On October 28 2012 05:05 ellirc wrote: Sjow is right now on stream at http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/spela/esport/article15655870.ab saying how he has not been playing SC2 at all basically for quite some time. Seems like he is officially going to leave SC2 progaming very soon even though he is playing in this tournament. He said he just enjoys coming to the event for other reasons, not for playing.
Looks like people can put their pitchforks down and eclypsia was right in suspending sjow as it looks like he plans to quit anyways, so shouldn't be paid for not playing.
I want to reiterate that I agree with the suspension, but not going public with it like this.
On October 28 2012 05:05 ellirc wrote: Sjow is right now on stream at http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/spela/esport/article15655870.ab saying how he has not been playing SC2 at all basically for quite some time. Seems like he is officially going to leave SC2 progaming very soon even though he is playing in this tournament. He said he just enjoys coming to the event for other reasons, not for playing.
Looks like people can put their pitchforks down and eclypsia was right in suspending sjow as it looks like he plans to quit anyways, so shouldn't be paid for not playing.
I want to reiterate that I agree with the suspension, but not going public with it like this.
I like the transparency and it's a refreshing change for esports as most like to be cloak and dagger and keep things secret. Real sports publicize internal suspensions all the time.
On October 28 2012 05:05 ellirc wrote: Sjow is right now on stream at http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/spela/esport/article15655870.ab saying how he has not been playing SC2 at all basically for quite some time. Seems like he is officially going to leave SC2 progaming very soon even though he is playing in this tournament. He said he just enjoys coming to the event for other reasons, not for playing.
Looks like people can put their pitchforks down and eclypsia was right in suspending sjow as it looks like he plans to quit anyways, so shouldn't be paid for not playing.
I want to reiterate that I agree with the suspension, but not going public with it like this.
I like the transparency and it's a refreshing change for esports as most like to be cloak and dagger and keep things secret. Real sports publicize internal suspensions all the time.
Like EG did with Stephano, although that was of course of a different nature.
This thread just shows that no matter what Eclypsia do, people here will hate on them. They are kind of fucked.
Dignitas manager Newman stated on the GD show that the reason they got rid of him was because he wanted more money + he was only playing Diablo 3 and wasn't practicing sc2 at all. So I'm not really suprised, I've also heard he hasnt showed for a lot of other tournaments he's been signed up to (for example esports-sm qualifiers).
tl is nothing different from reddit, 15 pages and just 2 of them have comments actually regarding the topic at hand, the other 13 are mindlessly bashing EC for things they are not to bash for.
in real life, if you don't do your job, you don't get paid. Sjow probably signed a contract that obliged him to train/stream which he didn't fulfill. you know in the real world you get fired faster than a photon particle if you simply stop doing your job. so in a way he is lucky that he is still in the team.
doesn't matter what the reputation of the team is (note that all the drama was basically caused by monkey level intelligent reddit and tl readers... like calling a VISIBLE stream auto play on the page a scam lol), and nobody cares that you like sjow, if he doesn't get money for doing nothing that is not a huge un-justice in the world.
reading the responses in this thread makes me realize what kind of retarded trash people write letters to sponsors etc.
I honestly don't know why they had to announce this. I agree with the consequences Sjow got, but I don't think it had to be announced. The announcement itself wasn't very professional either.
I mean, they used SarenS's account? Step it up, Eclypsia, if you want to improve your reputation.
Honestly, why do mods tolerate 15 pages full of people who can't read and understand what this is about and posting the same bullshit worded differently over and over? Eclypsia has good reason to suspend Sjow apparently and making it public is not wrong at all.
On October 24 2012 01:47 Insoleet wrote: learn to read dudes. he is suspended for not participating in any tournament, for not streaming, for not going to ministry of win house.... he doesn't even try. you can't pay a player who is afk, that's retarded.
figures, only 3 people in this thread had this outlook on the situation, rather than the more likely "eclypsia is a joke" (which i agree with). 2 were from france.
i guess this is why french businesses in general and rules of contracts in france and between french entities and external entities are a fucking joke. they tolerate shitty behavior. is it a cultural thing in france that businesses are allowed to be fucking jokes and not play by any semblance of rules? i know businesses around the world break rules but they at least have to do it in secret and do get caught/punished. i see people from multiple countries including other europeans disgusted with their behavior.
On October 30 2012 02:09 transcendent one wrote: lol so many stupid children here.
in real life, if you don't do your job, you don't get paid. Sjow probably signed a contract that obliged him to train/stream which he didn't fulfill. you know in the real world you get fired faster than a photon particle if you simply stop doing your job. so in a way he is lucky that he is still in the team.
doesn't matter what the reputation of the team is (note that all the drama was basically caused by monkey level intelligent reddit and tl readers... like calling a VISIBLE stream auto play on the page a scam lol), and nobody cares that you like sjow, if he doesn't get money for doing nothing that is not a huge un-justice in the world.
reading the responses in this thread makes me realize what kind of retarded trash people write letters to sponsors etc.
Have you read the thread and taken notice of what most people, including Jinro, were disliking about the OP?
Hm seems harsh for the terms of agreement, but 30 days is enough time to decide if one wants to continue to play. I'm sorry for his Sjow you are a nice and great player, all the best in convincing your team you deserve pay. *PS: Beat someone famous, Idra or Stephano, etc, and back into it *
Sounds like people would have preferred a thread with the same title, but an OP that said, "We're suspending SjoW temporarily..."
I like what they did: make a claim, then back it up. If they didn't give the back up, everyone would have just cried out about how they did it for no reason and how crappy of a team they are.