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FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
October 23 2012 17:07 GMT
#61
On October 24 2012 02:05 SarenS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 01:26 SarenS wrote:

Jeffrey “Sjow” Brusi has been suspended without pay for a 30 days period. This decision was made by Eclypsia following the player’s breach of trust.

We are very sorry for the inconvenience it may cause but we feel strongly about punishing a player who has not honored any of the commitments he had signed up for.
As you may have noticed (or unnoticed actually), Sjow has been absent from the European scene since he has joined Eclypsia. He has only played few tournaments and we can’t but regret his lack of results and motivation. Some may for example remember his elimination from the Battle at Ministry of Win in August right from the first group stage on a 0-2/1-4 score.

Sjow asked Eclypsia to have him join the Ministry of Win in September 2012. He had then committed to increase his gaming level and be more visible online. He was indeed supposed to stream his trainings.

We are today very sorry to admit none of these commitments were or are being honored. We really wish for this period to be enough to receive from our player a satisfying answer. We still hope to see Sjow at the top very soon.



Ruurk's statement:

Sjow at the moment is not playing SC2. This means we cannot pay him for being a SC2 player.
If SjoW wants to come back and play we will be glad to continue. If he doesn't however he will not be a paid member of Eclypsia. We believe we can resolve the issue so at the moment we have just ordered a suspension rather than removal.
If SjoW wants to leave the team he is free to go. If he wants to return he is more than welcome but as it stands we cannot pay somebody who is not playing the game they are paid for.


So wait, you haven't first told SjoW about the suspension and let him decide if he wants to leave the team? Instead you decide to post this publicly first?

Wow.
reapsen
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany559 Posts
October 23 2012 17:10 GMT
#62
On October 24 2012 02:05 SarenS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 01:26 SarenS wrote:

Jeffrey “Sjow” Brusi has been suspended without pay for a 30 days period. This decision was made by Eclypsia following the player’s breach of trust.

We are very sorry for the inconvenience it may cause but we feel strongly about punishing a player who has not honored any of the commitments he had signed up for.
As you may have noticed (or unnoticed actually), Sjow has been absent from the European scene since he has joined Eclypsia. He has only played few tournaments and we can’t but regret his lack of results and motivation. Some may for example remember his elimination from the Battle at Ministry of Win in August right from the first group stage on a 0-2/1-4 score.

Sjow asked Eclypsia to have him join the Ministry of Win in September 2012. He had then committed to increase his gaming level and be more visible online. He was indeed supposed to stream his trainings.

We are today very sorry to admit none of these commitments were or are being honored. We really wish for this period to be enough to receive from our player a satisfying answer. We still hope to see Sjow at the top very soon.



Ruurk's statement:

Sjow at the moment is not playing SC2. This means we cannot pay him for being a SC2 player.
If SjoW wants to come back and play we will be glad to continue. If he doesn't however he will not be a paid member of Eclypsia. We believe we can resolve the issue so at the moment we have just ordered a suspension rather than removal.
If SjoW wants to leave the team he is free to go. If he wants to return he is more than welcome but as it stands we cannot pay somebody who is not playing the game they are paid for.


That is a really cool story and whatnot, but WHY are you posting this publicly?

This really seems like a topic you just tell Sjow in private and MAYBE publicly annouce that he went inactive for now.
I mean, what are you thinking?
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
October 23 2012 17:10 GMT
#63
On October 24 2012 01:30 FairForever wrote:
Ironic, since Eclypsia seems to have had problems honouring agreements to its other ex-players in the past. Also the meme contest was pretty brutal.

Hope Sjow is able to leave and find a better team.


Don't blame them for this, he is the one who didn't uphold his contract. Sure they had some trouble in the past but you can't use that to justify other player's misconduct.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
October 23 2012 17:13 GMT
#64
On October 24 2012 01:40 imMUTAble787 wrote:
Why are you bashing your own player in a public forum ? This does not seem worthy of a post at all.

I completely agree... It's not like he did something that tarnished your name in any form. If he didnt follow your contract, punish him, everyone doesnt have to know about it. If anything, this actually just makes you look bad in my eyes...
Mada Mada Dane
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 17:13:54
October 23 2012 17:13 GMT
#65
On October 24 2012 02:07 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 02:05 SarenS wrote:
On October 24 2012 01:26 SarenS wrote:

Jeffrey “Sjow” Brusi has been suspended without pay for a 30 days period. This decision was made by Eclypsia following the player’s breach of trust.

We are very sorry for the inconvenience it may cause but we feel strongly about punishing a player who has not honored any of the commitments he had signed up for.
As you may have noticed (or unnoticed actually), Sjow has been absent from the European scene since he has joined Eclypsia. He has only played few tournaments and we can’t but regret his lack of results and motivation. Some may for example remember his elimination from the Battle at Ministry of Win in August right from the first group stage on a 0-2/1-4 score.

Sjow asked Eclypsia to have him join the Ministry of Win in September 2012. He had then committed to increase his gaming level and be more visible online. He was indeed supposed to stream his trainings.

We are today very sorry to admit none of these commitments were or are being honored. We really wish for this period to be enough to receive from our player a satisfying answer. We still hope to see Sjow at the top very soon.



Ruurk's statement:

Sjow at the moment is not playing SC2. This means we cannot pay him for being a SC2 player.
If SjoW wants to come back and play we will be glad to continue. If he doesn't however he will not be a paid member of Eclypsia. We believe we can resolve the issue so at the moment we have just ordered a suspension rather than removal.
If SjoW wants to leave the team he is free to go. If he wants to return he is more than welcome but as it stands we cannot pay somebody who is not playing the game they are paid for.


So wait, you haven't first told SjoW about the suspension and let him decide if he wants to leave the team? Instead you decide to post this publicly first?

Wow.
You're not reading that correctly.
Refer to my post.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
October 23 2012 17:14 GMT
#66
People want transparency and when they get it they still complain...
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Desertfaux
Profile Joined June 2012
Netherlands276 Posts
October 23 2012 17:18 GMT
#67
I have been missing Sjow's stream. I had it bookmarked for a while, but there wasn't much recently. Then again, I could have missed out on his streaming hours.
Rogue Deck
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
October 23 2012 17:19 GMT
#68
On October 24 2012 02:07 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 02:05 SarenS wrote:
On October 24 2012 01:26 SarenS wrote:

Jeffrey “Sjow” Brusi has been suspended without pay for a 30 days period. This decision was made by Eclypsia following the player’s breach of trust.

We are very sorry for the inconvenience it may cause but we feel strongly about punishing a player who has not honored any of the commitments he had signed up for.
As you may have noticed (or unnoticed actually), Sjow has been absent from the European scene since he has joined Eclypsia. He has only played few tournaments and we can’t but regret his lack of results and motivation. Some may for example remember his elimination from the Battle at Ministry of Win in August right from the first group stage on a 0-2/1-4 score.

Sjow asked Eclypsia to have him join the Ministry of Win in September 2012. He had then committed to increase his gaming level and be more visible online. He was indeed supposed to stream his trainings.

We are today very sorry to admit none of these commitments were or are being honored. We really wish for this period to be enough to receive from our player a satisfying answer. We still hope to see Sjow at the top very soon.



Ruurk's statement:

Sjow at the moment is not playing SC2. This means we cannot pay him for being a SC2 player.
If SjoW wants to come back and play we will be glad to continue. If he doesn't however he will not be a paid member of Eclypsia. We believe we can resolve the issue so at the moment we have just ordered a suspension rather than removal.
If SjoW wants to leave the team he is free to go. If he wants to return he is more than welcome but as it stands we cannot pay somebody who is not playing the game they are paid for.


So wait, you haven't first told SjoW about the suspension and let him decide if he wants to leave the team? Instead you decide to post this publicly first?

Wow.


Where does it say they haven't told Sjow about it. It just says that they've suspended his contract because he's not playing SC2 and in the event that he decides he does want to re-commit to SC2 again they'll be happy to resume it.

As for this being posted publicly, meh I think it's fine. It's transparent (presuming it's not hideously biased; given the lack of Sjow anywhere it's not exactly surprising) and I don't see anything wrong with letting fans know the status of team/players, especially in circumstances like this.


Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
October 23 2012 17:20 GMT
#69
wow... most teams in esports are so bad at business. looks like they watched what EG was doing (this part is a good idea if you wanna do better business) and tried to copy it without understanding the point of EG's move and how it differs from what they are doing even in the slightest.

/facepalm
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Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
October 23 2012 17:21 GMT
#70
On October 24 2012 01:52 nath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 01:47 Insoleet wrote:
learn to read dudes. he is suspended for not participating in any tournament, for not streaming, for not going to ministry of win house.... he doesn't even try. you can't pay a player who is afk, that's retarded.


i guess this is why french businesses in general and rules of contracts in france and between french entities and external entities are a fucking joke. they tolerate shitty behavior. is it a cultural thing in france that businesses are allowed to be fucking jokes and not play by any semblance of rules? i know businesses around the world break rules but they at least have to do it in secret and do get caught/punished. i see people from multiple countries including other europeans disgusted with their behavior.

Now this is just defamation.
o choro é livre
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 17:24:53
October 23 2012 17:22 GMT
#71
On October 24 2012 01:47 Fyodor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 01:44 soiii wrote:
"Our player does no perform, so lets just suspend him and bash him in an official statement" - Eclypsia surely stays the biggest joke team out there.

If he's lazy and bad then he should be thankful that it is only a suspension.

More teams should do this IMO. So many contracted players just sit on their ass waiting for divine intervention to give them "teh skills".


why talk about something you have NO effing clue of?



I have nothing to say about this really, except for:

The sc2 dramalevel is TOO DAMN HIGH!
Shadow_Dog
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada427 Posts
October 23 2012 17:22 GMT
#72
People want no fluff and when they get it they cry about it, again. Learn to read. They're not bashing anyone. A lot of Sjow fans are interested in what he's doing.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
October 23 2012 17:22 GMT
#73
If Sjow is inactive completely then I don't see the point in paying him to play SC2. Pay someone who deserves it who is actually practicing.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
October 23 2012 17:25 GMT
#74
On October 24 2012 02:22 Shadow_Dog wrote:
People want no fluff and when they get it they cry about it, again. Learn to read. They're not bashing anyone. A lot of Sjow fans are interested in what he's doing.


They are publicly punishing him though.
None of this needed to be heard. It could have been a simple "sjow goes inactive" thread. Internal problems that didn't start publicly don't need to be made public. It's between EC and Sjow. The fact that they made this public is so pathetic. They didn't get enough attention from sjow being on the team streaming so now they do this to get attention. So sad.
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reapsen
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany559 Posts
October 23 2012 17:27 GMT
#75
On October 24 2012 02:14 nihlon wrote:
People want transparency and when they get it they still complain...


Transparency yes, when there is an argument at hand which consits of different accusations. This issue on the other hand is pretty straight forward and is 100% of clan-internal nature. Posting this, while beeing totally uncalled for, just has an attention-fishing tone to it.
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1105 Posts
October 23 2012 17:28 GMT
#76
Oh the irony of the situation.
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
FlukyS
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland485 Posts
October 23 2012 17:30 GMT
#77
Perfectly valid reason to suspend him, to be fair to Eclipsia they are doing a lot better job recently than when they started.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9224 Posts
October 23 2012 17:31 GMT
#78
Looks like another attention stunt by Eclypsia...
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Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
October 23 2012 17:32 GMT
#79
On October 24 2012 01:40 imMUTAble787 wrote:
Why are you bashing your own player in a public forum ? This does not seem worthy of a post at all.

This. What's the point of publicly bashing Sjow ? This is an internal issue imo...
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
October 23 2012 17:33 GMT
#80
Eclypsia, no one in eSports wants you, just call it a day.
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