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Duskbane
Profile Joined August 2010
United States178 Posts
August 27 2012 16:58 GMT
#421
I'm sure it's been brought up at some point throughout this thread, but I'd just like to point out for any other people like myself who don't believe in a such thing as "gaming addiction" or the like, that you should read the comment on this news story left by a Boudewijn Verleg, because that is one of the best explanations I have ever heard to discount the possibility of being "addicted" to a game.

He does reference the article, obviously, as it is a comment in response to the article, but I think the message can be clear without having read the article.
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
August 27 2012 17:02 GMT
#422
On August 07 2012 07:44 ridethecatbus wrote:


Poll: I believe I am addicted because:

It can take my mind off of the real world. (12)
 
67%

These games are just that good. (6)
 
33%

18 total votes

Your vote: I believe I am addicted because:

(Vote): These games are just that good.
(Vote): It can take my mind off of the real world.




That last poll really REALLY doesn't make sense. Escapism =/= to addiction. I mean, I read books pretty often to escape from the world. I'm not addicted to reading though, and I might be addicted to SC2.
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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 17:20:35
August 27 2012 17:12 GMT
#423
On August 28 2012 01:58 Duskbane wrote:
I'm sure it's been brought up at some point throughout this thread, but I'd just like to point out for any other people like myself who don't believe in a such thing as "gaming addiction" or the like, that you should read the comment on this news story left by a Boudewijn Verleg, because that is one of the best explanations I have ever heard to discount the possibility of being "addicted" to a game.

He does reference the article, obviously, as it is a comment in response to the article, but I think the message can be clear without having read the article.


His argument is absolutely NOT about discount the possibility of being "addicted" to a game. I think gaming addiction do exist, but it have little to do with progamers. Just like fitness addiction usually do not involve professional athletes. To be a progamer involve a level of drive and dedication that is impossible if you are "addicted" to it. Addiction suggest a lack of purpose or self-control, which is exact opposite of what a progamer is. CNN's fault is linking two completely unrelated issues (gaming addiction, and pro gaming) into one topic with some tangents that makes little sense, rather than suggesting that "gaming addiction" exists.

Some people say MKP is addicted to win, which I do not agree. A person CAN addict to win, and it is very dangerous and destructive. This often manifest as risky behavior in order to win, such as cheating or jeopardize long term well-being, and occasionally extreme aggression and personal assault.

edit: quote original post
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
August 27 2012 17:17 GMT
#424
By CNN standards, I am addicted to my job and university. Fucking addiction, they should help me out.
FoTG fighting!
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 27 2012 17:22 GMT
#425
On August 28 2012 02:17 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
By CNN standards, I am addicted to my job and university. Fucking addiction, they should help me out.


Believe or not, some people do addict to job / university. Ever heard about "career students" who stay in college in the 40s - 50s by taking different majors upon graduating?
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
August 27 2012 17:38 GMT
#426
On August 28 2012 02:22 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 02:17 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
By CNN standards, I am addicted to my job and university. Fucking addiction, they should help me out.


Believe or not, some people do addict to job / university. Ever heard about "career students" who stay in college in the 40s - 50s by taking different majors upon graduating?


lol, I spend hours at a time in school than multiple hours of the night studying just to get B- and then with my free time I work so I can pay off my debt. I plan on graduating when my program is over, but by the CNN standards because I am putting any time in, I am an addict.
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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 27 2012 19:42 GMT
#427
Yeah, their link is really weak. Doesn't mean gaming addition is not a problem for some problem, but their reasoning is bogus.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
August 27 2012 19:54 GMT
#428
It seems as if we're not going to ever hear the end of news outlets fear mongering with the ludicrous concept of "gaming addiction", as if being addicted to games is entirely separate from being addicted to anything else. Some part of me just boils whenever I see some white news reporter condescendingly talk over footage of GSL/OSL as if it were the most anomalous thing one could be engaging in.
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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 01:14:15
August 28 2012 01:10 GMT
#429
On August 28 2012 02:02 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 07:44 ridethecatbus wrote:


Poll: I believe I am addicted because:

It can take my mind off of the real world. (12)
 
67%

These games are just that good. (6)
 
33%

18 total votes

Your vote: I believe I am addicted because:

(Vote): These games are just that good.
(Vote): It can take my mind off of the real world.




That last poll really REALLY doesn't make sense. Escapism =/= to addiction. I mean, I read books pretty often to escape from the world. I'm not addicted to reading though, and I might be addicted to SC2.


I agree. Plus sometimes you need to relax or cope or take your mind off of the world from time to time, so you can continue functioning well in the world.

As of game addiction and whether it exists or not? Well I think it depends on what addiction means.

I think with any task, there is a possible of addiction to doing it (and doing it adversely).

When addiction is used to refer to something, it usually has a negative connotation, and it usually (when the word is used) implies if you play games that negativity affect your overall health (social not counting - TBH I don't think not being social or "going out" is a negative thing if you're doing well at work [for example]).

I mean, playing games 5 hours a day, every day is fine as long as you're doing okay at work or school or life in general (for example). As long as you don't get carpel tunnel or really hurt your wrists or something (take breaks often), then video games generally don't have any major negative health effects (AFAIK).

But if you play until you die (I remember two incidents which were related to playing Diablo games for too long >.>), then I can view that as sort of a gaming addiction.

tl;dr - I think addiction does exist (for everything really). When it's used though, it has a negative connocation. Time "alone" is irrelevant, what matters if the addiction interferes with or has a negative consequence to your life.
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