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Rantech
Profile Joined April 2010
Chile527 Posts
October 23 2012 20:06 GMT
#181
I agree with the team so far, but im curious as to how sjow would respond to this being made public and his thoughts about the issue ofc.
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
October 23 2012 20:09 GMT
#182
This makes sense why are people mad, you don't get paid when you don't do your job.
Sc2 always got your back
IamAnton
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada335 Posts
October 23 2012 20:10 GMT
#183
If he's actually not playing SC2, whilst been paid as a SC2 gamer I'm totally fine in suspending him.
"Man created God in his own image." - Ludwig Feuerbach
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
October 23 2012 20:11 GMT
#184
On October 24 2012 01:40 imMUTAble787 wrote:
Why are you bashing your own player in a public forum ? This does not seem worthy of a post at all.

agreed.
This is different to the case of Nony and Stephano where the public was involved to begin with.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
October 23 2012 20:12 GMT
#185
On October 24 2012 04:17 Raysalis wrote:
Sjow should just leave EC. I think we have enough evidence and history to show that EC is a complete joke

You're not serious right? You can't be serious.
Gunz24
Profile Joined June 2011
United States19 Posts
October 23 2012 20:12 GMT
#186
Thought it was pretty well known all he's been doing is playing Diablo. Not surprised by this at all.
theBlues
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
El Salvador638 Posts
October 23 2012 20:13 GMT
#187
On October 24 2012 01:59 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 01:40 imMUTAble787 wrote:
Why are you bashing your own player in a public forum ? This does not seem worthy of a post at all.

Yea I don't get this.

The EG / Stephano stuff was damage control and PR. It was already public and they had to do something.
This is just... I don't get it. Someone didn't do what they said they would do so you're not paying them for a month? Why is that public information?



My guess is they are doing a preemptive strike in case Sjow had the idea of creating a thread complaining about not getting paid...
Change a vote, and change the world
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 20:14:50
October 23 2012 20:14 GMT
#188
The hate comes from the fact that they made a public announcement. There's no need for this. They could have silently suspended him and be done with it, nobody would have known. Instead they damage their own player's reputation.

It was a non-public incident (how many of you knew that he stopped playing?), it should be a non-public response.
Stephano was a public incident, and it got a public response. That's how it works.


Well actually i think it's a public incident if you relate that to how well Sjow is known. He may not be one of the "superstars" of the scene, but he's definitely a known progamer, and i think many people noticed that he was playing a lot of d3 and wasn't streaming starcraft at all.

And regarding to "how it works", if you look at every other sport, Eclipsia did it exactly "they way it works". I don't know if you read my whole reply but if a player gets suspended and the team doesn't make a public announcement, and the player wants to drag them down afterwards, it just doesn't matter if he's right or not, the team will be in a very terrible position.

This whole topic is enough of a proof to show why a team wants to make their opinion public first, just imagine what kind of shitstorm would commence if a player who got suspended rightfully wants to start drama and post some totally biased version of what happened a few days afterwards.
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
October 23 2012 20:15 GMT
#189
What, nony got suspended? or what are you talking about?
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
October 23 2012 20:19 GMT
#190
Sjow...who ?
Just kidding i know who this is and i agree with your decision to suspend him,not providing good results is one thing but his online visibility is bad these days,can't even see him in go4 or playhem,not to mention non-existent stream...


RIP MKP
SparePartsHere
Profile Joined July 2012
Slovakia5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 20:26:33
October 23 2012 20:26 GMT
#191
Yeah, I was looking forward to seeing him stream more after joining Eclypsia, he even streamed for a few days... and then he stopped. He is one of my favorite progamers, that's why I know.
During those few days that he streamed, he always seemed kinda distracted and distant, one could tell his heart was not in it. I don't think he will practice sc2 any time soon.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 23 2012 20:26 GMT
#192
On October 24 2012 05:15 leveller wrote:
What, nony got suspended? or what are you talking about?


http://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2012/10/18/statement-on-nony-and-gsl-world-championships
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
October 23 2012 20:29 GMT
#193
On October 24 2012 05:13 theBlues wrote:
My guess is they are doing a preemptive strike in case Sjow had the idea of creating a thread complaining about not getting paid...

It's not like that thread isn't gonna get posted anyway. It's a matter of time.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 20:35:06
October 23 2012 20:33 GMT
#194
On October 24 2012 01:40 imMUTAble787 wrote:
Why are you bashing your own player in a public forum ? This does not seem worthy of a post at all.

^ this. Hold yourself with some bloody dignity. We don't need to know if you're suspending a player unless it is so egregious that the community is already aware of why he is being suspended. You're hurting SjoW by publicly shaming him and hurting your team image even more by your lack of tact.

Unless you're doing it maliciously so he resigns..
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
jdsowa
Profile Joined March 2011
405 Posts
October 23 2012 20:35 GMT
#195
Hard to blame him for being a no-sjow. On the one hand it sounds cool to make a living playing a game. But maybe not when that game is dying and neglected by its creator.
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
October 23 2012 20:38 GMT
#196
On October 24 2012 05:12 Gunz24 wrote:
Thought it was pretty well known all he's been doing is playing Diablo. Not surprised by this at all.

then they should just drop him. he's no good right?
Kamakiri
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden312 Posts
October 23 2012 20:39 GMT
#197
I would like for this team to disappear.
cancer lancer, faceless cancer
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 23 2012 20:42 GMT
#198
On October 24 2012 05:39 Kamakiri wrote:
I would like for this team to disappear.

Well, i haven't heard anything positive from them so... ya i somewhat agree, but as long as they don't do shit to their players i don't mind.
ThreeActPlay
Profile Joined April 2011
United States249 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 20:44:59
October 23 2012 20:42 GMT
#199
Not sure why the team is taking flak for this. Player fails to meet contractual obligations, player gets suspended. Granted Eclypsia has a spotty track record, but until SjoW responds, I see no reason to badmouth the team oO

I really don't understand why every conflict between management and players, the community sides with the players. Sure, they are good at Starcraft and entertain you with games, but management are the people who support them with income and fly them out to tournaments so that you get that entertainment. Not every player is a saint, just like not every management-type figure is a saint.
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FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
October 23 2012 20:44 GMT
#200
More and more incentive to the LoL scene... after watching Legend of the Swarm last night on GSL, even though it was a joke on the show, it was kind of ironic because many players are actually switching to LoL.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
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