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DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
May 01 2013 01:59 GMT
#21
Rules are rules and we should follow them to the best of our ability but this is silly.
Verator
Profile Joined June 2010
United States283 Posts
May 01 2013 01:59 GMT
#22
I actually support this, it further punishes people for playing outside of their home region. Such a choice should be at a personal deficit, as it encourages home competition.
So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence. -- Bertrand Russell
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
May 01 2013 01:59 GMT
#23
On May 01 2013 10:58 Spektor wrote:
I agree with MLG's decision. It's WCS NA. They chose NA, they should play on NA.


That's idiotic. What advantage is there to making them play on the NA server? None. All it will do is reduce the quality of the games.

Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 01 2013 02:00 GMT
#24
It sucks for players, but as a spectator/fan that doesn't want to see WCS NA be a korean slaughter fest, I agree with the decision. If you want "easy wins/money/points", be prepared to make sacrifices. Even if it's korean vs korean (location wise), they made a choice
Refer to my post.
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
May 01 2013 02:00 GMT
#25
There is no good reason to have two players play on a particular server when they both agree, and want, to play on another. Especially considering the fact that the tournament is open to any player in any region...AND that by playing on a different server (NA) they will not be able to play to their full potential.

It never ends with MLG...it never ends..
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33660 Posts
May 01 2013 02:01 GMT
#26
On May 01 2013 10:54 Jormundr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 10:49 Waxangel wrote:


"@8th_MajOr
so @MLG is going to make me play my matches on NA server vs liquidhero i wonder who came up with such bullshit we both live in korea atm .."


According to MajOr's tweet, he and HerO will have to play their WCS America matches on the NA server, despite the fact that they both reside in Korea.

While that's probably technically correct if you're following the rules of the tournament to the letter, it's a remarkably inflexible decision.

It degrades the WCS tournament by knowingly allowing the level of competition to be lowered, is a discourtesy to the players who want to be able to fully show the skills they have honed through hundreds of hours of practice, and is a disservice to the fans who are expecting the be shown the highest level of gameplay possible.

When you consider that region switching is even built into the HotS client, then it's an even more confusing and perplexing decision. Hopefully both players have protested and have had the decision changed.

It's WCS NA. It's for whoever is better at playing on the NA server.


Actually, you made that up.

AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 01 2013 02:01 GMT
#27
I mean... it's the rules. It's not like they are both playing each other on EU from KR. Sure it's a little inconvenient but it probably wont change the result of the game.
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PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
May 01 2013 02:01 GMT
#28
On May 01 2013 10:59 Empirimancer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 10:58 Spektor wrote:
I agree with MLG's decision. It's WCS NA. They chose NA, they should play on NA.


That's idiotic. What advantage is there to making them play on the NA server? None. All it will do is reduce the quality of the games.


It's their choice. Also, the rules. People complain about it not being complete region lock, and when they lock the region people play, people continue to complain.
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 02:03:18
May 01 2013 02:01 GMT
#29
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oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
May 01 2013 02:02 GMT
#30
I honestly don't see what the problem is. It's WCS NA. If you're going to play outside your region either move or deal with the lag.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33660 Posts
May 01 2013 02:02 GMT
#31
So you people WANT to watch sub-par games?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
May 01 2013 02:02 GMT
#32
On May 01 2013 10:59 Verator wrote:
I actually support this, it further punishes people for playing outside of their home region. Such a choice should be at a personal deficit, as it encourages home competition.


What about people out of the country because they want to train in Korea, or because they participated in an European or Korean tournament during a week-end and haven't had the time (or the energy) to get back home, or because they want to help their team win a team league, such as Proleague?
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
May 01 2013 02:03 GMT
#33
On May 01 2013 11:02 Waxangel wrote:
So you people WANT to watch sub-par games?


I do, but only because I want MLG to get yelled at some more until they learn to stop being this way.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 01 2013 02:03 GMT
#34
On May 01 2013 11:02 Waxangel wrote:
So you people WANT to watch sub-par games?

WCS AM was always going to be pretty sub-par anyway tbh
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
May 01 2013 02:03 GMT
#35
On May 01 2013 11:02 Waxangel wrote:
So you people WANT to watch sub-par games?

No, they want all the Koreans and Mexicans stealing their jobs to suffer.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 01 2013 02:04 GMT
#36
On May 01 2013 11:02 Empirimancer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 10:59 Verator wrote:
I actually support this, it further punishes people for playing outside of their home region. Such a choice should be at a personal deficit, as it encourages home competition.


What about people out of the country because they want to train in Korea, or because they participated in an European or Korean tournament during a week-end and haven't had the time (or the energy) to get back home, or because they want to help their team win a team league, such as Proleague?

foreigners aren't going to be helping any team win a korean team league any time soon
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6320 Posts
May 01 2013 02:04 GMT
#37
On May 01 2013 10:54 Jormundr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 10:49 Waxangel wrote:
https://twitter.com/8th_MajOr/status/328556801756901378

"@8th_MajOr
so @MLG is going to make me play my matches on NA server vs liquidhero i wonder who came up with such bullshit we both live in korea atm .."


According to MajOr's tweet, he and HerO will have to play their WCS America matches on the NA server, despite the fact that they both reside in Korea.

While that's probably technically correct if you're following the rules of the tournament to the letter, it's a remarkably inflexible decision.

It degrades the WCS tournament by knowingly allowing the level of competition to be lowered, is a discourtesy to the players who want to be able to fully show the skills they have honed through hundreds of hours of practice, and is a disservice to the fans who are expecting the be shown the highest level of gameplay possible.

When you consider that region switching is even built into the HotS client, then it's an even more confusing and perplexing decision. Hopefully both players have protested and have had the decision changed.

It's WCS NA. It's for whoever is better at playing on the NA server. Maybe instead of complaining about playing WCS NA on the NA server, they could play WCS KR on the KR server. It's a deterrent, because it adds uncertainty to the game.

Well, it's not that much uncertainty. One of them has to win the match. That's the inevitable result of them being paired against each other. One player residing in KR but playing on NA will end up in the winner's match of Group A.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
May 01 2013 02:04 GMT
#38
On May 01 2013 11:03 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 11:02 Waxangel wrote:
So you people WANT to watch sub-par games?

WCS AM was always going to be pretty sub-par anyway tbh


That's not a counter to Wax's argument.

starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
May 01 2013 02:04 GMT
#39
I agree w/ MLG on this. If you want to play WCS NA then you're on NA. Deal with it.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 02:06:31
May 01 2013 02:04 GMT
#40
On May 01 2013 11:02 Waxangel wrote:
So you people WANT to watch sub-par games?


I watch WCS on and off anyway, so there's no guarantee that I'll even watch these games. I do want WCS NA to played on the NA server though. Call me crazy.

And to be specific. Yes, I'd rather watch sub-par games on the NA server that'll further cement the region specificity of WCS, because that was the whole point of WCS and is something that WCS is already kind of failing at.
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