Coach Park appointed new head coach of EG-TL - Page 22

On March 14 2013 12:10 Shinespark wrote:
Huge news. I actually can't believe the guy didn't have a job before.

Also: dat EG money

On March 14 2013 12:28 Salazarz wrote:
I dunno if Park was as much of an asset to SKT's coaching team as people in this thread seem to think. They've always had absolutely incredible 'secondary' coaches that helped individual players and development of strategies in Oov (lol, oov secondary xP) and Dr. K; and in general coaching as what you'd associate with Park was never SKT's strong side, IMO. During the last BW season in particular a lot of SKT's line-up decisions and such was extremely questionable and really the reason they won that season was because Fantasy was being an absolute beast and Bisu pulled through where it mattered the most, not because of Park's coaching. (unless we assume that Fantasy was doing as well as he was because of Park but really that'd be quite an assumption...).

They have Boxer now who is without any doubt an excellent motivator and their race coaches aren't going anywhere, so I don't think it's going to be a very noticeable change for SKT. If anything, it might freshen things up a little.

On March 14 2013 07:59 Bagration wrote:


FXO and EGTL's model isn't quite the same though. FXO effectively bought fOu, the entire team, coaches, and the whole infrastructure that the team had already had in place. Even then, it took them roughly a year before they won GSTL. I think the equivalent would be something like EG buying STX or something and annexing all the players into the EG team.

FXO's initial foray into Korea is more similar to the EGTL model, when they sent their team to Korea, but prior to when they acquired fOu. It was a team of foreigners plus Oz and Moonan (IIRC). They were the laughingstock of GSTL, and save for qxc's miraculous allkill of IM, it was an absymal showing for FXO. This is very similar to what TL did for GSTL, and what EGTL did for PL. Not the best results by any means, but then again, this model was basically moving a foreign team onto Korean soil and hope to overcome the odds (culture-shock, the difficulties of setting up a team infrastructure, etc), while tackling the Korean big leagues against the Korean teams on their home turf.

On March 14 2013 13:13 FXOUnstable wrote:


The comparison to FXO before we aquired fou and EGTL is pretty spot on in my opinion, the difference being we didn't go there with any expectations of winning other than learning how the koreans do it, even after our origional players left I continued to learn and adapt and thats what turned us into a championship team. However the biggest difference I feel that no one is really commenting on is that for a team to work effectively it requires the co-operation of both the players and the coach, a coach is nothing if the players refuse to do what they say, and players are nothing if they do not accept the coach's guidance. There was issues when we were in korea withour old team with what I feel are very similar problems based on what i've heard/seen due to the cultural divide between coach/players and the different expectations between them both. So I am hesitant about this move because if there was a fundamental issue between the relationships, a new coach wont fix these because korean culture is likely the issue with most players.

This is where one of the fundamental problems arises in this situation, even after we aquired fou it took us over a year of tuning and changes until we found the best way to run things. However the basis of expectations of EGTL are the crutch of the matter which only causes more pressure, and it needs to be a cohesive unit moving forward. and if the underlying issues arent resolved they will just resurface with coach park too.

On March 14 2013 13:16 EleanorRIgby wrote:
now they really have no excuses, i still think they wont be a top 3 team but they might just be able to make play offs.

On March 14 2013 01:54 tuho12345 wrote:

yeah i think so too, players' skill level aren't that high and they pretty much reached their ceiling. Good luck nonetheless

On March 14 2013 05:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:

o my GOD this is hilarious! A while back someone compared EGTL to Team England, now they are literally following the same story trajectory:

Step 1: Assemble a crew of overhyped players and call them the Dream Team, Golden Generation, or whatever
Step 2: Watch them underperform as they fail to gel as a team and get beaten by "inferior" teams which are in reality considerably more talented than they've been credit for.
Step 3: Fire (or demote) your coach and hire the biggest foreign name in the business with a cabinet full of silverware
Step 4: Watch as said coach achieves exactly the same results as he is frustrated by not being to impose his absolute authority over an undisciplined team, and is unable to understand or reach across a gap in cultural values

Guus Hiddink? Try "Don" Fabio Capello.

On March 14 2013 06:49 Waxangel wrote:


this would be like the perfect, "worst case" analogy (it hinges on whether or not you really believe if EG-TL lacks in talent, or if they're just not playing up to their potential in PL)

still, if EG-TL finished in the knockout round of PL (is that the EU/WC Ro8 equiv?), I think many people would consider that a success

it's not like England where people are disappointed when they don't win the entire thing

On March 14 2013 10:31 blade55555 wrote:


Uh unless I am mistaken they have quiet a few players might not be 20 but close to it. They have quiet a few B teamers that most people don't know about because they aren't good enough to be known.