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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 01 2013 02:05 GMT
#41
On May 01 2013 11:02 Waxangel wrote:
So you people WANT to watch sub-par games?

I want reasons to exist that add to decisions whether Koreans partake in WCS NA or KR, however minor or not they may be
Refer to my post.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
May 01 2013 02:05 GMT
#42
No one forced Major to sign up for WCS NA from Korea. Should pay the price for picking the weakest WCG region to get more money while benefiting from practicing against the superior Koreans.
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
May 01 2013 02:05 GMT
#43
Seems like people just want to find excuses to hate at this point. These are rules. Play in the Korean WCS if they want low latency...oh wait...
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
May 01 2013 02:06 GMT
#44
Shame, it will only make games worse for no reason.
Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
May 01 2013 02:06 GMT
#45
Seems pretty silly if they're both in agreement about which server to play on, especially since it doesn't benefit one player over the other. I mean, if it's a player in Korea playing a player in NA or something then of course it should be on NA server, but when both players are in Korea, it just inconveniences both players for really no reason.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 01 2013 02:06 GMT
#46
On May 01 2013 11:05 Sub40APM wrote:
No one forced Major to sign up for WCS NA from Korea. Should pay the price for picking the weakest WCG region to get more money while benefiting from practicing against the superior Koreans.

what would you do in his position?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 01 2013 02:07 GMT
#47
On May 01 2013 11:02 Waxangel wrote:
So you people WANT to watch sub-par games?

cant be much worse than some of the games we are already seeing
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FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 02:09:13
May 01 2013 02:07 GMT
#48
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Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
May 01 2013 02:07 GMT
#49
On May 01 2013 11:04 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 11:02 Waxangel wrote:
So you people WANT to watch sub-par games?


I watch WCS on and off anyway, so there's no guarantee that I'll even watch these games. I do want WCS NA to played on the NA server though. Call me crazy.


You're crazy. You haven't said why you want them to play on the NA server. The only reason anyone's given is that there are the words 'North' and 'America' both in WCS North America and in North America server.

MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 22:48:14
May 01 2013 02:07 GMT
#50
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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2548 Posts
May 01 2013 02:07 GMT
#51
I'm neutral about this, they decided to play on WCS NA then it's very logic that the games needs to play on NA server, but on the other hands if both lives in Korea and since it's really easy to switch servers... I mean why not? Rules are like laws, some are very stupid and should not exist.
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Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
May 01 2013 02:07 GMT
#52
Gotta love zero tolerance rules. Everyone get's screwed by them eventually. If there are two people in the same region other than NA there should be zero reason why they can't play on that regions server for a better game quality for EVERYONE and hurts nobody. People in different regions would clearly still have to connect to the NA server so that neither gain an advantage or properly gain the NA advantage. Sucks for them and sucks for all of us.
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
May 01 2013 02:07 GMT
#53
On May 01 2013 11:02 Waxangel wrote:
So you people WANT to watch sub-par games?

by definition when a Code S Korean plays a foreigner not named Naniwa or Stephano the games will be sub par.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
May 01 2013 02:08 GMT
#54
On May 01 2013 11:06 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 11:05 Sub40APM wrote:
No one forced Major to sign up for WCS NA from Korea. Should pay the price for picking the weakest WCG region to get more money while benefiting from practicing against the superior Koreans.

what would you do in his position?


Suck it up or try for WCS Korea since he is going to be in Korea for the foreseeable future.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
May 01 2013 02:08 GMT
#55
Everyone understands that once this series is over the player who wins will be playing on NA next round in what will be a cross server match right? This has literally no effect other than ensuring the best player wins, and the fans get the best game possible for this particular match. It's completely in a vacuum, it would be a rather silly decision to knowingly lower the potential of your games for no reason other than because your rule book didn't consider it beforehand.

No one has presented a reason for this to be on NA that makes the least bit of sense.
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 01 2013 02:08 GMT
#56
On May 01 2013 11:06 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 11:05 Sub40APM wrote:
No one forced Major to sign up for WCS NA from Korea. Should pay the price for picking the weakest WCG region to get more money while benefiting from practicing against the superior Koreans.

what would you do in his position?

Play on NA. Doesn't mean he should complain when things aren't convenient for him because he lives in Korea.
Refer to my post.
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
May 01 2013 02:08 GMT
#57
On May 01 2013 11:02 Waxangel wrote:
So you people WANT to watch sub-par games?


This has so little to do with this rule its nuts. Who is watching WCS NA to see stellar gameplay? I really feel like you posted that tweet because of some hate against MLG. It's completely standard to make these guys play on NA. Otherwise it's not the WCS NA.

These guys made a decision for easy money, make sure they play at 2am and cross server.
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
May 01 2013 02:08 GMT
#58
Don't know why people are so angry. This is WCS NA. The games are played on the NA server to prioritize NA players. I can respect MLG sticking to their rules about playing on a single server.
And it's not like either hero or major will have an advantage. They'll ping the same amount.
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
May 01 2013 02:09 GMT
#59
On May 01 2013 11:05 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 11:02 Waxangel wrote:
So you people WANT to watch sub-par games?

I want reasons to exist that add to decisions whether Koreans partake in WCS NA or KR, however minor or not they may be


Those reasons should be things that won't affect the quality of the games.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 02:11:53
May 01 2013 02:09 GMT
#60
On May 01 2013 11:01 Spektor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2013 10:59 Empirimancer wrote:
On May 01 2013 10:58 Spektor wrote:
I agree with MLG's decision. It's WCS NA. They chose NA, they should play on NA.


That's idiotic. What advantage is there to making them play on the NA server? None. All it will do is reduce the quality of the games.


It's their choice. Also, the rules. People complain about it not being complete region lock, and when they lock the region people play, people continue to complain.


having a rule set that is arbitrary in nature sets a bad precedent that MLG/WCS will sacrifice the quality of their tournament for no gain. this isnt some balance of pros and cons, or some high minded idea for unification or quality control. its being pissy for the sake of it.

On May 01 2013 11:07 MrCash wrote:
MLG can't win.
If they allow KR server play, people will blame them for ruining the "NA WCS" for not being NA friendly etc etc.

I completely understand why MLG doesn't bother responding to most of these drama-esque complaints, unless they hit critical mass.


so the validity of arguments are about their popularity and not their merit? NA WCS is already not american enough to guarantee a single american in the ro16, so i dont think a single person views it as american friendly.

so what does that leave in the pro status quo box, admins cba?
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