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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 10 2013 10:03 GMT
#301
On April 10 2013 19:01 TBO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:52 YuiHirasawa wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:50 SilentShout wrote:
Hmm. MVP and co. will have easier competition, but worse lag. So that balances it out a bit? Still a rather smart decision by those 6, IMO.


That's wrong.
20 European players can potentially kill Mvp.

NA only have Scarlett.


I don't think 20 EU players can kill Mvp in a bo3/bo5, look at IEM.


I think way more than 20 players can kill him in online qualifiers where he is going to play with heavy lag


99.9999% sure he's seeded into premier, no qualifiers.
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
April 10 2013 10:03 GMT
#302
Tey took our jerbs rabble rabble rabble...

Ah well, at least NA will be interesting to watch now. :D
The one thing that bothers me is good players leaving GSL, but there is so much talent ready to take their places it's probably gonna be fine.
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 10 2013 10:03 GMT
#303
Looks like the NA WCS might be worth watching. Hurrah!
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
April 10 2013 10:03 GMT
#304
I think what is overlooked during all this Koreans-invade-everything discussion is that, with the new rules, there will be practically no foreigners trying to get into GSL/OSL any more. Pretty much no foreigner tried to get into Code A this time around, which is kinda sad.


I was told I can't try to play code a for gsl today/tomorrow or else I wouldnt be able to participate in WCS NA/EU, yet its fine to code s?
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 10 2013 10:04 GMT
#305
On April 10 2013 19:03 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 19:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 10 2013 19:01 Ammoth wrote:
How is EG-TL in proleague gonna work out? What happens to Coach park? Will the players just travel like crazy?

From what I understand about the format they should only have to travel 1 weekend. It would be like attending a weekend event. The rest is played online


isnt ro 16 and onward offline??


Yes but it's over one weekend atm ( just like a MLG\IPL sorta thing) they want that to change but not for season 1
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 10 2013 10:04 GMT
#306
On April 10 2013 19:03 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 19:00 m0ck wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:57 Dodgin wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:56 s3rp wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:52 YuiHirasawa wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:50 SilentShout wrote:
Hmm. MVP and co. will have easier competition, but worse lag. So that balances it out a bit? Still a rather smart decision by those 6, IMO.


That's wrong.
20 European players can potentially kill Mvp.

NA only have Scarlett.


I don't think 20 EU players can kill Mvp in a bo3/bo5, look at IEM.


Offline ? Prob not . Online ? Totally different animal with the KR-EU lag.


Online I totally agree, I just thought most of WCS was offline. I guess we'll get new details on that soon.

Of course, MVP actually lost to both Monchi & Naama offline in Europe. If they can, 20 European players can.


That was Mvp's worst tournament ever, and shouldn't be used as an example of how things will go now a little less than a year later.

Well, his last game was losing to a foreigner in GSTL..
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 10:04:46
April 10 2013 10:04 GMT
#307
WCS EU =

European Tournament
with
Korean Players ( ro4 full korean mode )
with
American Money .

gj blizzard . this is so wrong on so many levels .
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
Incanus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada695 Posts
April 10 2013 10:04 GMT
#308
As someone who follows the SC2 scene by reading the front page of TL.net daily, I now have no idea what is going on anymore. Mission confusion accomplished!
Flash: "Why am I so good?" *sob sob*
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 10 2013 10:04 GMT
#309
On April 10 2013 19:03 m0ck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 19:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 10 2013 19:01 Ammoth wrote:
How is EG-TL in proleague gonna work out? What happens to Coach park? Will the players just travel like crazy?

From what I understand about the format they should only have to travel 1 weekend. It would be like attending a weekend event. The rest is played online

Two weekends, no? Ro16 & Ro8->final.

oh maybe it was two
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33650 Posts
April 10 2013 10:04 GMT
#310
On April 10 2013 18:58 tribulator wrote:
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On April 10 2013 18:56 Serimek wrote:
ROOT.YuGiHo might be the only Korean on a foreigner team to play WCS Korea I know of. He just qualified for Contender division this morning.


Well he's the king of code A... would you rather him be Code A in NA or KR? I think the choice is obvious.


The King in the A!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 10 2013 10:04 GMT
#311
Tee-hee. Not surprised overall, although I didn't expect some of those names to be on the list. Many, many Koreans. Too many to make it a competition where NA players have a chance at being noticed in a positive way.

And they didn't even bother to include the Western Wolves Koreans for EU, that's three more players who are going to be coming over.
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
April 10 2013 10:04 GMT
#312
On April 10 2013 19:02 SilentShout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:52 YuiHirasawa wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:50 SilentShout wrote:
Hmm. MVP and co. will have easier competition, but worse lag. So that balances it out a bit? Still a rather smart decision by those 6, IMO.


That's wrong.
20 European players can potentially kill Mvp.

NA only have Scarlett.


You make it sound like the Koreans won't be playing each other, that can't be correct, right? Or am I misunderstanding you?


I do hope the qualifier seeds disregard the nationality of the players so they aren't artificially spread apart.
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
April 10 2013 10:05 GMT
#313
Terrible way to divide the community imo. Sure we get 3 tournaments per year where they will clash but I had rather just seen the korean scene in tact. Sure it's fun to see the (sub)top koreans competing with EU/NA on a more regular basis but I hate it far more to see korean community being divided so much. GSL got screwed, a large part of their non-kespa players just left. Sure code S remains mostly intact but it's still a shame.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 10 2013 10:05 GMT
#314
On April 10 2013 18:15 Fenrax wrote:
MC, MMA, MVP in Europe...

seems like cheap way to get the popular player who aren't good enough anymore to qualify otherwise deep into WCS


The stupidity, it HURTS. Coming from an NA guy, what would you say if we would put your favorite NA players into the Korean region? MC MMA MVP are all better than anyone from NA and Europe. (Yes I know Scarlett beat MVP) How can you make such a statement? It really asks for a bashing.

You put the Koreans into a hard place, they just search for an easier / possible way. Foreigners ask for more money and support all the time, now you are going to blame Koreans for taking their chance? Seriously what
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
April 10 2013 10:05 GMT
#315
I kinda feel bad for SC2 by now... They are really trying hard, but ultimately it has to fail. When the audience and the money comes from a different region than all players that can compete at the highest level, there is no way SC2 can get as big as the industry would have liked.
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
April 10 2013 10:06 GMT
#316
On April 10 2013 19:05 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:15 Fenrax wrote:
MC, MMA, MVP in Europe...

seems like cheap way to get the popular player who aren't good enough anymore to qualify otherwise deep into WCS


The stupidity, it HURTS. Coming from an NA guy, what would you say if we would put your favorite NA players into the Korean region? MC MMA MVP are all better than anyone from NA and Europe. (Yes I know Scarlett beat MVP) How can you make such a statement? It really asks for a bashing.

You put the Koreans into a hard place, they just search for an easier / possible way. Foreigners ask for more money and support all the time, now you are going to blame Koreans for taking their chance? Seriously what


did you just contradict yourself?
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
April 10 2013 10:06 GMT
#317
On April 10 2013 19:01 ELlminator1 wrote:
As soon as i saw this i burst into laughter. How blizzard didn't see this coming I will never know. LOL


They did, and they wanted it for a reason...
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 10 2013 10:06 GMT
#318
i'm surprised so many people are surprised about this, and even more surprised that a lot of people seem to think it's a bad thing.

think about the NA scene. if the NA equivalent to Code S would be 32 NA players, wouldn't that be straight up embarassing? would anybody want to watch that? i can't even think of 32 NA pros, not even necessarily good ones. there probably aren't even 32 NA pros?

putting code B/lower code A and a few badasses into NA can't be a bad thing. it makes the NA tournament watchable, it means the finals isn't automatically Scarlett vs Major (assuming they play NA) and it means NA players might realize just how bad they really are and either start practicing for real or gtfo.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Eire_91
Profile Joined December 2011
Ireland82 Posts
April 10 2013 10:06 GMT
#319
I want the best players to win, AKA the Koreans, if foreigners are mad then they just have to get better. Having the Koreans in WCS NA makes the tournament watchable.
"Quick mudelisps er good bicuz deyre like lots of early whirlybirds" - Axslav 2013
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
April 10 2013 10:07 GMT
#320
On April 10 2013 19:05 Markwerf wrote:
Terrible way to divide the community imo. Sure we get 3 tournaments per year where they will clash but I had rather just seen the korean scene in tact. Sure it's fun to see the (sub)top koreans competing with EU/NA on a more regular basis but I hate it far more to see korean community being divided so much. GSL got screwed, a large part of their non-kespa players just left. Sure code S remains mostly intact but it's still a shame.


GSL never got screwed.
There are tons of oversaturation of talented players in there.

There are still the Kespa players.
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