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[Video] MVP´s Missles vs Nestea IEM - Page 4
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Zergrusher
United States562 Posts
Its true and yes it is hilarious XD | ||
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garlicface
Canada4196 Posts
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
On August 17 2012 06:39 Zergrusher wrote: want to know whats really ironic? the fact that back in BW a Foriegn terran made a thread or something like that saying that Science vessels were "useless" and then once people figured out how to use them... they became used frequently. doesn't that sound very farmiliar? Except SK/Soulkey was using the Sci Vessel in a completely separate building; the issue is that not only are Ravens really bad in general (slow, turn speed is bad, and they need to store up energy to use their mediocre at best abilities), they also tie up a building that produces the much needed Medivacs to combat Infestors. There's alot of key differences between the Ravens and Sci Vessel that will always make the Sci Vessel much more useful. One being that Sci Vessel has an all-purpose killing tool in Irradiate that has multiple uses (kills units, harass workers, can snipe Defilers with them, etc.) while the Raven has no multi-purpose spell. | ||
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knicyo
177 Posts
 'When will the missiles come? WHEN WILL MVP SHOOT!?!?!' and then when you heard Day9 scream, you knew that shit was about to go down!! Awesome game, both games against NesTea was cool, recommend watching. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On August 17 2012 07:13 superstartran wrote: Except SK/Soulkey was using the Sci Vessel in a completely separate building; the issue is that not only are Ravens really bad in general (slow, turn speed is bad, and they need to store up energy to use their mediocre at best abilities), they also tie up a building that produces the much needed Medivacs to combat Infestors. There's alot of key differences between the Ravens and Sci Vessel that will always make the Sci Vessel much more useful. One being that Sci Vessel has an all-purpose killing tool in Irradiate that has multiple uses (kills units, harass workers, can snipe Defilers with them, etc.) while the Raven has no multi-purpose spell. eraser!!!! | ||
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pmp10
3389 Posts
This thread is an excellent example why units and abilities that desperately need a redesign will never get it. As long as they can be used in any circumstance a horde of people will proclaim them fine and balanced but underused and not figured-out. A real shame but perhaps it is what must happen when a game is balanced by measuring the outrage of the spectators. | ||
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
On August 17 2012 07:16 pmp10 wrote: It's such a sad picture that can be garnered from posts here. This thread is an excellent example why units and abilities that desperately need a redesign will never get it. As long as they can be used in any circumstance a horde of people will proclaim them fine and balanced but underused and not figured-out. A real shame but perhaps it is what must happen when a game is balanced by measuring the outrage of the spectators. Pretty much; Nestea engaged in a terrible position and made Blords on a map that is notoriously bad for utilizing Blords (mainly because you can get backstabbed by Medivac drops/nuke harassment so easily and can't react). | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On August 17 2012 06:44 jinorazi wrote: am i the only one thinking: "i wish those were irradiates" because the game wont end in two seconds and gave nestea(zerg) to micro minimize damage and intensify the game. (pre-emptive micro-spreading vs aoe < real time micro-picking out irradiated) You're not alone. This is in the exactly same way as FG, just retarded. One split second and the game is over. Blizzard really should focus on, like you said, real time micro, rather than pre-emptive micro. | ||
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Cirqueenflex
499 Posts
And since both Kas and MVP went for Ravens late game, the unit seems to be way better than people think they are. As those two players are top-notch and have a huge amount of experience | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On August 17 2012 07:18 superstartran wrote: Pretty much; Nestea engaged in a terrible position and made Blords on a map that is notoriously bad for utilizing Blords (mainly because you can get backstabbed by Medivac drops/nuke harassment so easily and can't react). The map is even worse for any sort of ground play. And well, that's what happens when you move in SC2. You clump and respread and clump and respread etc. It's exactly the same principle like banelings or infestors or storms vs marines and marauders... | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On August 17 2012 07:36 Cirqueenflex wrote: to all of you demanding that the raven is still a bad unit and you need that Starport for Medivacs/Vikings - Kas did slay NesTea 2:0. And he did it with a ton of Ravens. And he did not win because he was lucky and cought tightly stacked air units with Seeker Missiler, instead he mostly used Auto-Turrets and PDDs. How did he get up that many Ravens? Firstly, he got more than one Starport. And second, he did not build many Medivacs. As weird as this may sound, Terran can actually fight, even if not every single Marine has his own Medivac. And since both Kas and MVP went for Ravens late game, the unit seems to be way better than people think they are. As those two players are top-notch and have a huge amount of experience I only saw the Metropolis game Kas vs Nestea, but that game aswell as this moment, Nestea was out of position with his infestors. After Nestea had forced a ton of vikings and ravens, Nestea kept going BL+corruptor rather than ultra switch. Kas engaged when Nestea's air force was between his 3rd and 4th and Kas came from the side and sniped a ton of stuff before Nestea could respond. That's not really a matter of ravens being good, that's just Nestea playing rather poor. Frankly that game, I don't feel the ravens did that much, if all those ravens had been vikings, I still think Kas would've won(except I suppose Nestea wouldn't have gone the 2nd round of air units). | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
Honestly, if MVP just put all those resources into Vikings instead of Ravens, and controlled properly like he did with the Ravens, he would have crushed Nestea just as hard. Just wouldn't have been as pretty. | ||
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bLecK
Australia625 Posts
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On August 17 2012 08:06 bLecK wrote: You're all missing one crucial detail... MVP's mouth was open. hahahahhahahhahahahahha :o | ||
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Zergrusher
United States562 Posts
On August 17 2012 07:13 superstartran wrote: Except SK/Soulkey was using the Sci Vessel in a completely separate building; the issue is that not only are Ravens really bad in general (slow, turn speed is bad, and they need to store up energy to use their mediocre at best abilities), they also tie up a building that produces the much needed Medivacs to combat Infestors. There's alot of key differences between the Ravens and Sci Vessel that will always make the Sci Vessel much more useful. One being that Sci Vessel has an all-purpose killing tool in Irradiate that has multiple uses (kills units, harass workers, can snipe Defilers with them, etc.) while the Raven has no multi-purpose spell. the point is that its like de ja vu | ||
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3D-Swifty
England69 Posts
Critics say that it shouldn't work and nestea should not have clumped. But Its always gonna happen, how often have we seen the full fungal growth radius been utilized vs a bio force, in pro matches. | ||
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nyaru267
United States117 Posts
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amazingoopah
United States1925 Posts
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GhostFiber
Australia88 Posts
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Rah
United States973 Posts
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