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On October 24 2012 02:05 SarenS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 01:26 SarenS wrote:
Jeffrey “Sjow” Brusi has been suspended without pay for a 30 days period. This decision was made by Eclypsia following the player’s breach of trust.
We are very sorry for the inconvenience it may cause but we feel strongly about punishing a player who has not honored any of the commitments he had signed up for.
As you may have noticed (or unnoticed actually), Sjow has been absent from the European scene since he has joined Eclypsia. He has only played few tournaments and we can’t but regret his lack of results and motivation. Some may for example remember his elimination from the Battle at Ministry of Win in August right from the first group stage on a 0-2/1-4 score.
Sjow asked Eclypsia to have him join the Ministry of Win in September 2012. He had then committed to increase his gaming level and be more visible online. He was indeed supposed to stream his trainings.
We are today very sorry to admit none of these commitments were or are being honored. We really wish for this period to be enough to receive from our player a satisfying answer. We still hope to see Sjow at the top very soon. Ruurk's statement: Sjow at the moment is not playing SC2. This means we cannot pay him for being a SC2 player. If SjoW wants to come back and play we will be glad to continue. If he doesn't however he will not be a paid member of Eclypsia. We believe we can resolve the issue so at the moment we have just ordered a suspension rather than removal. If SjoW wants to leave the team he is free to go. If he wants to return he is more than welcome but as it stands we cannot pay somebody who is not playing the game they are paid for.
So wait, you haven't first told SjoW about the suspension and let him decide if he wants to leave the team? Instead you decide to post this publicly first?
Wow.
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On October 24 2012 02:05 SarenS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 01:26 SarenS wrote:
Jeffrey “Sjow” Brusi has been suspended without pay for a 30 days period. This decision was made by Eclypsia following the player’s breach of trust.
We are very sorry for the inconvenience it may cause but we feel strongly about punishing a player who has not honored any of the commitments he had signed up for.
As you may have noticed (or unnoticed actually), Sjow has been absent from the European scene since he has joined Eclypsia. He has only played few tournaments and we can’t but regret his lack of results and motivation. Some may for example remember his elimination from the Battle at Ministry of Win in August right from the first group stage on a 0-2/1-4 score.
Sjow asked Eclypsia to have him join the Ministry of Win in September 2012. He had then committed to increase his gaming level and be more visible online. He was indeed supposed to stream his trainings.
We are today very sorry to admit none of these commitments were or are being honored. We really wish for this period to be enough to receive from our player a satisfying answer. We still hope to see Sjow at the top very soon. Ruurk's statement: Sjow at the moment is not playing SC2. This means we cannot pay him for being a SC2 player. If SjoW wants to come back and play we will be glad to continue. If he doesn't however he will not be a paid member of Eclypsia. We believe we can resolve the issue so at the moment we have just ordered a suspension rather than removal. If SjoW wants to leave the team he is free to go. If he wants to return he is more than welcome but as it stands we cannot pay somebody who is not playing the game they are paid for.
That is a really cool story and whatnot, but WHY are you posting this publicly?
This really seems like a topic you just tell Sjow in private and MAYBE publicly annouce that he went inactive for now.
I mean, what are you thinking?
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On October 24 2012 01:30 FairForever wrote:
Ironic, since Eclypsia seems to have had problems honouring agreements to its other ex-players in the past. Also the meme contest was pretty brutal.
Hope Sjow is able to leave and find a better team.
Don't blame them for this, he is the one who didn't uphold his contract. Sure they had some trouble in the past but you can't use that to justify other player's misconduct.
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On October 24 2012 01:40 imMUTAble787 wrote:
Why are you bashing your own player in a public forum ? This does not seem worthy of a post at all.
I completely agree... It's not like he did something that tarnished your name in any form. If he didnt follow your contract, punish him, everyone doesnt have to know about it. If anything, this actually just makes you look bad in my eyes...
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On October 24 2012 02:07 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 02:05 SarenS wrote:On October 24 2012 01:26 SarenS wrote:
Jeffrey “Sjow” Brusi has been suspended without pay for a 30 days period. This decision was made by Eclypsia following the player’s breach of trust.
We are very sorry for the inconvenience it may cause but we feel strongly about punishing a player who has not honored any of the commitments he had signed up for.
As you may have noticed (or unnoticed actually), Sjow has been absent from the European scene since he has joined Eclypsia. He has only played few tournaments and we can’t but regret his lack of results and motivation. Some may for example remember his elimination from the Battle at Ministry of Win in August right from the first group stage on a 0-2/1-4 score.
Sjow asked Eclypsia to have him join the Ministry of Win in September 2012. He had then committed to increase his gaming level and be more visible online. He was indeed supposed to stream his trainings.
We are today very sorry to admit none of these commitments were or are being honored. We really wish for this period to be enough to receive from our player a satisfying answer. We still hope to see Sjow at the top very soon. Ruurk's statement: Sjow at the moment is not playing SC2. This means we cannot pay him for being a SC2 player. If SjoW wants to come back and play we will be glad to continue. If he doesn't however he will not be a paid member of Eclypsia. We believe we can resolve the issue so at the moment we have just ordered a suspension rather than removal. If SjoW wants to leave the team he is free to go. If he wants to return he is more than welcome but as it stands we cannot pay somebody who is not playing the game they are paid for. So wait, you haven't first told SjoW about the suspension and let him decide if he wants to leave the team? Instead you decide to post this publicly first? Wow. You're not reading that correctly.
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People want transparency and when they get it they still complain...
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I have been missing Sjow's stream. I had it bookmarked for a while, but there wasn't much recently. Then again, I could have missed out on his streaming hours.
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On October 24 2012 02:07 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 02:05 SarenS wrote:On October 24 2012 01:26 SarenS wrote:
Jeffrey “Sjow” Brusi has been suspended without pay for a 30 days period. This decision was made by Eclypsia following the player’s breach of trust.
We are very sorry for the inconvenience it may cause but we feel strongly about punishing a player who has not honored any of the commitments he had signed up for.
As you may have noticed (or unnoticed actually), Sjow has been absent from the European scene since he has joined Eclypsia. He has only played few tournaments and we can’t but regret his lack of results and motivation. Some may for example remember his elimination from the Battle at Ministry of Win in August right from the first group stage on a 0-2/1-4 score.
Sjow asked Eclypsia to have him join the Ministry of Win in September 2012. He had then committed to increase his gaming level and be more visible online. He was indeed supposed to stream his trainings.
We are today very sorry to admit none of these commitments were or are being honored. We really wish for this period to be enough to receive from our player a satisfying answer. We still hope to see Sjow at the top very soon. Ruurk's statement: Sjow at the moment is not playing SC2. This means we cannot pay him for being a SC2 player. If SjoW wants to come back and play we will be glad to continue. If he doesn't however he will not be a paid member of Eclypsia. We believe we can resolve the issue so at the moment we have just ordered a suspension rather than removal. If SjoW wants to leave the team he is free to go. If he wants to return he is more than welcome but as it stands we cannot pay somebody who is not playing the game they are paid for. So wait, you haven't first told SjoW about the suspension and let him decide if he wants to leave the team? Instead you decide to post this publicly first? Wow.
Where does it say they haven't told Sjow about it. It just says that they've suspended his contract because he's not playing SC2 and in the event that he decides he does want to re-commit to SC2 again they'll be happy to resume it.
As for this being posted publicly, meh I think it's fine. It's transparent (presuming it's not hideously biased; given the lack of Sjow anywhere it's not exactly surprising) and I don't see anything wrong with letting fans know the status of team/players, especially in circumstances like this.
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wow... most teams in esports are so bad at business. looks like they watched what EG was doing (this part is a good idea if you wanna do better business) and tried to copy it without understanding the point of EG's move and how it differs from what they are doing even in the slightest.
/facepalm
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On October 24 2012 01:52 nath wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 01:47 Insoleet wrote:
learn to read dudes. he is suspended for not participating in any tournament, for not streaming, for not going to ministry of win house.... he doesn't even try. you can't pay a player who is afk, that's retarded. i guess this is why french businesses in general and rules of contracts in france and between french entities and external entities are a fucking joke. they tolerate shitty behavior. is it a cultural thing in france that businesses are allowed to be fucking jokes and not play by any semblance of rules? i know businesses around the world break rules but they at least have to do it in secret and do get caught/punished. i see people from multiple countries including other europeans disgusted with their behavior.
Now this is just defamation.
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On October 24 2012 01:47 Fyodor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 01:44 soiii wrote:
"Our player does no perform, so lets just suspend him and bash him in an official statement" - Eclypsia surely stays the biggest joke team out there. If he's lazy and bad then he should be thankful that it is only a suspension. More teams should do this IMO. So many contracted players just sit on their ass waiting for divine intervention to give them "teh skills".
why talk about something you have NO effing clue of?
I have nothing to say about this really, except for:
The sc2 dramalevel is TOO DAMN HIGH!
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People want no fluff and when they get it they cry about it, again. Learn to read. They're not bashing anyone. A lot of Sjow fans are interested in what he's doing.
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If Sjow is inactive completely then I don't see the point in paying him to play SC2. Pay someone who deserves it who is actually practicing.
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On October 24 2012 02:22 Shadow_Dog wrote:
People want no fluff and when they get it they cry about it, again. Learn to read. They're not bashing anyone. A lot of Sjow fans are interested in what he's doing.
They are publicly punishing him though.
None of this needed to be heard. It could have been a simple "sjow goes inactive" thread. Internal problems that didn't start publicly don't need to be made public. It's between EC and Sjow. The fact that they made this public is so pathetic. They didn't get enough attention from sjow being on the team streaming so now they do this to get attention. So sad.
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On October 24 2012 02:14 nihlon wrote:
People want transparency and when they get it they still complain...
Transparency yes, when there is an argument at hand which consits of different accusations. This issue on the other hand is pretty straight forward and is 100% of clan-internal nature. Posting this, while beeing totally uncalled for, just has an attention-fishing tone to it.
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Oh the irony of the situation.
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Perfectly valid reason to suspend him, to be fair to Eclipsia they are doing a lot better job recently than when they started.
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Looks like another attention stunt by Eclypsia...
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On October 24 2012 01:40 imMUTAble787 wrote:
Why are you bashing your own player in a public forum ? This does not seem worthy of a post at all.
This. What's the point of publicly bashing Sjow ? This is an internal issue imo...
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Eclypsia, no one in eSports wants you, just call it a day.
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EPT
