Nexus / building placement causing stuck probes? - Page 5

On March 15 2013 02:34 Cyro wrote:


This is what nexus looks like, green is available build grid.

Gaps are what used to be pathfinding anomalies - but now get units stuck too, even obnoxiously seeming to make them teleport into the gaps when it looks like one of the last places the unit would pop out

You are mistaken, zerg work with larvae (which is a different mechanic) and terrans can (could) put 3 barracks against the cc corner without a gap in build grid and scv's would spawn elsewhere. Its the same as rallying a rax south - if you have 3 barracks in a vertical line, the marine will pop out of the bottom of the bottom barracks - but the ones in the middle and top will be rerouted to the side. It's slightly different, but still applies.

If one hex is blocked, they just come out of another hex unless there is not a hex available adjacent or diagonally (for a small unit) but in this case, the nexus misses 1 hex from each corner in collision for walling but NOT in the build grid - it's not registered as being blocked any more, because with the 2.0 update, the corner of the nexus (which is blocked on build grid but not collision) is no longer registered as being blocked. If you block a part that is not the corner and try to rally through it, the probes will pop out of another part of the nexus - which tells us they did not force workers to spawn at one point like suggested.

You could not trap scv's or probes unless you had hexes (adjacent or diagonal) available in the build grid but cut off from the "outside world" - Now, the corners count as viable spawn positions because of their wonky nonexistant collision but presence in the build grid, which is messy.

On March 14 2013 16:49 dAPhREAk wrote:

yeah, thats not an issue. when its an issue with people who play the game competitively then its an issue. otherwise its just people who need to learn how to position their buildings correctly.

On March 22 2013 12:07 ohampatu wrote:
I can't believe so many people are against this to be honest, and not one with a single good issue.

I have played approximately 7k 1v1 games, and everything Cryo says is true. Way too many people posting in here without reading or who are just misinformed. Both Nexus Corners were 'changed' between WoL and HoTS. I understand that this isn't a big issue and some of you dont care, but the fact that this is caused by a 'change' that only really affects casual protoss players, is just bad design. Their was no reason to change this. We just want the old way back, were not asking to make hte game easier.

Protoss building placement is much more important than zerg/terran in multiple mu's. Why can't I simcity like I have for the last 3 years? Nobody has yet given a good reason why Protoss players should be required to re-learn sim city's they have been doing for thousands of games. It was an unnecesarry change that should be reverted. They neither made it easier or harder, they just made it more annoying, which is never good. Cryo's graph shows it perfectly, the two edges function differently then they did at the start of WoL and their is no reason they need to be different.

On March 22 2013 05:28 jinorazi wrote:
it can happen, dont let it happen (by building like that). move along.

i cant believe people asking for patches...ughhhh somuchfacepalm.
shit guys, where is the petition to reposition larva depending on spawn location!!????