 purebred Americans vs 1 Korean Terran + 1 faceless guy, sounds pretty interesting.
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On May 10 2013 12:16 Obant wrote: Their reasoning hasn't changed from the start. Best games, by the best players, played live in your timezone. Honestly, I wouldn't care who walked on stage, as long as I got to see amazing games. Previous Blizzcon, NASL and MLG live tournaments have been filled with Koreans too.
That being said, I really would like to see region locks, To me, it would make it a whole lot more interesting, but I understand their viewpoint.
I would happily agree Obant, but the thing is, their reasoning has changed from the start. They realized that they screwed up by not enforcing a strict region-lock, and then tried to cover their mistake (rather than owning up to it) by taking the easy way out . . . "we just want to see the best games".
If the above statement is true, why even bother having a regional divide at all? Why not just invite the top players from a variety of competitions throughout the year to Blizzcon? Logic bomb.
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Group A: NesTea Alicia
Group B: Apocalypse Crank (TheStC played like shit in ro32)
Group C: Scarlett Suppy (maybe Revival over suppy, but I think that suppy and scarlett are gonna help each other in zvz and advance together because scarlett is crazy good in zvp)
Group D: Polt viOlet (if violet is PeGaSuS in KR then he will advance for sure)
Don't doubt me, I have crazy WR in predictions.
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This tournament sucks but actually, I can see the twisted logic in Group C
I said this before but, you give NA fans an out if they just want too watch NA play Korean then they can watch 1 group and not waste time. Lets say Crank goes to Group D. Easily he loses. This is too sad to see for NA fans. 2 NA in 1 group means they have 200% chance at making it as well.
Also look at the group, it has some easy Koreans. Revival I checked him out, hes shitty for a Korean, very beatable. Scarlett is arguably the best player there. Suppy, he is looking very good 4-0 in RO32. Hero I don't know about him but he is really fragile lately on a stage. If he gets beaten by Scarlett, very possible, he could be mentally damaged enough to lose to Suppy.
2 NA advance to RO8 baby. And like Incontrol said, the news isn't Korean wins its Suppy beats TWO Axiom players to go to BO16. You will want to be there if this happens! Facing Koreans is what really gets you viewers, people love underdogs.
2 NA in BO8 will get crazy viewers!
Maybe MLG and Blizzard through their insane logic... actually did the right thing? Still yet to be seen.
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Is this done online or live?
To be honest these WCS tournaments are just not interesting because they arent live.
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On May 10 2013 12:04 SCST wrote: Likely to see an All-Korean round of 8 for the "America WCS" . . .
Blizzard, you watching? Going to weasel out of this PR screw-up somehow? Don't worry, I'm sure you'll think of something creative as an excuse . . .
P.S. Anyone imagining the crowd reaction during Blizzcon when the entire "America" roster walks on stage in front of thousands of Americans and it's all Koreans? Cringe-worthy to think about.
The best players should represent. If americans cant win games to prove they belong, then they dont belong.
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HerO and his all zerg groups. That's good though. He's had these kinda groups before and whether he wins or loses, the matchup in question has always looked very improved by the end of it. And HerO's PvZ for some reason does need a little boost. I honestly believe he could go back to having the best PvZ in the world if he just figured out a solid way to play to his strengths.
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On May 10 2013 14:21 IMSmooth wrote: Is this done online or live?
To be honest these WCS tournaments are just not interesting because they arent live. All of WCS is live. Ro16 and onwards is at a LAN as well.
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lmao, 2 north americans but all the non-NA foreigners advanced. and this is why this would not be an interesting tournament if we had region locking. not to mention the embarassment that would occur in the season finals when the top 5 NA players show up and are sent right back home.
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Group C is death, death of the last "southern" North American (USA). I still voted for Suppy but... HerO and Scarlett, so tough
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WCS NA is such a failure its already funny. Five foreign players, two of those belonging to the SEA region and one from EU. It will not get any better until they made it an complete offline event too (and even then there will be a huge number of koreans attending in the Ro32).
edit:Corrected the number
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Many will probably write me off as hater once again, but I would enjoy a Ro8 with only Koreans. It would not be a failure to me, because I enjoy the highest level of competition. While those Koreans are probably not the definition of highest level (would be GSL Group B) its still the highest you could get there.
I will root for Scarlett and Suppy, both being non-Korean and represent NA, not because I want NA to do well in particular, but because I think they are hard working and "DESERVING". I can see , especially in Scarlett as I don't follow Suppy too much that she is putting time into the game, she's playing well and reflecting on her game (as you can tell, she's removing mistakes) so if they can make it into the Round of 8, that is something to cheer for.
In no way I think foreigners shouldn't be cheered on, but I disagree with cheering them on for nothing. If they work on their game, show improvement and play well, I'll gladly cheer for a foreigner over a Korean any day. That being sad, I hope HerO (hard because same group as Suppy/Scarlett), viOleT and Polt do well.
I also like Ryung and aLive, Group D is a bitch. T_T
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wcs is such a failure.. i would normally be excited for such blizzard sponsored events but this is just a mediocore tournament where Korean who can't compete in korea roll over foreigners... how fun
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On May 10 2013 16:18 Gr33d wrote: WCS NA is such a failure its already funny. Four foreign players, two of those belonging to the SEA region and one from EU. It will not get any better until they made it an complete offline event too (and even then there will be a huge number of koreans attending in the Ro32).
Snute, Scarlett, Suppy, Sen, Moon...that's five foreigners.
As an aside, can we call them 4xS&M?
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On May 10 2013 16:31 SpecialistSc wrote: wcs is such a failure.. i would normally be excited for such blizzard sponsored events but this is just a mediocore tournament where Korean who can't compete in korea roll over foreigners... how fun
Yeah, I'm really enjoying it!
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On May 10 2013 16:31 SpecialistSc wrote: wcs is such a failure.. i would normally be excited for such blizzard sponsored events but this is just a mediocore tournament where Korean who can't compete in korea roll over foreigners... how fun
Ryung nearly all-killed Prime for that matter. Polt played a close 2-3 vs Life. Its not that they cannot compete in Korea. Its that they don't want to, because the chances are just slim compared to playing in NA while the price pool is the same. Its smart.
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If you live in United States, you are American ok? Support American's last hope, aka Polt~!
(Sorry Suppy, I'll consider you once you get a Top 3 from anything major).
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Scarlett and Suppster, I believe! Heart says aforementioned duo, brain says Scarlett and Hero. My brain tends to be right a lot more than my heart, unfortunately.
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On May 10 2013 11:14 Luftmensch wrote:
I didn't even know Scarlett was playing again after that announcement about a 6 month long hiatus.
Pretty sure the hiatus was always intended to be after the current season of WCS\current round in GSTL.
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One American and One Canadian.
WCS America. Sad state of affairs. What has to change?
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On May 10 2013 17:13 zerotol wrote: One American and One Canadian.
WCS America. Sad state of affairs. What has to change?
Have to play better
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NesTea with that sick no terran group, and two ZvZ matches he can play if he loses to Alicia. Looks good for him.
EDIT: WSC AM, not NA. Read the thread title folks.
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Snute, NesTea, TheSTC, Polt!
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On May 10 2013 16:31 SpecialistSc wrote: wcs is such a failure.. i would normally be excited for such blizzard sponsored events but this is just a mediocore tournament where Korean who can't compete in korea roll over foreigners... how fun
Most of the Korean's are capable of competing in Korea. The reason why these Korean's play on AM is because they have a foreign team backing them up. Also there's nothing that suggest it's been a failure so far, the stream numbers have been fairly consistent from the start, not to mention it's not much different from how most tournaments looked during the whole 2012. Maybe let the season play out before you call the end of the world.
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Didn't Scarlett said that she taking a break from SC2?
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On May 10 2013 18:55 Targe wrote: Holy crap group D. group D would be a very average RO32 GSL group but in context of WCS AM it's pretty good haha. i really hope polt and violet make it out of this one
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Suppy will make it out of his group
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On May 10 2013 21:17 Ettick wrote: Suppy will make it out of his group
If he's got good ZvZ, yes. I don't see him beating HerO. I'm not sure how Scarlett's ZvZ is these days but she was freaking good at it in WoL and Revival kinda made his name through ZvZ.
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I like how Group B is voted the "least dangerous" group, when it is easily the second strongest. Crank and TheSTC are the strongest players outside of Group D.
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On May 11 2013 03:47 TronJovolta wrote: I like how Group B is voted the "least dangerous" group, when it is easily the second strongest. Crank and TheSTC are the strongest players outside of Group D.
HerO? you know, the reigning NASL champion? the guy who has won the dreamhack winter championship the last 2 years? Crank and STC are great, but neither have anywhere near the accomplishments. Also there is this guy named Nestea... idk, maybe you havent heard of him? XD
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On May 11 2013 03:47 TronJovolta wrote: I like how Group B is voted the "least dangerous" group, when it is easily the second strongest. Crank and TheSTC are the strongest players outside of Group D. Besides disagreeing with your point (HerO, Revival both are stronger than the whole of B imho), one question is on my mind: wouldn't TronJavolta make more sense?
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It's really excited to see a group full of Koreans in WCS AM! I can't wait to see that group of death.
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group D almost the NA version of Code S group B, so many good players, but still think polt and violet will make it out. other groups are easy, s-koreans should dominate once again =D
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Can't wait/hoping for nestea v sen, moonglade vs crank, suppy vs Scarlett, and polt vs ryung
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On May 10 2013 10:47 opterown wrote: gosh i just finished making fourteen LR OPs time to make four more Putting your star into overtime
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Most went with Group D, but I think Group C is super-nasty.
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I like how the only two players that are actually from North America are in the same group... Lets hope they both make it through XD.
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There are 11 Koreans of this Round of 16... Is this really a WCS America?
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On May 10 2013 13:22 Arceus wrote: Who will pay the flight for non-US residents? Organizer or teams?
Pretty sure blizzard said they would pay for flights of people from within the region only. So the team or player has to pay to get into the region and then blizzard will pay the remainder of the trip if it isn't direct.
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Group A: NesTea and Sen Group B : TheStC and CranK Group C: Hero and Revival Group D: aLive and Ryung
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Group A: > Nestea > Sen
Group B: > Crank > Moonglade
Group C: > Hero > Scarlett
Group D: > Violet > Polt
Italics indicate likely bias in the pick.
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On May 11 2013 05:47 ACrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 03:47 TronJovolta wrote: I like how Group B is voted the "least dangerous" group, when it is easily the second strongest. Crank and TheSTC are the strongest players outside of Group D. Besides disagreeing with your point (HerO, Revival both are stronger than the whole of B imho), one question is on my mind: wouldn't TronJ avolta make more sense?
Aw, man...
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On May 10 2013 11:00 Dexington wrote: I think Sen should make it out of that group, and one of Scarlett or Suppy could make it out of theirs.
This is a pretty bad "Americas" tournament though There is no region lock, get off it. This is a great tourney. The idea is to bolster the scene not to have a tournament for only Americas, I would watch maybe the top 4 of an Americas only tourney. The talent is just not deep enough yet.
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Not too many "natives" in this tournament, but I think it will get better. The GSL did wonders for Korean starcraft. Now you have a major tournament in EU and NA where you get to play a lot of matches and they all get streamed and I do think more of it will be offline in a couple of seasons.
Anyway, there are more Norwegians in the US than there are in Norway, so why aren't you Americans rooting for Snute? He is practially American.
GoGo Snute!
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I'm pulling for Suppy and Hero to make it out of Group C.
I think Scarlett's wrist issues haven't fully eased up and I'm basically praying that Suppy's ZvZ is solid enough to beat Revival... but make it so!
Not to mention I think Scarlett's going to have a hard time with HerO considering the state of balance (nerfed Infestors, safer Protoss) and how well the different races have adapted. I'm not saying one race is OP, but that Zergs might have a little more to learn / change given the severity of their nerf/buff ratio.
HerO > Scarlett Suppy > Revival
Scarlett > Revival HerO > Suppy
Suppy > Scarlett (I'm rooting, not likely but I'm rooting).
I just really want Suppy to win Not to mention my wallet endorsements of EG have gone up recently, so SUPPY!!
But I wouldn't even chance to guess Group D. Polt v Ryung? I'm not even gonna liquibet.
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