EPTMajOr and HerO forced to play WCS Matches on NA? - Page 6
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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FSKi
United States901 Posts
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:21 Hall0wed wrote: Sounds 100% reasonable, if you want to play WCS NA you should play on NA servers. I hope MLG does not change this decision. And the benefit of making them play against each other on the NA server is.. what? | ||
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Thrax
Canada1755 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:22 Mordiford wrote: Nope... I'm fine with it being inconvenient all around for anyone outside of the region playing in WCS for a specific region, even when both players are in the same location. I think Wombat_NI offered the best counterargument to me personally in the sense that it's already so royally fucked up with all the invites outside of a specific region that were given out that this move seems trivial and almost petty. Even so, I'm fine with any step maintaining what little is left or region specificity to be taken. It's equally inconvenient to both players though, so nobody is gaining or losing an advantage. The disadvantage only applies when they will get matched against NA players. The real losers will likely be the viewers who won't be seeing the best games possible. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
If you didn't want Koreans in their tournament, Blizzard should have region locked it. They didn't, and instead even outsourced production to MLG, and they can do what they want. Just don't think it's the right decision. | ||
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Highcounsel
United States132 Posts
Anyway, I obviously agree with Wax, as this just make absolutely no sense. We are just going to get less quality games. I guess didn't have anything much to offer, I was just shocked at first by how much people were supporting MLG | ||
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Blargh
United States2103 Posts
Honestly, are any of you stupid enough to think that playing on a server which ideally should be latency free (LAN) in the first place, matters? There shouldn't be ANY lag. The location of the server has NOTHING to do with what the tournament is about. If this is the type of shit people "care about" then I seriously do not even give a shit about the SC2 community. We're clearly too far gone (plagued with retardation). No, this isn't a big issue optertown, but when it's stacked onto the NUMEROUS other things that are "not a big issue" you have a really fucking shitastic tournament that sucks cock. I don't think anyone wants to have a really fucking shitastic tournament that sucks cock. | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
Basically I think that so long as both players can agree to play their matches on one server and the other parties (referee, observer) have access to that server then they should be allowed to play on it. Obviously when it's NA player vs KR player it should be defaulted to the NA server, though | ||
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:16 turdburgler wrote: what does NA tournement mean exactly? as the basis of your argument. 75% of the players dont live on the north american continent. the qualifiers that add additional players into the league for future seasons are open entry. the fact there is no true offline option for the play means that its a borderless league either way. so what exactly is the foundation for its an NA tourney beyond the fact its called wcs NA? theres no deep seeted system or history that makes it NA. so what exactly do you mean by that? we can invite people half a world away, we can play over the internet, we can have open qualifiers, but making a sensible adjustment to increase the quality of the tourney, at no detriment to anyone is a step too far in your book? this, of all the problems with WCS is the straw the breaks it for you? really? Its WCS NA. It's not like its some NASL tournament where its just another thing but the company is headquartered in America. This is supposed to be THE place for American players. And if you think that oh it's called WCS NA but who gives a shit we have the interwebs, then fine, but I definitely think you're position is infinitely more ridiculous than you could ever imagine. | ||
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BAAEEMM
Germany412 Posts
The literally only reason to have two players play on NA when both of them are in KR is to be dicks about a situation that we currently can't change anyway. The games are going to be played either way and the players are already locked for the year. NOTHING is going to change that. What's the point in forcing them to play under conditions that will deteriorate the quality of the games? | ||
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ROOTIllusion
United States1060 Posts
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yrt123
Singapore1246 Posts
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FSKi
United States901 Posts
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Rainling
United States456 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
Poor major, too >_> | ||
Waxangel
United States33578 Posts
On May 01 2013 11:27 SimDawg wrote: Its WCS NA. It's not like its some NASL tournament where its just another thing but the company is headquartered in America. This is supposed to be THE place for American players. Everyone saying something like this is only making assumptions  | ||
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
What MLG has done, is make it inconvenient for players playing from Korea. That means that if we eventually have 32 players and they all live in Korea and they're all playing from Korea? It's still going to suck for them, and they will be discouraged from sticking to Korea and playing online across the world. At the pace it is currently going you could easily have most of the players living in Korea and playing from Korea, beating everyone else into the ground. But if their prize money is screwed up slightly more due to latency, etc? Great, it gives them more to think about. | ||
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masakenji
Australia415 Posts
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shmget
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On May 01 2013 10:49 Waxangel wrote: While that's probably technically correct if you're following the rules of the tournament to the letter, it's a remarkably inflexible decision. MLG is casting the event live. why should the casters, the admins/referee should have account on KR to cast a NA tournament ? why should they take the risk of the admin crew causing lag... or worse the source of the feed... how would that look if the feed has to disconnect to let them play ? Beside the idea seems to try to find and/or bring into each region enough talents to offer a world-class tournament. The more they can do to encourage the players to physically move to the region they want to compete into the better. That would achieve one of the thing the proponent of nationalist quota are arguing: vitalize and raise the level of the local server. Furthermore Blizzard already hinted that their goal is to turn as much of the tournament as possible into a offline event... so that particular scenario is bound to disappear by the virtue of all players eventually being in the same studio in the US. | ||
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