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Epoch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada257 Posts
October 23 2012 20:47 GMT
#201
Eclypsia is the shittiest team I've ever heard of. You are taking a non-public matter and bashing your own player publicly for publicity. Suspending him is your own business, publicising it is bad business.

Fuck your stupid team. You won't be around that much longer.

User was temp banned for this post.
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 20:54:02
October 23 2012 20:53 GMT
#202
EC, ask me if I care, I would really like to tell you.













































(I dont)
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
lessQQmorePEWPEW
Profile Joined November 2011
Jamaica921 Posts
October 23 2012 20:57 GMT
#203
one fckin game has so much drama TT im kinda sick of reading all this negative shit. i hope something positive pulls thru for the sc2 scene soon else the exodus will become much greater.
Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly - Bob Marley
Fuego
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom166 Posts
October 23 2012 20:59 GMT
#204
Imagine if a different team had posted something like this, everyone would praise them for their action and transparency. Our community really sucks sometimes.

This seems to be the right decision. If you breach the terms of your contract, you get punished.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
October 23 2012 21:00 GMT
#205
i feel like this incident should have and could have been resolved internally. No one would have known anything about this and it is not like Sjow did something wrong publicly. Stupid team move...again.
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
October 23 2012 21:04 GMT
#206
On October 24 2012 04:09 herMan wrote:
People in this thread are bashing Eclypsia because it's a team with a bad rep. If it was any other team, the decision would be logical. Why pay a player if he's not doing his job?

Well, maybe there's something else brewing in the background that I don't know of. Wouldn't suprise me anymore, since this scene cooks up drama every week.


Nobody is saying that they are wrong for suspending him. However, we are all saying its extremely unprofessional to shame him in public like this, and berate him for his poor results seriously wtf.
Gnarfle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden170 Posts
October 23 2012 21:07 GMT
#207
I am surprised to say the least, Sjow has always made a great impression on me especially for always acting professional. I'll wait for Sjow's statement and see whats up.
Gunz24
Profile Joined June 2011
United States19 Posts
October 23 2012 21:08 GMT
#208
On October 24 2012 05:38 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 05:12 Gunz24 wrote:
Thought it was pretty well known all he's been doing is playing Diablo. Not surprised by this at all.

then they should just drop him. he's no good right?


Yea but who knows what the terms of his contract are. Maybe they can't terminate him until the contract period is up and this is their best recourse. All I'm saying is every time another pro mentions him the words "Diablo 3" come out next.
Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
October 23 2012 21:10 GMT
#209
i appreciate the update. and if he isnt playing SCII it makes no sense to pay him for it.
n.Die_Jaedong
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 21:23:37
October 23 2012 21:22 GMT
#210
On October 24 2012 05:59 Fuego wrote:
Imagine if a different team had posted something like this, everyone would praise them for their action and transparency. Our community really sucks sometimes.

This seems to be the right decision. If you breach the terms of your contract, you get punished.

No, every single team on earth would be criticized for publishing a statement like this. And provided there would be an actual and urgent need to address an issue like this publicly, a professional statement would be characterized by at least:
  1. Stressing that several attempts were made to discuss the issue with the player and that, preferably, both parties came to a mutual agreement.
  2. A brief, clear, and non-dramatic way of writing; not mentioning unnecessary internal details and leaving little room for speculations.
  3. Not degrading the player by, for example, pointing out his latest, subpar tournament results. Seriously, wtf?

In the present case, however, it is completely unclear whether or not there have been internal discussions and what Sjow's position in this entire situation is at all. An appropriate example for a public post would be the Team Liquid/Nony statement released recently.
Mutation complete.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
October 23 2012 21:26 GMT
#211
Expect to hear Jessica releasing a phone conversation for this soon!
BombaySensei
Profile Joined March 2011
United States282 Posts
October 23 2012 21:26 GMT
#212
On October 24 2012 05:35 jdsowa wrote:
Hard to blame him for being a no-sjow. On the one hand it sounds cool to make a living playing a game. But maybe not when that game is dying and neglected by its creator.

LOL - I see what you did there... but I have to agree on all your points.

We certainly do hear about disciplinary actions in other sports (football, baseball, basketball, cycling, etc.). This should be no different.
EE-God, our Dono and Savior (also our sensei)
roym899
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany426 Posts
October 23 2012 21:27 GMT
#213
It's a little bit strange to make it public. But at the same time I think it's not that bad to punish a player who is probably on salary for not training.
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
October 23 2012 21:31 GMT
#214
On October 24 2012 06:27 roym899 wrote:
It's a little bit strange to make it public. But at the same time I think it's not that bad to punish a player who is probably on salary for not training.


Why? You hear about disciplinary actions in other sports all the damn time. Why does this one have to be different?
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
ErAsc2
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden256 Posts
October 23 2012 21:32 GMT
#215
On October 24 2012 05:47 Epoch wrote:
Eclypsia is the shittiest team I've ever heard of. You are taking a non-public matter and bashing your own player publicly for publicity. Suspending him is your own business, publicising it is bad business.

Fuck your stupid team. You won't be around that much longer.

This is exactly what I was thinking, couldn't have written it better myself (the first part anyways). In the EG case, they were making it public because people had to know why he wasn't entering tournaments. I don't get what pushed eclypsia to even make a thread about this.
Swedish GM Protoss http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2336142/1/MilkEA/
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
October 23 2012 21:34 GMT
#216
So now teams start to punish players and Eclypsia jumps on that PR wagon, like every PR is good PR?
This team has always been one of the most unprofessional teams out there, no wonder players lose their interest in playing for them.
schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
October 23 2012 21:37 GMT
#217
On October 24 2012 06:32 ErAsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 05:47 Epoch wrote:
Eclypsia is the shittiest team I've ever heard of. You are taking a non-public matter and bashing your own player publicly for publicity. Suspending him is your own business, publicising it is bad business.

Fuck your stupid team. You won't be around that much longer.

This is exactly what I was thinking, couldn't have written it better myself (the first part anyways). In the EG case, they were making it public because people had to know why he wasn't entering tournaments. I don't get what pushed eclypsia to even make a thread about this.


Well not so much because of him not entering tournaments but more so people wouldn't go whining to sponsors. In this case EC just had positive sponsor news, so it was obviously time.
Change to MY nostalgia? UNACCEPTABLE! Monkey paaaw!
XaMaXaM
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany113 Posts
October 23 2012 21:38 GMT
#218
Yeah now EC is a pro team *ironie off*
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 21:44:37
October 23 2012 21:42 GMT
#219
Why would you publish that?
To show that you dont tolerate if your players dont train: NO. Because the other players know so or so.
To show tell him a lesson: NO. You do so by not paying him,
To get a little bit attention and hope you can hop on the drama train: YES!

Im sorry. The train already left without you. Wait and try to get the next drama train.
GL
Save gaming: kill esport
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
October 23 2012 21:52 GMT
#220
IF EC WOULD NOT HAVE MADE THIS PUBLIC, THERE WOULD BE 1000 POST THREAD ASKING WHAT THE FUCK EC IS DOING AND NOT TELLING ABOUT IT ANYTHING.

What's so wrong to get this? If SjoW doesn't play, ofc he should not get salary. When this is public, it also helps other to know what's going on.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
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