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MajOr and HerO forced to play WCS Matches on NA?

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33418 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 07:40:23
May 01 2013 01:49 GMT
#1


"@8th_MajOr
so @MLG is going to make me play my matches on NA server vs liquidhero i wonder who came up with such bullshit we both live in korea atm .."


According to MajOr's tweet, he and HerO will have to play their WCS America matches against each other on the NA server, despite the fact that they both reside in Korea. While it would be an even playing field for both players since they would both deal with the lag of playing from KR to NA, the overall quality of play would undoubtedly be affected.

While that's probably technically correct if you're following the rules of the tournament to the letter, it's a remarkably inflexible decision.

It degrades the WCS tournament by knowingly allowing the level of competition to be lowered, is a discourtesy to the players who want to be able to fully show the skills they have honed through hundreds of hours of practice, and is a disservice to the fans who are expecting the be shown the highest level of gameplay possible.

When you consider that region switching is even built into the HotS client, then it's an even more confusing and perplexing decision. Hopefully both players have protested and have had the decision changed.
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UniquE.
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada143 Posts
May 01 2013 01:52 GMT
#2
wow gj mlg
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
May 01 2013 01:53 GMT
#3
How surprising.
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Jormundr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1678 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 01:56:25
May 01 2013 01:54 GMT
#4
On May 01 2013 10:49 Waxangel wrote:
https://twitter.com/8th_MajOr/status/328556801756901378

Show nested quote +
"@8th_MajOr
so @MLG is going to make me play my matches on NA server vs liquidhero i wonder who came up with such bullshit we both live in korea atm .."


According to MajOr's tweet, he and HerO will have to play their WCS America matches on the NA server, despite the fact that they both reside in Korea.

While that's probably technically correct if you're following the rules of the tournament to the letter, it's a remarkably inflexible decision.

It degrades the WCS tournament by knowingly allowing the level of competition to be lowered, is a discourtesy to the players who want to be able to fully show the skills they have honed through hundreds of hours of practice, and is a disservice to the fans who are expecting the be shown the highest level of gameplay possible.

When you consider that region switching is even built into the HotS client, then it's an even more confusing and perplexing decision. Hopefully both players have protested and have had the decision changed.

It's WCS NA. It's for whoever is better at playing on the NA server. Maybe instead of complaining about playing WCS NA on the NA server, they could play WCS KR on the KR server. It's a deterrent, because it adds uncertainty to the game. I fully support even stronger deterrents against cross region play.

Simile:
It's like joining a Chinese debate team and then complaining that they don't debate in English.
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Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
May 01 2013 01:55 GMT
#5
Hey, Sundance apologized and said MLG would fix these problems. Are you calling him a liar?!



Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
May 01 2013 01:55 GMT
#6
I'm gonna say that their decision is fine and consistent with Blizzard's stance on regions. Although it makes sense, NA players should be treated as in NA region.
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Griznah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway65 Posts
May 01 2013 01:55 GMT
#7
MLG strikes again!
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Ravensong170
Profile Joined June 2012
United States858 Posts
May 01 2013 01:55 GMT
#8
I'm fine with this. Its an NA event, and is thusly played on the NA server. Part of this was to discourage people who didn't want to deal with the ping.

So they are keeping to the rules. I think that's fine and acceptable.

They want to compete in WCS NA. They have to play on NA server, regardless if they have better ping on Korean server.
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9022 Posts
May 01 2013 01:55 GMT
#9
I can understand though. Rules are rules.
Kurbz
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia88 Posts
May 01 2013 01:57 GMT
#10
Well this just follows how WCS NA has been run from the get go; inflexible with no leeway for any situation. Really disappointed with the constant crap coming from WCS NA.
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Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
May 01 2013 01:57 GMT
#11
Good.

If you want to play in the wrong qualifier, you have to play with the lag that comes with that, even if your opponent happens to be in the same city as you on the wrong side of the world.
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PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
May 01 2013 01:58 GMT
#12
I agree with MLG's decision. It's WCS NA. They chose NA, they should play on NA.
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
May 01 2013 01:58 GMT
#13
On May 01 2013 10:55 Garnet wrote:
I can understand though. Rules are rules.


Rules are made by people. People are supposed to be intelligent enough to know when the rules should apply.

Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
May 01 2013 01:58 GMT
#14
It's WCS NA, not "WCS NA, as played on KR". I see no problem with this.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 01 2013 01:58 GMT
#15
On May 01 2013 10:54 Jormundr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 10:49 Waxangel wrote:
https://twitter.com/8th_MajOr/status/328556801756901378

"@8th_MajOr
so @MLG is going to make me play my matches on NA server vs liquidhero i wonder who came up with such bullshit we both live in korea atm .."


According to MajOr's tweet, he and HerO will have to play their WCS America matches on the NA server, despite the fact that they both reside in Korea.

While that's probably technically correct if you're following the rules of the tournament to the letter, it's a remarkably inflexible decision.

It degrades the WCS tournament by knowingly allowing the level of competition to be lowered, is a discourtesy to the players who want to be able to fully show the skills they have honed through hundreds of hours of practice, and is a disservice to the fans who are expecting the be shown the highest level of gameplay possible.

When you consider that region switching is even built into the HotS client, then it's an even more confusing and perplexing decision. Hopefully both players have protested and have had the decision changed.

It's WCS NA. It's for whoever is better at playing on the NA server. Maybe instead of complaining about playing WCS NA on the NA server, they could play WCS KR on the KR server. It's a deterrent, because it adds uncertainty to the game. I fully support even stronger deterrents against cross region play.

Simile:
It's like joining a Chinese debate team and then complaining that they don't debate in English.

But one of the goals for Blizzard was that there would be this mix in players, they don't want deterrents.

Also your simile suggests that Korea and NA are equal in terms of playability. They are not. It's more and English debate team complaining about only being allowed to use four-letter words
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 01 2013 01:58 GMT
#16
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 01 2013 01:58 GMT
#17
i don't think this is a big issue
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Ravensong170
Profile Joined June 2012
United States858 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 02:01:39
May 01 2013 01:58 GMT
#18

It's WCS NA. It's for whoever is better at playing on the NA server. Maybe instead of complaining about playing WCS NA on the NA server, they could play WCS KR on the KR server. It's a deterrent, because it adds uncertainty to the game. I fully support even stronger deterrents against cross region play.


THis. A hundred times this. Hero, in my opinion shouldn't be competeing in WCS NA, nor should many of the koreans. Just stifling the NA scene. (inb4 but NA SUX LOLROFLOMGHAXORS). Making it even MORE difficult for NA players to continue to pursue a professional gaming career, doesn't help the international growth of SC2 at all.
"what a terrible ass game, we should all kill ourselves." -EE-Sama
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
May 01 2013 01:58 GMT
#19
lt's WCS NA so it should be played on the na server.
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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
May 01 2013 01:59 GMT
#20
Totally respect MLGs decision. If you wanted to play without lag Major you should have signed up for KR not NA. Anyhow, Hero is gonna have the same latency issues.
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