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sOOnMaNiAc
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany57 Posts
October 23 2012 23:55 GMT
#241
its just normal to suspend a player who is not doing his work.
bosses dont pay their workers for doing nothing or doing anything else just not their job.

yeah my english sucks i hope you understand what im trying to say ^^
yeastiality
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada374 Posts
October 24 2012 00:04 GMT
#242
Why is it normal to make threads about players leaving/joining/being suspended from teams daily?
I don't find anything interesting about it at all. Maybe if the players were getting paid real amounts of money....
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
October 24 2012 00:12 GMT
#243
Seems legit. I just don't understand the reason for a public statement.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
October 24 2012 00:22 GMT
#244
I skimmed through the 13 pages, and I didn't see a single post expressing regret that Sjow is inactive, or showing any kind of support for Sjow to get his motivation back.

But after all, why post things like
"Aww, Sjow! Common, we heart you get back to that ladder!!"
or
"I miss your stream, where are you??"
or
"go Sjow, we believe!!"

when you can post things like (randomly taking the oneliners from page 3)
"my god, drama again, let's go"
or
"Suspending players is one way for Eclypsia to make news and seem relevant I suppose. Such a joke team."
or
"I didn't even know that he got paid in the first place, did this really require a public announcement?"

Good old SC2 General knows what's important.
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
October 24 2012 00:36 GMT
#245
On October 24 2012 01:44 soiii wrote:
"Our player does not perform, so lets just suspend him and bash him in an official statement" - Eclypsia surely stays the biggest joke team out there.



Thats been known for awhile
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 01:11:51
October 24 2012 01:07 GMT
#246
Ruurk's statement:

Sjow at the moment is not playing SC2. This means we cannot pay him for being a SC2 player.
If SjoW wants to come back and play we will be glad to continue. If he doesn't however he will not be a paid member of Eclypsia. We believe we can resolve the issue so at the moment we have just ordered a suspension rather than removal.
If SjoW wants to leave the team he is free to go. If he wants to return he is more than welcome but as it stands we cannot pay somebody who is not playing the game they are paid for.


well, if this statement is true then it seems fair to me

like, its not good for a team to punish a player for slumping and not producing results. everyone has dry spells. so at first i didnt really think it was fair, but in Ruurk's statement he says SjoW isnt even playing the game at all

nothing wrong with slumping and still getting paid to keep you afloat so you can get back up on the high horse, but if you're not even playing the game and practicing why get paid?
Seldentar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States888 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 02:12:09
October 24 2012 02:10 GMT
#247
Anyone else feel like Eclypsia is constantly the example of what NOT to do if you're running a new team in SC2?

They've been a joke in my mind ever since April Fools. And I'm not one to normally criticize... As a matter of fact this is the first time I've ever posted anything about them as far as I can remember. :S

For clarification in this case the mistake is making this public. We don't need to know about this... Things like this are private matters.
NOOBALOPSE
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada802 Posts
October 24 2012 02:22 GMT
#248
At least keep the reasons hidden instead of bashing him on pubilc forums. How stupid can you get?
Or make up an excuse?
Adamcakez
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia12 Posts
October 24 2012 02:31 GMT
#249
the amount of drama this team has is absurd im surprised they even still exist
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
October 24 2012 02:31 GMT
#250
On October 24 2012 08:55 sOOnMaNiAc wrote:
its just normal to suspend a player who is not doing his work.
bosses dont pay their workers for doing nothing or doing anything else just not their job.

yeah my english sucks i hope you understand what im trying to say ^^

yeah but the boss doesn't go on a fucking forum or a newspaper and make a press release about it
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Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 03:14:11
October 24 2012 03:14 GMT
#251
On October 24 2012 08:55 sOOnMaNiAc wrote:
its just normal to suspend a player who is not doing his work.
bosses dont pay their workers for doing nothing or doing anything else just not their job.

yeah my english sucks i hope you understand what im trying to say ^^


The problem here is not his suspension itself (even though there might be more story to it considering Sjow's post earlier in this thread), but that EC for some reason decided to make a public thread about it and did so in a pretty unprofessional manner:

we can’t but regret his lack of results and motivation. Some may for example remember his elimination from the Battle at Ministry of Win in August right from the first group stage on a 0-2/1-4 score.


This really isn't how you should be treating your players.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
October 24 2012 03:23 GMT
#252
That explains why I haven't seen much of sjow lately. He hasn't even been playing. If what they are saying I'd true then the team is in the right; why pay a player who isn't playing?
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ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
October 24 2012 04:01 GMT
#253
I Agree with Eclypsia with the decision to suspend sjow (assuming what's been said is true and there's nothing deeper) but agree with the forum that this didn't need to be a thread (unless sjow has been bm'ing Eclypsia over it around the web)
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
October 24 2012 04:20 GMT
#254
The SC2 bubble is about to burst anytime soon.
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
ShotgunMike
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden241 Posts
October 24 2012 06:24 GMT
#255
Yeah.. If I played in a team that bashes me in public I would also feel more motivated.. What a joke. If he decides to continue playing SC2 I hope he will find a better team. Unfortunate that Eclypsia just keeps making bad public statements..
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 24 2012 07:13 GMT
#256
On October 24 2012 11:10 Seldentar wrote:
Anyone else feel like Eclypsia is constantly the example of what NOT to do if you're running a new team in SC2?

They've been a joke in my mind ever since April Fools. And I'm not one to normally criticize... As a matter of fact this is the first time I've ever posted anything about them as far as I can remember. :S

For clarification in this case the mistake is making this public. We don't need to know about this... Things like this are private matters.


Well, i could put all my money line and say that if ec would not done this public there would be thread by SjoW or somebody else that he doesnt get paid. I know this community. This time ec was realy smart, they wanted less drama and shit talking about ec. If I would have been EC manager, I had make same.
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ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 07:18:30
October 24 2012 07:13 GMT
#257
On October 24 2012 09:22 Cascade wrote:
I skimmed through the 13 pages, and I didn't see a single post expressing regret that Sjow is inactive, or showing any kind of support for Sjow to get his motivation back.

But after all, why post things like
"Aww, Sjow! Common, we heart you get back to that ladder!!"
or
"I miss your stream, where are you??"
or
"go Sjow, we believe!!"

when you can post things like (randomly taking the oneliners from page 3)
"my god, drama again, let's go"
or
"Suspending players is one way for Eclypsia to make news and seem relevant I suppose. Such a joke team."
or
"I didn't even know that he got paid in the first place, did this really require a public announcement?"

Good old SC2 General knows what's important.

I'm sorry but have you even read the whole thread or are you blatantly taking for granted that this is what happened?

Your post is incredibly ignorant and borderline stupid.

What is your opinion? Stop trolling and get real. READ what people are posting.
On October 24 2012 16:13 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 11:10 Seldentar wrote:
Anyone else feel like Eclypsia is constantly the example of what NOT to do if you're running a new team in SC2?

They've been a joke in my mind ever since April Fools. And I'm not one to normally criticize... As a matter of fact this is the first time I've ever posted anything about them as far as I can remember. :S

For clarification in this case the mistake is making this public. We don't need to know about this... Things like this are private matters.


Well, i could put all my money line and say that if ec would not done this public there would be thread by SjoW or somebody else that he doesnt get paid. I know this community. This time ec was realy smart, they wanted less drama and shit talking about ec. If I would have been EC manager, I had make same.

Oh come on. If they wouldn't have made this public in the first place, it would be very stupid of Sjow to do so himself. And it would hardly look bad for the EC manager if they mad a single post saying exactly what this OP says in such a thread.

I'm so disappointed in this community. Normally I never comment on these things, I did earlier in this thread and then decided to just read what comes out. But it's impossible to keep quite when people are jumping to these stupid conclusions.
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
October 24 2012 07:25 GMT
#258
We are very sorry for the inconvenience it may cause but we feel strongly about punishing a player who has not honored any of the commitments he had signed up for.


Oh the irony...
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give.ViviD
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden235 Posts
October 24 2012 07:37 GMT
#259
SjoW is just lazy and plays Diablo instead of SC, he's not a good player anyway so I don't know why even bother making a deal out of this. And if you do blame SjoW and not his team, because he has actually been stupid enough to not play SC2 and only D3 lately.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 24 2012 07:56 GMT
#260
While the action seems justified, I feel like this could have been dealt with differently. The management should have just sat down with him to talk about his plans and ambitions for SC2, and release him from his contract (with a clause that he won't sign for another team for a certain period) if he doesn't plan on playing SC2 seriously anymore. If this is just a temporary loss of motivation or discipline, they should be supporting and figuring out how to help him rather than penalising him so severely, and publicly at that. All this does is cast more negative light on Eclypsia, which we can all agree, they could do without.
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