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Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
April 10 2013 10:00 GMT
#281
On April 10 2013 18:45 liberate71 wrote:
wow what a lineup hahaha... not as many going to EU as I thought would... MVP going EU is bad ass!

MMA vs. Mvp... EU is going to be an amazing region, right?
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
April 10 2013 10:00 GMT
#282
On April 10 2013 18:58 Weirdkid wrote:
Poor Gom/GSL. They seem to be really getting the shortest end of the stick in all these. I feel as though they've spent all this time building themselves up as the premier league in the world, a prestigious league where most of the world's best players would want to play in to prove themselves.

And now Blizzard just steps in and replicates the GSL league system for NA and EU and draws away a good portion of the players. I think the loss of players and the replication of it makes GSL feel less unique and prestigious.

I hope they got some kind of benefit from this deal.



which could lead to a higher level of play in the foreigner scene, IF they take it as an oppurtunity.
love esports - hate homophobia
Mirrikh
Profile Joined January 2012
Romania105 Posts
April 10 2013 10:00 GMT
#283
So Korean in foreign teams just move to other regions. Only 4 ESF players follow through, and no KESPA.

GSL remains by far the strongest league, and becomes more of a Korean affair.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 10 2013 10:00 GMT
#284
On April 10 2013 18:57 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:56 s3rp wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:52 YuiHirasawa wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:50 SilentShout wrote:
Hmm. MVP and co. will have easier competition, but worse lag. So that balances it out a bit? Still a rather smart decision by those 6, IMO.


That's wrong.
20 European players can potentially kill Mvp.

NA only have Scarlett.


I don't think 20 EU players can kill Mvp in a bo3/bo5, look at IEM.


Offline ? Prob not . Online ? Totally different animal with the KR-EU lag.


Online I totally agree, I just thought most of WCS was offline. I guess we'll get new details on that soon.

Of course, MVP actually lost to both Monchi & Naama offline in Europe. If they can, 20 European players can.
Ammoth
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden391 Posts
April 10 2013 10:01 GMT
#285
How is EG-TL in proleague gonna work out? What happens to Coach park? Will the players just travel like crazy?
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
April 10 2013 10:01 GMT
#286
On April 10 2013 18:55 Kim Hyuna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:54 bluQ wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:52 Kim Hyuna wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:50 Jakkerr wrote:
In my opinion regions should have been locked.
Koreans play Korea WCS
NA plays NA WCS
Europe plays Europe WCS

With the only exception being players permanently living in another region. Because of what's happening now Blizzard is kind of killing of their own concept of the WORLD?! championship series.


I said before on the previous QQ thread.

Our KR top GSL Code S 32 players are locked for the upcoming WCS. Which means, Code A/B will not have a chance to even qualify for it.

So since it's unfair for our B TEAMERS (some said), WE bring our lousy thrash b-teamers to beat your NA/EU top players!

Lose in Code S? NO PROBLEM! I come to your turf and dominate you. No chance to qualify? NO PROBLEM!! i come to your turf and dominate you again!

Blame who!? Blame BLIZZARD!!

Lol did you just call the list of KRs going to NA B-Teamers? hahahaj.


No i say. people say.

"I only put the quotation marks because none of your "best" like Flash, Innovation, Soo, Fantasy, etc. are playing in NA, its a bunch of B team Kespa players, Slayers rejects, and EG-TL (currently in last place in Proleague) wanting to play in other regions."

KESPA B TEAMERS EAT NA KIMCHI FOR DINNER NOMNOMNOM~

Dat trashtalking and making up stuff.
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ELlminator1
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia344 Posts
April 10 2013 10:01 GMT
#287
As soon as i saw this i burst into laughter. How blizzard didn't see this coming I will never know. LOL
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
April 10 2013 10:01 GMT
#288
On April 10 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:52 YuiHirasawa wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:50 SilentShout wrote:
Hmm. MVP and co. will have easier competition, but worse lag. So that balances it out a bit? Still a rather smart decision by those 6, IMO.


That's wrong.
20 European players can potentially kill Mvp.

NA only have Scarlett.


I don't think 20 EU players can kill Mvp in a bo3/bo5, look at IEM.


I think way more than 20 players can kill him in online qualifiers where he is going to play with heavy lag
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
April 10 2013 10:01 GMT
#289
Foreign team Korean theme song:

#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
April 10 2013 10:01 GMT
#290
On April 10 2013 18:57 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:56 s3rp wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:52 YuiHirasawa wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:50 SilentShout wrote:
Hmm. MVP and co. will have easier competition, but worse lag. So that balances it out a bit? Still a rather smart decision by those 6, IMO.


That's wrong.
20 European players can potentially kill Mvp.

NA only have Scarlett.


I don't think 20 EU players can kill Mvp in a bo3/bo5, look at IEM.


Offline ? Prob not . Online ? Totally different animal with the KR-EU lag.


Online I totally agree, I just thought most of WCS was offline. I guess we'll get new details on that soon.


IRC Round 16(could be 32 too ) on is going to be played offline in NA/EU. I sincerely doubt they directly seed any off the Koreans into the later rounds of the EU/NA tournament .
FancyCaTSC2
Profile Joined February 2013
56 Posts
April 10 2013 10:01 GMT
#291
I think Blizzard is aware that they "screwed over" the american scene at least a bit and on the other hand they just purchased all that IPL stuff. Maybe expect some kind of american / EU citizen only tournaments?

Maybe they are even trying to do something with NASL? (We give you money, you don't allow Koreans, this is just some really random speculation though, but I think they will do something to make up for the WCS thing with the IPL thingy)
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 10 2013 10:01 GMT
#292
On April 10 2013 19:01 Ammoth wrote:
How is EG-TL in proleague gonna work out? What happens to Coach park? Will the players just travel like crazy?

From what I understand about the format they should only have to travel 1 weekend. It would be like attending a weekend event. The rest is played online
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sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 10:02:53
April 10 2013 10:02 GMT
#293
On April 10 2013 19:01 ELlminator1 wrote:
As soon as i saw this i burst into laughter. How blizzard didn't see this coming I will never know. LOL

I'm fairly certain they saw this coming...

And I'm fairly certain they don't care. (and IMO shouldn't care).
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
April 10 2013 10:02 GMT
#294
So it's basically a list of players that failed to qualify for GSL/dropped to Code A/B? Their moving abroad won't make the GSL lack in skill at all. They might dominate the foreigner scene and that's it.
StarCraft도 Quake도 좋아해요.
SilentShout
Profile Joined March 2011
686 Posts
April 10 2013 10:02 GMT
#295
On April 10 2013 18:52 YuiHirasawa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:50 SilentShout wrote:
Hmm. MVP and co. will have easier competition, but worse lag. So that balances it out a bit? Still a rather smart decision by those 6, IMO.


That's wrong.
20 European players can potentially kill Mvp.

NA only have Scarlett.


You make it sound like the Koreans won't be playing each other, that can't be correct, right? Or am I misunderstanding you?
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 10 2013 10:03 GMT
#296
On April 10 2013 19:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 19:01 Ammoth wrote:
How is EG-TL in proleague gonna work out? What happens to Coach park? Will the players just travel like crazy?

From what I understand about the format they should only have to travel 1 weekend. It would be like attending a weekend event. The rest is played online

Two weekends, no? Ro16 & Ro8->final.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
April 10 2013 10:03 GMT
#297
On April 10 2013 19:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 19:01 Ammoth wrote:
How is EG-TL in proleague gonna work out? What happens to Coach park? Will the players just travel like crazy?

From what I understand about the format they should only have to travel 1 weekend. It would be like attending a weekend event. The rest is played online


isnt ro 16 and onward offline??
yo
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 10 2013 10:03 GMT
#298
On April 10 2013 19:00 m0ck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:57 Dodgin wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:56 s3rp wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:52 YuiHirasawa wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:50 SilentShout wrote:
Hmm. MVP and co. will have easier competition, but worse lag. So that balances it out a bit? Still a rather smart decision by those 6, IMO.


That's wrong.
20 European players can potentially kill Mvp.

NA only have Scarlett.


I don't think 20 EU players can kill Mvp in a bo3/bo5, look at IEM.


Offline ? Prob not . Online ? Totally different animal with the KR-EU lag.


Online I totally agree, I just thought most of WCS was offline. I guess we'll get new details on that soon.

Of course, MVP actually lost to both Monchi & Naama offline in Europe. If they can, 20 European players can.


That was Mvp's worst tournament ever, and shouldn't be used as an example of how things will go now a little less than a year later.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
April 10 2013 10:03 GMT
#299
I hope people don't start making statements that GSL level will drop.

Please tell me how many guys who are on the list are Code S right now.
None except for Taeja and Hyun.

GSL will still be the most toughest tournament now barring WCS Global finals.
Play your best
Ammoth
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden391 Posts
April 10 2013 10:03 GMT
#300
On April 10 2013 19:01 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 19:01 Ammoth wrote:
How is EG-TL in proleague gonna work out? What happens to Coach park? Will the players just travel like crazy?

From what I understand about the format they should only have to travel 1 weekend. It would be like attending a weekend event. The rest is played online


Oh I thought more was going to be played offline
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