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Raysalis
Profile Joined July 2010
Malaysia1034 Posts
October 23 2012 19:17 GMT
#161
Sjow should just leave EC. I think we have enough evidence and history to show that EC is a complete joke
:)
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
October 23 2012 19:18 GMT
#162
lol, you can't be serious. I mean, your reasoning makes sense, but your team is just sooo pathetic...
@nowSimon
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 19:27:14
October 23 2012 19:23 GMT
#163
okay guys, its fact-check time!:

Let's assume the statements made by Eclipsia are true and not to biased, then we got the following situation:

1. Sjow is paid a salary by Eclipsia, and part of his contract is to stream and be an active sc2 player.
2. Sjow doesn't play (much) Starcraft 2 at the moment, and he does not stream, and hasn't streamed for the past few months.(which seems to be true, if you look at the viewer statistics here on TL, e.g the top 50 streamer list)

Conclusion => Eclipsia suspends him because he's not following his contract. I don't know where all the hate comes from again, but if you hire an employee and he doesn't show up for three consecutive months i wonder what you're going to do.

Regarding the fact that they made a public statement, i think that's the common way to do it in most sports. Because if you don't do it, and the player starts to go on a rant about it a few days later, you'll have a very hard time getting the facts right.

Because if you look at this threat and keep in mind that this isn't even drama worthy or shady at all, and the community still starts to bash a team blindy, you shouldn't really wonder why they want to state their opinion first.


And it doesn't even play the tiniest role what Eclipsia did in the past or did not do, a hired player needs to actually play the game, if he doesn't he gets fired, just because Eclipsia did poorly in the past doesn't make this decision wrong.
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 19:25:12
October 23 2012 19:24 GMT
#164
How ironic, considering all the Eclypsia PR history...

GungraveHero2
Profile Joined October 2011
57 Posts
October 23 2012 19:25 GMT
#165
sjow need to play for get pay , he did not
sjow need to stream for get pay , he did not

so he dont get pay that just simple logic , why all the hate about the team ?

you guy are funny some time .
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 19:28:37
October 23 2012 19:27 GMT
#166
On October 24 2012 04:23 Nyxisto wrote:
okay guys, its fact-check time!:

Let's assume the statements made by Eclipsia are true and not to biased, then we got the following situation:

1. Sjow is paid a salary by Eclipsia, and part of his contract is to stream and be an active sc2 player.
2. Sjow doesn't play (much) Starcraft 2 at the moment, and he does not stream, and hasn't streamed for the past few months.(which seems to be true, if you look at the viewer statistics here on TL, e.g the top 50 streamer list)

Conclusion => Eclipsia suspends him because he's not following his contract. I don't know where all the hate comes from again, but if you hire an employee and he doesn't show up for three consecutive months i wonder what you're going to do.

Regarding the fact that they made a public statement, i think that's the common way to do it in most sports. Because if you don't do it, and the player starts to go on a rant about it a few days later, you'll have a very hard time getting the facts right.

Because if you look at this threat and keep in mind that this isn't even drama worthy or shady at all, and the community still starts to bash a team blindy, you shouldn't really wonder why they want to state their opinion first.



people are stupid as fuck and have a bias against eclypsia because of previous problems so they believe that everything eclypsia does is wrong. im not a fan of eclypsia but reading the replies in this page gave me a headache. "why are u bashing ur own player?!??!" they're not. its just a press release.

edit: ps this isn't "drama". it's just something that happened. i wish people would stop calling everything drama.
Maruprime.
Tailss
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 19:30:19
October 23 2012 19:30 GMT
#167
Eclypsia is such a joke team. I really hope sjow leaves and finds a better home.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
October 23 2012 19:32 GMT
#168
On October 24 2012 04:17 Raysalis wrote:
Sjow should just leave EC. I think we have enough evidence and history to show that EC is a complete joke


I think hes in dignitas if im not mistaken right now?
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 19:34:42
October 23 2012 19:33 GMT
#169
On October 24 2012 03:07 Ender985 wrote:
SlayerS`SjoW incoming!!

No but seriously, was it needed for eclypsia to post this info?


Where have you been over the past couple of days. On some LoL page ?
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
October 23 2012 19:33 GMT
#170
On October 24 2012 04:32 SilSol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 04:17 Raysalis wrote:
Sjow should just leave EC. I think we have enough evidence and history to show that EC is a complete joke


I think hes in dignitas if im not mistaken right now?


He left, went back & then left again.
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
October 23 2012 19:34 GMT
#171
On October 24 2012 02:57 SjoW wrote:
Statement will come soon about my future with EC in a couple of days, stayed tuned ^^


you go girl
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
Soda-88
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia476 Posts
October 23 2012 19:35 GMT
#172
9 pages and no mention of his Diablo 3 grinding?

Lol
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 19:43:34
October 23 2012 19:41 GMT
#173
He doesn't play enough so they suspend him so he plays even less? I don't get it. I would get if they would just not pay him if he isn't following through his part of the contract. Or even if the contract would be dissolved(or whatever the term is).

It seems strange that they made this public.
herMan
Profile Joined November 2010
Japan2054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 19:48:26
October 23 2012 19:48 GMT
#174
Agree. We really shouldn't know about this in the first place.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
October 23 2012 19:48 GMT
#175
On October 24 2012 04:23 Nyxisto wrote:
okay guys, its fact-check time!:

Let's assume the statements made by Eclipsia are true and not to biased, then we got the following situation:

1. Sjow is paid a salary by Eclipsia, and part of his contract is to stream and be an active sc2 player.
2. Sjow doesn't play (much) Starcraft 2 at the moment, and he does not stream, and hasn't streamed for the past few months.(which seems to be true, if you look at the viewer statistics here on TL, e.g the top 50 streamer list)

Conclusion => Eclipsia suspends him because he's not following his contract. I don't know where all the hate comes from again, but if you hire an employee and he doesn't show up for three consecutive months i wonder what you're going to do.

Regarding the fact that they made a public statement, i think that's the common way to do it in most sports. Because if you don't do it, and the player starts to go on a rant about it a few days later, you'll have a very hard time getting the facts right.

Because if you look at this threat and keep in mind that this isn't even drama worthy or shady at all, and the community still starts to bash a team blindy, you shouldn't really wonder why they want to state their opinion first.


And it doesn't even play the tiniest role what Eclipsia did in the past or did not do, a hired player needs to actually play the game, if he doesn't he gets fired, just because Eclipsia did poorly in the past doesn't make this decision wrong.

The hate comes from the fact that they made a public announcement. There's no need for this. They could have silently suspended him and be done with it, nobody would have known. Instead they damage their own player's reputation.

It was a non-public incident (how many of you knew that he stopped playing?), it should be a non-public response.
Stephano was a public incident, and it got a public response. That's how it works.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
October 23 2012 19:56 GMT
#176
On October 24 2012 04:48 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 04:23 Nyxisto wrote:
okay guys, its fact-check time!:

Let's assume the statements made by Eclipsia are true and not to biased, then we got the following situation:

1. Sjow is paid a salary by Eclipsia, and part of his contract is to stream and be an active sc2 player.
2. Sjow doesn't play (much) Starcraft 2 at the moment, and he does not stream, and hasn't streamed for the past few months.(which seems to be true, if you look at the viewer statistics here on TL, e.g the top 50 streamer list)

Conclusion => Eclipsia suspends him because he's not following his contract. I don't know where all the hate comes from again, but if you hire an employee and he doesn't show up for three consecutive months i wonder what you're going to do.

Regarding the fact that they made a public statement, i think that's the common way to do it in most sports. Because if you don't do it, and the player starts to go on a rant about it a few days later, you'll have a very hard time getting the facts right.

Because if you look at this threat and keep in mind that this isn't even drama worthy or shady at all, and the community still starts to bash a team blindy, you shouldn't really wonder why they want to state their opinion first.


And it doesn't even play the tiniest role what Eclipsia did in the past or did not do, a hired player needs to actually play the game, if he doesn't he gets fired, just because Eclipsia did poorly in the past doesn't make this decision wrong.

The hate comes from the fact that they made a public announcement. There's no need for this. They could have silently suspended him and be done with it, nobody would have known. Instead they damage their own player's reputation.

It was a non-public incident (how many of you knew that he stopped playing?), it should be a non-public response.
Stephano was a public incident, and it got a public response. That's how it works.


This guy knows what he is talking about. Other people need to get a clue(we are after all leaving them here in there, its not just random hate).
TL+ Member
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 19:59:36
October 23 2012 19:58 GMT
#177
On October 24 2012 04:35 Soda-88 wrote:
9 pages and no mention of his Diablo 3 grinding?

Lol


who needs to get paid by their pro team when you can just earn money with the auction house.

i cant believe people are giving EC shit for this lol. sure theyve fucked up in the past but they are 100% in the right here, now, making a public statement about it is probably a bit silly ;p sure if the news was front page stuff they would need to respond. but i dont know if people should see every bit of dirty laundry.
Catatonic
Profile Joined August 2011
United States699 Posts
October 23 2012 19:58 GMT
#178
Untrustworthy team suspends a player for being untrustworthy? Oh the irony
T: DeMuslim SeleCT. P: Naniwa Genius. Z: IdrA Destiny Team: EG
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
October 23 2012 20:01 GMT
#179
On October 24 2012 04:58 Catatonic wrote:
Untrustworthy team suspends a player for being untrustworthy? Oh the irony


what is it with all the hate about eclypsia?
there wasnt a whole lot happening with the team, it was just the one thing where 3 players left at the same time which was months ago???

SjoW is hopping off and on teams all the time, plays 95% d3 as it seems and you guys defend him.
To me it seems like SjoW has a contract with EC that he doesnt give a shit about while still gaining money from them. am i wrong?
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 23 2012 20:03 GMT
#180
EG set the standard of suspension punishments it seems. First EG then Liquid now EC. Pretty weird way to punish players who most of the time make barely enough money to get by as it is. I hope this doesn't become the standard means to resolve player/team conflicts.
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