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Coach Park appointed new head coach of EG-TL - Page 20

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edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
March 14 2013 00:47 GMT
#381
EG-TL is really loaded, I thought coach Park didn't want to be coach anymore, if he doesn't even want to stay in SKT. They must pays him a lot of money to change his mind.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
March 14 2013 00:49 GMT
#382
Well a kepsa team has around 20 players on the team, EG-TL will need those numbers to compete as well.
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
March 14 2013 00:49 GMT
#383
I wonder who EGTL are going to pick up.......
Evil Geniuses<3
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-14 01:06:27
March 14 2013 00:57 GMT
#384
On March 14 2013 09:49 soulist wrote:
I wonder who EGTL are going to pick up.......

Probably a bunch of b-teamers recommended by Coach Park. They need training dummies,

Also while dropping all this cash you think it would be possible to have a actual uniform instead of a t-shirt and jeans
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
March 14 2013 01:11 GMT
#385
HOLY FUCK.

This is AMAZING.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 14 2013 01:14 GMT
#386
On March 14 2013 09:06 FXOBoSs wrote:
Q's:

What does this change within the EGTL organisation?

What should we expect to see from the players, given the new coach?


Will the guy come out whipping stuff up and forcing proper practice and a korean regiment? Wouldn't this be bad for the players who are used to a "more laid back (albeit not overly)" style of training.

I personally approve of plenty of whip cracking at EGTL... Its necessary and will make the difference.

They already tried "forcing proper practice".

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17415787

On January 04 2013 05:59 EG.lectR wrote:
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On January 03 2013 14:29 decado90 wrote:
On January 03 2013 12:00 LingBlingBling wrote:
I hope he does not go to EG, Seems like Koreans don't get enough practice on EG, they get paid well, but the Korean team train environment is 20x better then anything EG could provide.



I guess EG is just appealing.

Hell, who wouldn't want a fat check and an organization that has no strict practice schedule, and that couldn't give 2 shits about if you win or lose as long as you wear their logo, make some tweets, and do a commercial or two.


Those Koreans on EG that you're talking about actually have a very strict practice schedule (much more so than in our NA house). They are not allowed to live in the house unless they commit 8 hours a day to training. They have designated break times, designated practice partner times, designated free play time (i.e. streaming), and do all of this seven days a week.

In addition to that, our Korean coach (Trot) tracks the hours they spend practicing and reports those hours to our GM daily. He also evaluates the players every other day with our GM in a personal manner. From reporting about Proleague matches, to discussing roster draws, to informing our management of any additional needs or suggestions from our players, the conversation between our Korea house and our core management is ongoing.

So no, I'd say we have quite the practice schedule and that we do "give two shits about winning or losing."
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3830 Posts
March 14 2013 01:23 GMT
#387
I'm trying to grasp how big a deal this is.

It seems pretty damn big to me.
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
March 14 2013 01:26 GMT
#388
On March 14 2013 09:49 Krogan wrote:
Well a kepsa team has around 20 players on the team, EG-TL will need those numbers to compete as well.


No team has that many active players.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 14 2013 01:31 GMT
#389
On March 14 2013 10:26 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 09:49 Krogan wrote:
Well a kepsa team has around 20 players on the team, EG-TL will need those numbers to compete as well.


No team has that many active players.


Uh unless I am mistaken they have quiet a few players might not be 20 but close to it. They have quiet a few B teamers that most people don't know about because they aren't good enough to be known.
When I think of something else, something will go here
TeslasPigeon
Profile Joined March 2012
464 Posts
March 14 2013 01:32 GMT
#390
On March 14 2013 10:26 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 09:49 Krogan wrote:
Well a kepsa team has around 20 players on the team, EG-TL will need those numbers to compete as well.


No team has that many active players.


They may not have as much as their peak in BW but I suspect that they do have at least a dozen or so b teamers to practice and grind out scenarios with. I wonder if EGTL will pick up some b teamers as well.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
March 14 2013 01:32 GMT
#391
On March 14 2013 10:31 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 10:26 GolemMadness wrote:
On March 14 2013 09:49 Krogan wrote:
Well a kepsa team has around 20 players on the team, EG-TL will need those numbers to compete as well.


No team has that many active players.


Uh unless I am mistaken they have quiet a few players might not be 20 but close to it. They have quiet a few B teamers that most people don't know about because they aren't good enough to be known.


Yup, not quite 20, but close to it. Simply way more than EG-TL and more than "enough" to mix things up a bit.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
March 14 2013 01:53 GMT
#392
On March 14 2013 06:49 Waxangel wrote:
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On March 14 2013 05:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:
On March 14 2013 04:10 jinorazi wrote:
coach park, guus hiddink of foreigners :D

he will take egtl to ro4

o my GOD this is hilarious! A while back someone compared EGTL to Team England, now they are literally following the same story trajectory:

Step 1: Assemble a crew of overhyped players and call them the Dream Team, Golden Generation, or whatever
Step 2: Watch them underperform as they fail to gel as a team and get beaten by "inferior" teams which are in reality considerably more talented than they've been credit for.
Step 3: Fire (or demote) your coach and hire the biggest foreign name in the business with a cabinet full of silverware
Step 4: Watch as said coach achieves exactly the same results as he is frustrated by not being to impose his absolute authority over an undisciplined team, and is unable to understand or reach across a gap in cultural values

Guus Hiddink? Try "Don" Fabio Capello.


this would be like the perfect, "worst case" analogy (it hinges on whether or not you really believe if EG-TL lacks in talent, or if they're just not playing up to their potential in PL)

still, if EG-TL finished in the knockout round of PL (is that the EU/WC Ro8 equiv?), I think many people would consider that a success

it's not like England where people are disappointed when they don't win the entire thing


nah team England has never been good enough for any tournament semis since 1996, let alone winning. Come to think of it, in every single tournament from 1998 onward, there were always 4,5 teams that had better players, depth, synergy, strategy and coaching lol. The overwhelming popularity of the Premier League doesnt mean team England has to be good
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
March 14 2013 01:56 GMT
#393
On March 14 2013 10:31 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 10:26 GolemMadness wrote:
On March 14 2013 09:49 Krogan wrote:
Well a kepsa team has around 20 players on the team, EG-TL will need those numbers to compete as well.


No team has that many active players.


Uh unless I am mistaken they have quiet a few players might not be 20 but close to it. They have quiet a few B teamers that most people don't know about because they aren't good enough to be known.


Yeah, but they don't actually play. I'm pretty sure that EGTL isn't so lacking in practice partners that that's what's making the big difference.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33390 Posts
March 14 2013 01:58 GMT
#394
On March 14 2013 10:53 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 06:49 Waxangel wrote:
On March 14 2013 05:13 Evil_Sheep wrote:
On March 14 2013 04:10 jinorazi wrote:
coach park, guus hiddink of foreigners :D

he will take egtl to ro4

o my GOD this is hilarious! A while back someone compared EGTL to Team England, now they are literally following the same story trajectory:

Step 1: Assemble a crew of overhyped players and call them the Dream Team, Golden Generation, or whatever
Step 2: Watch them underperform as they fail to gel as a team and get beaten by "inferior" teams which are in reality considerably more talented than they've been credit for.
Step 3: Fire (or demote) your coach and hire the biggest foreign name in the business with a cabinet full of silverware
Step 4: Watch as said coach achieves exactly the same results as he is frustrated by not being to impose his absolute authority over an undisciplined team, and is unable to understand or reach across a gap in cultural values

Guus Hiddink? Try "Don" Fabio Capello.


this would be like the perfect, "worst case" analogy (it hinges on whether or not you really believe if EG-TL lacks in talent, or if they're just not playing up to their potential in PL)

still, if EG-TL finished in the knockout round of PL (is that the EU/WC Ro8 equiv?), I think many people would consider that a success

it's not like England where people are disappointed when they don't win the entire thing


nah team England has never been good enough for any tournament semis since 1996, let alone winning. Come to think of it, in every single tournament from 1998 onward, there were always 4,5 teams that had better players, depth, synergy, strategy and coaching lol. The overwhelming popularity of the Premier League doesnt mean team England has to be good


yeh but I recall that ppl expected capello to do more for them? or better than Ro8 or whatever they made that one time
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happyGo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States20 Posts
March 14 2013 02:00 GMT
#395
So exciting!

Also, found this edifying:

On March 13 2013 23:44 Ketch wrote:
quoted from Park: "Also, the way they approach games is a bit different from Koreans, so I would like to analyze that difference and find exactly why Koreans become top-class gamers."


Translation: a really nice, kind way of saying "find out what foreigners are doing wrong." It'll be cool to see if he develops a hybrid approach or if he ends up fully going back to the Korean team style of training.
Z
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
March 14 2013 02:03 GMT
#396
EG-TL continuing to buy off the best of the crop..
Coach park..
Jesus Christ...the knows how to manage.
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
March 14 2013 02:03 GMT
#397
On March 14 2013 10:26 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2013 09:49 Krogan wrote:
Well a kepsa team has around 20 players on the team, EG-TL will need those numbers to compete as well.


No team has that many active players.


I'd guess practice partners aren't active players anyway?
Not that I know anything about it but I'd guess telling HerO to help Jeadong counter an Immortal/Sentry all-in would take away time from HerOs practice, no? Not as much in a single player league like GSL, but in a team league?
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LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
March 14 2013 02:07 GMT
#398
I wonder though..out of all of this..
Does this mean he'll make JD the designated Ace or they'll stick with a rotation of Taeja/Stephano/Hero/JD
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
March 14 2013 02:08 GMT
#399
Wow, very interesting move by EGTL. If Coach Park cant get results from this team, nobody will.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 14 2013 02:09 GMT
#400
On March 14 2013 11:07 LighT. wrote:
I wonder though..out of all of this..
Does this mean he'll make JD the designated Ace or they'll stick with a rotation of Taeja/Stephano/Hero/JD


Well for ace they have put JYP/taeja/hero as the main ones. Jaedong has yet to play in an ace for egtl and I don't think stephano has either.
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