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Eclypsia suspends SjoW - Page 7

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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
October 23 2012 18:18 GMT
#121
I don't understand why Eclypsia made a topic for this.
I had a good night of sleep.
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 18:23:37
October 23 2012 18:19 GMT
#122
On October 24 2012 03:18 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand why Eclypsia made a topic for this.

PR

Edit: It's kinda obvious. Any advertisement is an advertisement. For example, I forgot that such a team even existed, but now they reminded me of it. It works, actually. XD
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
October 23 2012 18:21 GMT
#123
On October 24 2012 03:19 Hemula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 03:18 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand why Eclypsia made a topic for this.

PR


Not for PR, for attention. Eclypsia is the typical teenage attention whore, who will do and say anything to get people to look at them, regardless of what the end result may be.
Teodice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden641 Posts
October 23 2012 18:22 GMT
#124
I agree with most of the previous posts. A bit tired of this bashing of your own players. It would be one thing if you had removed him from your team and make a public statement. Keep internal stuff internal. Sure teams want publicity but keep this kind of stuff to your own webpage.

I hope to see SjoW return to practice and competition soon! He´s a awesome guy and interesting player!
You will still be here tomorrow, but your dreams may not
Bedrock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
October 23 2012 18:22 GMT
#125
This is really bad press. Why would you even do it.. it's your own team? You better be trolling.
eSports or die tryin'
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 18:25:07
October 23 2012 18:24 GMT
#126
On October 24 2012 03:19 Hemula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 03:18 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand why Eclypsia made a topic for this.

PR

But just handle it internally? This hardly concerns anyone but the parties involved. It just makes sjow look bad and eclypsia like a shitty employer for bringing it out in public
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
October 23 2012 18:25 GMT
#127
On October 24 2012 03:18 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand why Eclypsia made a topic for this.


Every major team in every major sport would release a press statement in regards to a suspension. This is the equivilent of a press statement. Team liquid while being a community/Forum/team is also "E-sports press".
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
Aeceus
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1278 Posts
October 23 2012 18:25 GMT
#128
On October 24 2012 01:40 imMUTAble787 wrote:
Why are you bashing your own player in a public forum ? This does not seem worthy of a post at all.


Its a news post with information. Get real.
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
October 23 2012 18:27 GMT
#129
On October 24 2012 03:21 SolHeiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 03:19 Hemula wrote:
On October 24 2012 03:18 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand why Eclypsia made a topic for this.

PR


Not for PR, for attention. Eclypsia is the typical teenage attention whore, who will do and say anything to get people to look at them, regardless of what the end result may be.

Oh, I am sorry, I did not mean "public relations", it's just that this word became a synonim for advertisement in russian language >_<. But now I realised that it doesn't mean exactly that in english, woo, sorry. ^_^"
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
October 23 2012 18:27 GMT
#130
If he didn't follow his contract then he deserves to get suspended, and the public has an expectation of a right to know when suspensions happen.

People just hate on EC because it's fashionable now. Last year sure they did 3-4 things deserving of the very negative reactions they got, but now it's just "Oh, this thread is about Eclypsia? Well I'm gonna go talk shit on 'em because that's what everyone does."
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FnaticPink
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark324 Posts
October 23 2012 18:29 GMT
#131
On October 24 2012 01:49 Al Bundy wrote:
You want your players to stream their training, well that's a bad decision, Mr. Eclypsia. That's all I have to say about this. Unless your so-called training is mindless laddering.

@Sjow: you've become a puppet, man. Really unfortunate.


Don't think you have seen a player contract. There are usually requirements of 20+ hours of weekly practice and they are fully able to punish him without his approval, which means he was a 'puppet' (atleast the way you seem to think of one) since he signed it.
Enearde
Profile Joined February 2011
France265 Posts
October 23 2012 18:30 GMT
#132
I like how 97% of the post in this thread are like "Listen EC, i know my shit about business, i'll tell you how to do it" and 2 other % are "lololol EC shitty team because you suspended a player i like!"

Get real people, every team in any sport would make a public statement about a player who is being suspended, that's called transparency and it's a GOOD THING. So please, don't make assumptions and speculations when you don't know shit about what you're talking about...

IMO, it's a good move to make a statement, at least we will know the reasons behind Sjow's possible departure from the team or increase in streaming hours.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9858 Posts
October 23 2012 18:31 GMT
#133
Man Eclypsia is just an awful organization.

Everything I've read about them has been bad news, and I don't think they have done one good thing for the community, I just see shit that comes out of what they do. Nobody cares about them anymore, they have a terrible reputation...

Do people even want to see them on Teamliquid? I don't see how they can make any money since nobody likes them... I don't if they can just be expelled from the website in a similar way to CombatEX. Eclypsia handed this very unprofessionally, and I feel like this organization is run by a bunch of attention seeking 20 year olds.

I hope my dissatisfaction with the team doesn't come off as too hostile, but I'm just really upset with them, and don't think they bring any positive light to the community, or our respected players.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-23 18:34:08
October 23 2012 18:32 GMT
#134
So the guy got inactive, stopped playing SC2 and the team no longer felt like they wanted to pay him. Why are you even making a public announcement about this?
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ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
October 23 2012 18:35 GMT
#135
On October 24 2012 03:27 DeepElemBlues wrote:
If he didn't follow his contract then he deserves to get suspended, and the public has an expectation of a right to know when suspensions happen.

People just hate on EC because it's fashionable now. Last year sure they did 3-4 things deserving of the very negative reactions they got, but now it's just "Oh, this thread is about Eclypsia? Well I'm gonna go talk shit on 'em because that's what everyone does."


Lol in what retarded world do we have a right to know when disciplinary action is taken? Do you expect your bosses to announce it in the workplace when this sort of thing happens too?

"Crew, sally was late today so were gonna have to dock her pay this week. You are entitled to know this because her being late does not benefit or affect you at all."

Yeah, what you said carries no weight.
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amiGo_O
Profile Joined February 2012
Czech Republic959 Posts
October 23 2012 18:35 GMT
#136
good move from Eclypsia, players are employees and they need to behave like that, SjoW had problems with motivation like two years ago if I remeber correctly (question is why they even signed him in the first place?)
hope EC will spend their money on players who actually want to play Stacraft ....
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Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
October 23 2012 18:40 GMT
#137
On October 24 2012 03:13 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 01:47 Fyodor wrote:
On October 24 2012 01:44 soiii wrote:
"Our player does no perform, so lets just suspend him and bash him in an official statement" - Eclypsia surely stays the biggest joke team out there.

If he's lazy and bad then he should be thankful that it is only a suspension.

More teams should do this IMO. So many contracted players just sit on their ass waiting for divine intervention to give them "teh skills".


agreed, shame everyone is simply going to shit on EC


Well there's two problems with it.

1) They shouldn't be making a press statement about it, it just comes off as immature and a cheap attempt at some publicity. Not only that, it makes their player feel like shit. This is something that has to be resolved internally, and if it comes to a suspension then do it and keep it quiet.

2) One month without pay seems extreme for these pro gamers who don't make much money as it is. If these extreme punishment start becoming commonplace than esports quickly goes from getting paid doing what you love to all business. I don't want to hear about money, salaries, PPV's, etc... this is competitive gaming trying to grow it's too soon to get corporate!
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 23 2012 18:45 GMT
#138
Don't really much to make this threadworthy though.

Maybe just should have posted it on the website and have been done with it.

Or just a blog or something.
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leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
October 23 2012 18:45 GMT
#139
It doesn't matter if he deserved it or not, it doesn't matter if you think, for some godforsaken reason, that you have a "right to know", its just classless to bash your own player and display his poor results like this.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
October 23 2012 18:46 GMT
#140
did they double his wage when they screwed up the planes ticket and he got stucked in the airport on his way to DH Valencia?
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