On August 05 2012 14:19 justinpal wrote: I don't think the author understands gaming culture very well.
The match didn't last long. After setting up a base in the northeast corner of the map, MarineKing sent foot soldiers to root out his opponent's headquarters -- a glowing blue pyramid spitting out blue termites -- and blew the whole thing up before the 10-minute mark. His coach nodded approvingly and walked away. MarineKing paid no attention to the press photographers leaning over a rail to snap pictures.
He was busy surfing the Internet, looking at pictures of pigtail-wearing Korean pop stars. Then he quickly moved on to another round of "StarCraft" -- not because of the competition, really.
He just wanted -- or needed -- to keep playing.
Or he's just dumbing it down for his audience like any intelligent writer who knows what the hell they're doing would? Yeah, he sent marines with 1/1 upgrades for a timing attack and marine split his marines on creep sounds really good to an audience.
I was more referring to the article and the second part of the quote, I guess my comment wasn't clear. But, the part where they obsess over the fact that he types go or 1a2a3a4a as an indication of his addiction. I'm pretty certain there are a large number of players that do just that.
most definetly its like boxing stuff randomly when on the net i know heaps of sc:bw/sc2 players who do this i found that this writer didnt really seem to understand certain things and then made superficial conclusions instead of just asking proper questions such as why are you doing that etc.
btw there is no such thing as adiction more correctly it is dependance as the individual depends on (X) to replace something that is missing in their life
On August 05 2012 14:19 justinpal wrote: I don't think the author understands gaming culture very well.
The match didn't last long. After setting up a base in the northeast corner of the map, MarineKing sent foot soldiers to root out his opponent's headquarters -- a glowing blue pyramid spitting out blue termites -- and blew the whole thing up before the 10-minute mark. His coach nodded approvingly and walked away. MarineKing paid no attention to the press photographers leaning over a rail to snap pictures.
He was busy surfing the Internet, looking at pictures of pigtail-wearing Korean pop stars. Then he quickly moved on to another round of "StarCraft" -- not because of the competition, really.
He just wanted -- or needed -- to keep playing.
Or he's just dumbing it down for his audience like any intelligent writer who knows what the hell they're doing would? Yeah, he sent marines with 1/1 upgrades for a timing attack and marine split his marines on creep sounds really good to an audience.
I was more referring to the article and the second part of the quote, I guess my comment wasn't clear. But, the part where they obsess over the fact that he types go or 1a2a3a4a as an indication of his addiction. I'm pretty certain there are a large number of players that do just that.
No, that's clearly not what the writer meant at all. "much like a pianist would when warming up." is the phrase they used. If anything they're highlighting MKP's career and achievements as something good and productive.
Ah, I cbf to read the entire thing. I read it as he was so addicted that he needed his fix and was anxious to get started. I see that part you mentioned, and I disagree that they were highlighting anything. Rather the author acknowledges this is an anxious warm-up. The way it's written is meant for you to think: "Wow, he really wants to play." He stated the number of times he typed go.
I know nothing about MKP and his family so it can all be true. But, I have my doubts.
ya spamming gogo and such is pretty standard for koreans (see in bw all the time) i would say mainly as they want to start rather than sitting in a booth twidling thier thumbs
Fucking ridiculous. If you're going to write an article about something for CNN, get a clue and don't demonize the subject you're talking about. But I guess this is to be expected from a major news outlet. Honestly, though, comparing professional Starcraft to an addict getting "One more fix" only serves one purpose, and I don't think it's accidental.
The match didn't last long. After setting up a base in the northeast corner of the map, MarineKing sent foot soldiers to root out his opponent's headquarters -- a glowing blue pyramid spitting out blue termites -- and blew the whole thing up before the 10-minute mark. His coach nodded approvingly and walked away. MarineKing paid no attention to the press photographers leaning over a rail to snap pictures.
He was busy surfing the Internet, looking at pictures of pigtail-wearing Korean pop stars. Then he quickly moved on to another round of "StarCraft" -- not because of the competition, really.
He just wanted -- or needed -- to keep playing.
This is one of the most patronizing things I have ever read. How often do professional athletes give the press attention as they're relaxing after a high profile match? If a football player sits on a bench and drinks some Gatorade, and doesn't pay attention to the photographers around him, does that make him addicted to football? From the sound of things MarineKing was busy playing in the middle of a fucking tournament. Of course he started another game....
The way the game is described lends absolutely no credence to the fact that it is a strategy game. He managed to "blow the whole thing up before the 10-minute mark"? Seriously? A game of Starcraft is a little more fucking complicated than blowing the whole thing up as fast as you can. CNN should be ashamed of itself and this "journalist" deserves to lose their job.
The match didn't last long. After setting up a base in the northeast corner of the map, MarineKing sent foot soldiers to root out his opponent's headquarters -- a glowing blue pyramid spitting out blue termites -- and blew the whole thing up before the 10-minute mark. His coach nodded approvingly and walked away. MarineKing paid no attention to the press photographers leaning over a rail to snap pictures.
He was busy surfing the Internet, looking at pictures of pigtail-wearing Korean pop stars. Then he quickly moved on to another round of "StarCraft" -- not because of the competition, really.
He just wanted -- or needed -- to keep playing.
This is one of the most patronizing things I have ever read. How often do professional athletes give the press attention as they're relaxing after a high profile match? If a football player sits on a bench and drinks some Gatorade, and doesn't pay attention to the photographers around him, does that make him addicted to football? From the sound of things MarineKing was busy playing in the middle of a fucking tournament. Of course he started another game....
The way the game is described lends absolutely no credence to the fact that it is a strategy game. He managed to "blow the whole thing up before the 10-minute mark"? Seriously? A game of Starcraft is a little more fucking complicated than blowing the whole thing up as fast as you can. CNN should be ashamed of itself and this "journalist" deserves to lose their job.
That last line boggles the mind. Yeah, he NEEDED to keep playing. Because he was doing his fucking job in a competition. For fucks sake, you might as well get upset that Roger Federer goes right back out on the court after the first set in Wimbledon. This article is a fucking disgrace.
The match didn't last long. After setting up a base in the northeast corner of the map, MarineKing sent foot soldiers to root out his opponent's headquarters -- a glowing blue pyramid spitting out blue termites -- and blew the whole thing up before the 10-minute mark. His coach nodded approvingly and walked away. MarineKing paid no attention to the press photographers leaning over a rail to snap pictures.
He was busy surfing the Internet, looking at pictures of pigtail-wearing Korean pop stars. Then he quickly moved on to another round of "StarCraft" -- not because of the competition, really.
He just wanted -- or needed -- to keep playing.
This is one of the most patronizing things I have ever read. How often do professional athletes give the press attention as they're relaxing after a high profile match? If a football player sits on a bench and drinks some Gatorade, and doesn't pay attention to the photographers around him, does that make him addicted to football? From the sound of things MarineKing was busy playing in the middle of a fucking tournament. Of course he started another game....
The way the game is described lends absolutely no credence to the fact that it is a strategy game. He managed to "blow the whole thing up before the 10-minute mark"? Seriously? A game of Starcraft is a little more fucking complicated than blowing the whole thing up as fast as you can. CNN should be ashamed of itself and this "journalist" deserves to lose their job.
I was gonna say your being an idiot. then i realized that the author implies over and over that our community, specifically, is comprised of addicts. dosent even bother to expand upon it or provide any sort of evidence just tells a story and adds in "or like a junkie looking for a fix." fucking bullshit. MKP is an awesome player and an inspiration to a lot of people. comparing him to a junkie simply to get more attention is absolute garbage.
On August 05 2012 23:09 cristo1122 wrote: btw there is no such thing as adiction more correctly it is dependance as the individual depends on (X) to replace something that is missing in their life
On August 05 2012 14:19 justinpal wrote: I don't think the author understands gaming culture very well.
The match didn't last long. After setting up a base in the northeast corner of the map, MarineKing sent foot soldiers to root out his opponent's headquarters -- a glowing blue pyramid spitting out blue termites -- and blew the whole thing up before the 10-minute mark. His coach nodded approvingly and walked away. MarineKing paid no attention to the press photographers leaning over a rail to snap pictures.
He was busy surfing the Internet, looking at pictures of pigtail-wearing Korean pop stars. Then he quickly moved on to another round of "StarCraft" -- not because of the competition, really.
He just wanted -- or needed -- to keep playing.
Or he's just dumbing it down for his audience like any intelligent writer who knows what the hell they're doing would? Yeah, he sent marines with 1/1 upgrades for a timing attack and marine split his marines on creep sounds really good to an audience.
I was more referring to the article and the second part of the quote, I guess my comment wasn't clear. But, the part where they obsess over the fact that he types go or 1a2a3a4a as an indication of his addiction. I'm pretty certain there are a large number of players that do just that.
No, that's clearly not what the writer meant at all. "much like a pianist would when warming up." is the phrase they used. If anything they're highlighting MKP's career and achievements as something good and productive.
Ah, I cbf to read the entire thing. I read it as he was so addicted that he needed his fix and was anxious to get started. I see that part you mentioned, and I disagree that they were highlighting anything. Rather the author acknowledges this is an anxious warm-up. The way it's written is meant for you to think: "Wow, he really wants to play." He stated the number of times he typed go.
I know nothing about MKP and his family so it can all be true. But, I have my doubts.
ya spamming gogo and such is pretty standard for koreans (see in bw all the time) i would say mainly as they want to start rather than sitting in a booth twidling thier thumbs
Kind of seems like you just said there's no such thing as addiction and then went on to define addiction.
MarineKing's competitor was DarKFoRce, from Germany, whose oily hair and sleep-deprived face made him look like the American stereotype of an obsessed video game player.
This gave me a good laugh.
Other than that: Standard tabloid journalism. I'm surprised this offends so many of you. I think I've read like 10 articles similar to this.
That quote is the most retarded shit ever. I don´t see how it´s relevant at all.
In the game, he belonged. He was a conqueror -- a general who controlled sci-fi armies and determined the fate of civilization. He drifted further into the game and, as his parents came to see it, out of the physical world. It was all fiction, of course, but it seemed real to him. And soon MarineKing started to like this fantasy world better than the real one.
The documentary is done okay and it's good that they try to show the difference between esports and gaming addiction. I don't understand why it gets so much hate, i think this kind of documentary shows esports in a good light compared to what we have been used to.
The biggest problem with the article is that it says that MKP isn't an addict (by interviewing the psychiatrist) but heavily implies it for the rest of the entire article.
Why bother implying he's an addict if you're going to just say at the end 'but actually he's really not?' Answer should be pretty obvious. They want to say he was an addict who stopped being one by virtue of becoming good, which is ridiculous.
Where are the articles about American Football addiction and how 4 players die each year from football on average, never mind the thousands of concussions that can lead to permanent brain damage?
This article has been really painfull to read entirely. All the analogies, vocabulary and images are pure sensationalism. Moreover there is absolutely no searching work, the author doesn't understand anything of what he is describing. And that last page where he tries to balance his talk, after caricaturing negatively every thing for 8 pages just looks dishonest.
And that part on darkforce shocked me, this is pretty insulting. But on the other side, there are so much priceless quotes from this article, that it becomes kinda funny.
"In the game, he belonged. He was a conqueror -- a general who controlled sci-fi armies and determined the fate of civilization. He drifted further into the game and, as his parents came to see it, out of the physical world. It was all fiction, of course, but it seemed real to him. And soon MarineKing started to like this fantasy world better than the real one." => Man, I didn't know about MKP's psychological troubles :-/
Just before the 19-minute mark, Kas ambushed MarineKing on his side of the city. A flurry of insect-like alien creatures swarmed his human base and started pecking away at it.
did Kas off-race for WCG?
I thought the article was pretty balanced. It addresses the issue of gaming addiction without outright accusing the pro-gamers of it.
That article depressed me. I just hope no non-gamer ever reads that piece of shit because they would make a totally wrong impression of competitive gaming. Man, these journalists.
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