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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 10 2013 09:54 GMT
#241
Pretty cool lineup of people.

MVP, Nestea and the majority of them are actually no brainers as the most of them can't even get into the first final if they stay in Korea.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
April 10 2013 09:54 GMT
#242
On April 10 2013 18:39 TheBB wrote:
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On April 10 2013 18:37 playa wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:34 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Can someone please explain how this ruins anything?

Keep in mind that a GSL style NA/EU tournament with similar prize money didn't exist before this.

Keep in mind that every country had a WCS last season and Koreans were only playing in the Korean WCS. Thus, non Koreans could actually win something...

The better way to get non-Koreans to win tournaments is to establish a continously running tournament structure where they can meet good players and get better. This does that.


O yeah? You have a lot of posts for being new to RTS. Welcome to RTS. How many top players weren't practicing on the Korean server? As long as you're playing people better than you, you have the chance to get better. If the person is too much better than you, though, you have no idea where to begin when it comes to fixing your play. In BW, I got to play iloevoov 6 or 7 times when he was the best player in the world. It was a reaffirming experience. Expect some of that.
Rozzy18
Profile Joined January 2012
14 Posts
April 10 2013 09:54 GMT
#243
On April 10 2013 18:46 m0ck wrote:
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On April 10 2013 18:43 Doriboi wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:30 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:23 Doriboi wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:11 Kasaraki wrote:
I don't mind, I prefer this to all-NA or EU tournaments, haha. And the WCS finals will be with more Koreans.


Honestly this news is pretty fucking disgusting. Once again the SC2 scene in North America will continue to stagnate rather than develop. So while its great to see your C league (Nestea excluded) StarCraft 2 pros who couldn't cut it in Korea come to play in the American championships, this really needs to be reserved for North and South American players. Blizzard you guys need to fix this system, its already an issue.

But we don't need to see Koreans who can't qualify in Korea come to America to steal something that isn't theirs.

So all that money that didn't exist beforehand naturally belongs to foreigners... can't let the better players have it!!!


Catz said it better than I did.
Catz's thoughts

You want to grow a scene or do you want it to stagnate and shrink? We're going through a revival of SC2 after the last 8-10 months of crappy games. But lets go back to what it was.

Can't help but notice that Root is choosing to let one of the Korean players play on NA.


But RootSage is Moving to NA.....so it makes sense
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
April 10 2013 09:54 GMT
#244
On April 10 2013 18:52 Kim Hyuna wrote:
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On April 10 2013 18:50 Jakkerr wrote:
In my opinion regions should have been locked.
Koreans play Korea WCS
NA plays NA WCS
Europe plays Europe WCS

With the only exception being players permanently living in another region. Because of what's happening now Blizzard is kind of killing of their own concept of the WORLD?! championship series.


I said before on the previous QQ thread.

Our KR top GSL Code S 32 players are locked for the upcoming WCS. Which means, Code A/B will not have a chance to even qualify for it.

So since it's unfair for our B TEAMERS (some said), WE bring our lousy thrash b-teamers to beat your NA/EU top players!

Lose in Code S? NO PROBLEM! I come to your turf and dominate you. No chance to qualify? NO PROBLEM!! i come to your turf and dominate you again!

Blame who!? Blame BLIZZARD!!

Lol did you just call the list of KRs going to NA B-Teamers? hahahaj.
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Kim Hyuna
Profile Joined March 2013
Korea (South)264 Posts
April 10 2013 09:54 GMT
#245
On April 10 2013 18:52 Fionn wrote:
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On April 10 2013 18:49 Kim Hyuna wrote:
If u wan to beat KR, better train harder harder and harder! Cos KR IS CUMMING!!!!!!


Post of the year.


환영합니다 ^^
김현아 fighting!
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
April 10 2013 09:54 GMT
#246
The only thing is (TotalBiscuit if you read this)

Why are you sending the Axiom guys to the US and not Europe?
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 10 2013 09:54 GMT
#247
On April 10 2013 18:52 YuiHirasawa wrote:
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On April 10 2013 18:50 SilentShout wrote:
Hmm. MVP and co. will have easier competition, but worse lag. So that balances it out a bit? Still a rather smart decision by those 6, IMO.


That's wrong.
20 European players can potentially kill Mvp.

NA only have Scarlett.


I don't think 20 EU players can kill Mvp in a bo3/bo5, look at IEM.
rename
Profile Joined February 2012
Estonia329 Posts
April 10 2013 09:55 GMT
#248
On April 10 2013 18:47 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:41 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:37 playa wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:34 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Can someone please explain how this ruins anything?

Keep in mind that a GSL style NA/EU tournament with similar prize money didn't exist before this.


Keep in mind that every country had a WCS last season and Koreans were only playing in the Korean WCS. Thus, non Koreans could actually win something...

So now they actually have to play better players to win something...

Oh no!

I'm sorry but I'm having a real hard time sympathizing with all this entitlement coming out of the foreign scene right now.


There will always be international tournaments with tons of top koreans stomping foreigners, but many wanted WCS to be the starcraft olympics. National champions being sent to the world final etc. Would you not enjoy that? Some regional competission leading up to a world final on top of all the international stuff?


GSL styles leagues in every timezone is more important than making WCG v2.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
April 10 2013 09:55 GMT
#249
On April 10 2013 18:50 Jakkerr wrote:
In my opinion regions should have been locked.
Koreans play Korea WCS
NA plays NA WCS
Europe plays Europe WCS

With the only exception being players permanently living in another region. Because of what's happening now Blizzard killing their own concept of the WORLD?! championship series.


And the prizepool should've been different . You can't have the same prizepool for tournaments that are completely different competition wise. Period. There should be a real reward for choosing to play against harder competition . Especially when the competitions function just as qualfiers anyway.
Kim Hyuna
Profile Joined March 2013
Korea (South)264 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 09:56:02
April 10 2013 09:55 GMT
#250
On April 10 2013 18:54 bluQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:52 Kim Hyuna wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:50 Jakkerr wrote:
In my opinion regions should have been locked.
Koreans play Korea WCS
NA plays NA WCS
Europe plays Europe WCS

With the only exception being players permanently living in another region. Because of what's happening now Blizzard is kind of killing of their own concept of the WORLD?! championship series.


I said before on the previous QQ thread.

Our KR top GSL Code S 32 players are locked for the upcoming WCS. Which means, Code A/B will not have a chance to even qualify for it.

So since it's unfair for our B TEAMERS (some said), WE bring our lousy thrash b-teamers to beat your NA/EU top players!

Lose in Code S? NO PROBLEM! I come to your turf and dominate you. No chance to qualify? NO PROBLEM!! i come to your turf and dominate you again!

Blame who!? Blame BLIZZARD!!

Lol did you just call the list of KRs going to NA B-Teamers? hahahaj.


No i say. people say.

"I only put the quotation marks because none of your "best" like Flash, Innovation, Soo, Fantasy, etc. are playing in NA, its a bunch of B team Kespa players, Slayers rejects, and EG-TL (currently in last place in Proleague) wanting to play in other regions."

KESPA B TEAMERS EAT NA KIMCHI FOR DINNER NOMNOMNOM~
김현아 fighting!
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 10 2013 09:55 GMT
#251
GSL code S has just been destroyed and the NA scene going to be all Korean hahaha.

Yea Blizzard should have made residence status
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3679 Posts
April 10 2013 09:55 GMT
#252
On April 10 2013 18:52 Highwinds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:50 Jakkerr wrote:
In my opinion regions should have been locked.
Koreans play Korea WCS
NA plays NA WCS
Europe plays Europe WCS

With the only exception being players permanently living in another region. Because of what's happening now Blizzard killing their own concept of the WORLD?! championship series.


then what would someone like polt do? he moved to na for school. so he would be forced to play KR with lag?


Live in na, play in na. Also like 90% of the koreans playing in a different region will play most of it from kr with lag too...

I do agree that everyone besides people not living in eu/na/kr should be forced to play in their respective region. Oh well maybe blizzard will learn when season 1 grand slam is 15 koreans and a white guy.
tribulator
Profile Joined February 2011
774 Posts
April 10 2013 09:56 GMT
#253
On April 10 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:52 YuiHirasawa wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:50 SilentShout wrote:
Hmm. MVP and co. will have easier competition, but worse lag. So that balances it out a bit? Still a rather smart decision by those 6, IMO.


That's wrong.
20 European players can potentially kill Mvp.

NA only have Scarlett.


I don't think 20 EU players can kill Mvp in a bo3/bo5, look at IEM.


Maybe if it's all 20 in a row, bo5, no dinner break...

Make it happen, blizz!
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
April 10 2013 09:56 GMT
#254
I think ladder practice in the US will finally be worth while investment. If they move over to the america it will raise the skill level.
I'm Quotable (IQ)
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 09:56:45
April 10 2013 09:56 GMT
#255
On April 10 2013 18:54 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:52 YuiHirasawa wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:50 SilentShout wrote:
Hmm. MVP and co. will have easier competition, but worse lag. So that balances it out a bit? Still a rather smart decision by those 6, IMO.


That's wrong.
20 European players can potentially kill Mvp.

NA only have Scarlett.


I don't think 20 EU players can kill Mvp in a bo3/bo5, look at IEM.


Offline ? Prob not . Online ? Totally different animal with the KR-EU lag.
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
April 10 2013 09:56 GMT
#256
On April 10 2013 18:54 Qikz wrote:
The only thing is (TotalBiscuit if you read this)

Why are you sending the Axiom guys to the US and not Europe?


The team has no connection to the EU, why would they?
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 10 2013 09:56 GMT
#257
On April 10 2013 18:50 A Wild Sosd wrote:
GSL will be so much worse now. Thank god life, parting and flash didn't leave.


Hardly, GSL lost like 2 Code S players and 3-4 Code A players, all of whom are easily replaceable. The Korean scene is so stacked with talent, it really doesn't matter. The majority of switchers were in Code B.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 10 2013 09:56 GMT
#258
On April 10 2013 18:55 Benjamin99 wrote:
GSL code S has just been destroyed and the NA scene going to be all Korean hahaha.

Yea Blizzard should have made residence status

Code S isn't really hurt. the chance of cycling out players might have taken a hit but Code S is barely being affected. Code A takes a bigger hit
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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
April 10 2013 09:56 GMT
#259
ROOT.YuGiHo might be the only Korean on a foreigner team to play WCS Korea I know of. He just qualified for Contender division this morning.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
April 10 2013 09:57 GMT
#260
EU is a really bad choice for korean players, unless they come over to play. You have a horrible lag from KR to EU and wise versa. So it's understandable most of them choosed NA.
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