EPTMajOr and HerO forced to play WCS Matches on NA? - Page 5
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25520 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:13 looknohands119 wrote: Wax, I hate to diasgree with you but Blizzard wants to incentivize Korean players to actually physically move elsewhere. I don't see requiring NA server play to be that unreasonable of a requirement given their stated goals. HerO didn't even have to qualify, he got a seed. Where have Blizzard been trying to incentivise Koreans to move over, in anything else they have done? | ||
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seodoth
Netherlands317 Posts
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Mordiford
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On May 01 2013 11:12 Waxangel wrote: well I've enjoyed how a topic about how MLG has an obligation to offer the most competitive environment and highest level of games possible to the viewers had turned into a thread where people complain about Korean players being allowed to play in NA and wanting them to be punished in whatever way shape or form. The topic includes all these considerations, the setup of WCS seemed to have specific goals in addition the immediate goal of providing high quality competitive games for viewers. I'm fine with Koreans succeeding and stomping foreigners until the end of time but that was not what I saw the original pitch of WCS to be. I'm glad they're sticking to their region specific model and I'm fine with it being inconvenient for players outside the region to play in WCS NA. | ||
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:11 SimDawg wrote: Are you kidding? The reason is it's a NA tournament. You are giving way too much credit to the best game possible. We can find better games in ZOTAC VODs. WCS NA is interesting for an entirely different reason. what does NA tournement mean exactly? as the basis of your argument. 75% of the players dont live on the north american continent. the qualifiers that add additional players into the league for future seasons are open entry. the fact there is no true offline option for the play means that its a borderless league either way. so what exactly is the foundation for its an NA tourney beyond the fact its called wcs NA? theres no deep seeted system or history that makes it NA. so what exactly do you mean by that? we can invite people half a world away, we can play over the internet, we can have open qualifiers, but making a sensible adjustment to increase the quality of the tourney, at no detriment to anyone is a step too far in your book? this, of all the problems with WCS is the straw the breaks it for you? really? | ||
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seodoth
Netherlands317 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:12 R1CH wrote: The only people it punishes are the viewers, who get to watch top players play safe and possibly boring games due to risk of lag. One of them is going to advance regardless, why not have the highest possible quality games? Makes no sense given how trivial it is to switch regions in HotS. what about a korean vs someone from NA? | ||
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geokilla
Canada8240 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Not complain about rules they were of when they were aware of. | ||
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eronica
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Obvisouly on NA server, but this is not the case, it's KR/KR | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25520 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:16 Mordiford wrote: The topic includes all these considerations, the setup of WCS seemed to have specific goals in addition the immediate goal of providing high quality competitive games for viewers. I'm fine with Koreans succeeding and stomping foreigners until the end of time but that was not what I saw the original pitch of WCS to be. I'm glad they're sticking to their region specific model and I'm fine with it being inconvenient for players outside the region to play in WCS NA. How the fuck are they sticking to any kind of region-specific model? Do a residency requirement (which I was all for, and indeed most people assumed they would do), do something, don't give out invites to half of EGTL and Nestea if you want to maintain the NA region identity. But no, just make people in Kr play on laggy connections, out of all the things you could do, makes close to no difference. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2396 Posts
What does MLG gain out of it? It's not like they're setting a dangerous precedent or anything. If they're near the same area and would like to play on their local server, why not allow them to do it? | ||
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Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:16 Mordiford wrote: The topic includes all these considerations, the setup of WCS seemed to have specific goals in addition the immediate goal of providing high quality competitive games for viewers. I'm fine with Koreans succeeding and stomping foreigners until the end of time but that was not what I saw the original pitch of WCS to be. I'm glad they're sticking to their region specific model and I'm fine with it being inconvenient for players outside the region to play in WCS NA. It's perfectly fine that it be inconvenient for players outside NA - Play games at NA times and on NA server. However, we have two Koreans here, nobody in NA is being unfairly treated by having them play against each other on KR. All the other matchups would be played on NA. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:17 Plansix wrote: Not complain about rules they were of when they were aware of. so your solution for mlg having problems (yet again) is for players to boycott the league, losing out money they need to earn a living, and killing the viewer experience. so that mlg admins dont have to do their job? | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Quality of games should be chief. If two KR players want to play KR they should. If one is NA then YEAH NA takes priority. | ||
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
Awesome how biased and sensational the OP is though! =) | ||
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FSKi
United States901 Posts
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Mordiford
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On May 01 2013 11:18 Thrax wrote: It's perfectly fine that it be inconvenient for players outside NA - Play games at NA times and on NA server. However, we have two Koreans here, nobody in NA is being unfairly treated by having them play against each other on KR. All the other matchups would be played on NA. Nope... I'm fine with it being inconvenient all around for anyone outside of the region playing in WCS for a specific region, even when both players are in the same location. I think Wombat_NI offered the best counterargument to me personally in the sense that it's already so royally fucked up with all the invites outside of a specific region that were given out that this move seems trivial and almost petty. Even so, I'm fine with any step maintaining what little is left of region specificity being taken. On May 01 2013 11:19 turdburgler wrote: so your solution for mlg having problems (yet again) is for players to boycott the league, losing out money they need to earn a living, and killing the viewer experience. so that mlg admins dont have to do their job? Technically they are doing their jobs by enforcing the rules of the league. | ||
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YourAdHere
United States216 Posts
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