EPTMajOr and HerO forced to play WCS Matches on NA? - Page 7
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fuzzylogic44
Canada2633 Posts
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Yamoth
United States315 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:24 Chairman Ray wrote: I notice a lot of people here agreeing with the decision because WCS NA is geographically correlated with the NA server. However that's a fairly poor reason to support the decision. The geographic location of the server should have absolutely no bearing on the game. As far as I'm concerned, the only correlation between the NA server and WCS NA is that they have the characters "NA" in their name. MLG should allow players to choose whatever server they want, and default it to NA if there is a conflict. This. I understand people siding with MLG if one player wants to play on NA server and another on Korean server. Why would MLG want to go against this decision what it is beneficial to both player and doesn't require any extra resources or effort from MLG side. I think MLG just went full retard on this one. | ||
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:31 Waxangel wrote: Everyone saying something like this is only making assumptions  Well even if we are, I would respectfully say screw all other opinions in the matter, because if my assumption isn't correct then what the hell is the WCS? Might as well say fuck it. | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:32 shmget wrote: MLG is casting the event live. why should the casters, the admins/referee should have account on KR to cast a NA tournament ? why should they take the risk of the admin crew causing lag... or worse the source of the feed... how would that look if the feed has to disconnect to let them play ? Beside the idea seems to try to find and/or bring into each region enough talents to offer a world-class tournament. The more they can do to encourage the players to physically move to the region they want to compete into the better. That would achieve one of the thing the proponent of nationalist quota are arguing: vitalize and raise the level of the local server. Furthermore Blizzard already hinted that their goal is to turn as much of the tournament as possible into a offline event... so that particular scenario is bound to disappear by the virtue of all players eventually being in the same studio in the US. Because Blizzard gave them all one for free. Pretty good reason imo. | ||
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FSKi
United States901 Posts
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BakedButters
United States748 Posts
Some people are saying playing solely on NA server would deter Koreans from joining NA next season. How? There is no advantage/disadvantage to either Hero or Major, except they will have to show lower skilled games for fans. It wouldn't deter Koreans from joining because they know they have to play with a disadvantage lag on NA server against NA pros anyways until Ro16 onwards, but with two people living in KR to play with lag vs. no lag that gives no advantages to either player? no reason. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:12 Waxangel wrote: well I've enjoyed how a topic about how MLG has an obligation to offer the most competitive environment and highest level of games possible to the viewers had turned into a thread where people complain about Korean players being allowed to play in NA and wanting them to be punished in whatever way shape or form. Dramatic? Some people get the idea that a rule can be written that says "all matches must be played on the NA server" | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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TiberiusAk
United States122 Posts
So, if the quality is going to be ruined by lag whenever there is cross-continent play (even if both players are on the remote continent, but the casters are not), you might as well have the rule that players always play on AM. If someone has experience with observer lag vs player lag please share your knowledge to help confirm/deny this. Edit: "only reason" -> "best reason" There's plenty of bad reasons I can think of, and people have discussed those to death.  | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
It's not for whoever is better at the NA server... the server should have zero relevance if the two people reside in the same city. WCS should be about getting the highest quality of play. I totally support making NA server the mandatory one when you have KR/NA players, but if it's KR/KR, I don't see the point in forcing HerO and Major to play worse. What would playing on KR server for one match do to harm the players residing in NA? | ||
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Maasked
United States567 Posts
Its only fair that the North American tournament is played on the North American server. | ||
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
Also think about long term guys. There are going to be a ton of KR vs KR matches in the weeks to come in WCS America... do we really want them all to be lagtastic when they don't have to be? | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
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naux
Canada738 Posts
On May 01 2013 10:58 Archas wrote: It's WCS NA, not "WCS NA, as played on KR". I see no problem with this. Me either, playing in NA WCS so play on NA server. | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
Lower skilled games? Oh please...saving this one isn`t going to make much of a difference to my viewing experience, when I know there is going to be a ton of koreans playing non-koreans the entire year on the NA server. Not to mention the huge skill gap....which is even worse to see. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:31 SimDawg wrote: People act like this is some horrible insult to viewers. Its not. What MLG has done, is make it inconvenient for players playing from Korea. That means that if we eventually have 32 players and they all live in Korea and they're all playing from Korea? It's still going to suck for them, and they will be discouraged from sticking to Korea and playing online across the world. At the pace it is currently going you could easily have most of the players living in Korea and playing from Korea, beating everyone else into the ground. But if their prize money is screwed up slightly more due to latency, etc? Great, it gives them more to think about. That is an incredibly stupid thing to say. Latency should never even be a factor in the game, but due to how "servers" works and how there isn't LAN and how no one wants to fly over to another country, it's played online. Using latency as a way to "punish" Koreans (or anyone who is not close to NA server) is absolutely absurd. I'm pretty sure Korean's punishment for playing WCS NA is that they already have inconvenient play times (I believe?). This would be an understandable situation if one of the players was actually IN NA right now (Funny thing is, Major is -FROM- North America and he wants KR server!) then their decision on the matter would be fair, but that is not the case. They are both in Korea right now, and must suffer due to it. The quality of the games should always be the highest priority. Like what happened with Lucifron in DH (with Yugioh and Strelok I believe..), he actually was knocked out of the tournament by a random "draw" since they tied 3 times. It's pointless and does not properly reflect the skill of the player (or who the better player is). | ||
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IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
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netherDrake
Singapore1831 Posts
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