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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
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Peqqz
Germany201 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On July 21 2012 00:21 StatixEx wrote: I dont see this as a big deal, so you get levelled into a league higher than you actually are . .lets look at it like this 1. If YOU play this leveled char, more likely an easy win for you . . im not complaining but generally you wont see them twice anyway. 2. bit of extra income for the risky person who has decided he wants to play games for a living, not a bad thing, i wish i had the time to commit to being a pro gamer 3. Who exactly is this hurting? Not everyone is doing this, id say a handful of people are actually getting their accounts levelled 4. more money for the company we love. if people are buying new accounts to do this then its extra income so this great company that has graced us with this game will continue to make profits on what has now had its shelf life value. (i bought accounts in different regions to play with friends who moved abroad) 5. LIFE BALANCE. I would say this may be HELPING people, look at me for example, family man, i cant play enogh games a day to get out of silver but been matched with platinums and beat them with ease, and nearly beat all the golds . . Why am i not in gold at least? I would have to grind out (and win)many games, my family disapprove of SC2 as it is! we saw a few pros do a bronze playthrough, they played near 30 games before they started getting matched with golds (they advantage being they won every single one) some games ill forget to do stuff and auto lose, not cool. this point could probably stop a few divorces! 6. Its fun to show off to your one friend you are a GM player and then have to think of a million and one excuses not to play your silver league buddy. I don't think we should assume only a "handful" of accounts are being leveled, considering the quotes from ads I put in the OP. I think there's potential for a significant number of GM accounts on EU and NA to be leveled noobs. And I don't think it's valid to call the leveled accounts indistinguishable from pros' smurf accounts. For one, the leveled accounts aren't active. The pro only needs to play some "maintaining" games every now and then to keep the accounts in GM. These accounts are just wasted GM slots. Also, even though it's not ideal to have a bunch of pro smurf accounts in GM (that is, the accounts they actually own), that doesn't make it excusable to add a bunch of leveled accounts on top of that. It's just making a problem worse. To me, this issue of leveled accounts in GM is the biggest problem here. GM does have meaning. To accept money to get people into GM is robbing a lot of people of an achievement to validate the hard work they put into SC2. It's a selfish thing to do. | ||
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DougJDempsey
747 Posts
On July 21 2012 00:42 StatixEx wrote: yes, this is a bigger problem. i cant get into GM cos naniwa and his RO32 mates have 12 accounts in there! (just using him as example . . chill ur beans people) So... You are using this as a excuse for your inability to get into GM? If you are good enough it'll happen. IF. So if you arent dont delude yourself. | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On July 21 2012 01:26 Doodsmack wrote: I don't think we should assume only a "handful" of accounts are being leveled, considering the quotes from ads I put in the OP. I think there's potential for a significant number of GM accounts on EU and NA to be leveled noobs. And I don't think it's valid to call the leveled accounts indistinguishable from pros' smurf accounts. For one, the leveled accounts aren't active. The pro only needs to play some "maintaining" games every now and then to keep the accounts in GM. These accounts are just wasted GM slots. Also, even though it's not ideal to have a bunch of pro smurf accounts in GM (that is, the accounts they actually own), that doesn't make it excusable to add a bunch of leveled accounts on top of that. It's just making a problem worse. To me, this issue of leveled accounts in GM is the biggest problem here. GM does have meaning. To accept money to get people into GM is robbing a lot of people of an achievement to validate the hard work they put into SC2. It's a selfish thing to do. The thing is nobody really treats GM like it has any meaning because of the semi stoic nature of GM(how hard it is to get kicked out) and how it doesnt update for the top200 throughout the season. | ||
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On July 21 2012 00:45 ContactKilla wrote: People use this service, get on the forums and say "Coming from a Masters..." Lol And then no one takes them seriously cause no one cares about masters. You don't have to take someone's league for granted. If the information they post is incorrect, no league in the world will make them right. Either way, you can just as easily 6 pool to masters (or GM) and be just as clueless. | ||
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Everuler
Singapore26 Posts
Is it frustrating and hurting? Yes, but it definitely doesn't cause harm to anyone in the process. And by you mentioning about power leveling service, you too has just contributed to their service, as I'm sure it's more of a demand problem than the pro-gamers problem. This is not like drugs, where it's illegal and do harm people. | ||
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Monochromatic
United States998 Posts
Doesn't really matter, enjoy your free win. | ||
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Soma Cruz
United States209 Posts
Not even /r/starcraft is witch hunting about something this meanginless, and it's trying to start here. Oh no, stupid people are paying for a leveling service like they do in every other game ever. | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
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Archen
United States79 Posts
On July 21 2012 02:17 Soma Cruz wrote: I can't believe people care this much... Not even /r/starcraft is witch hunting about something this meanginless, and it's trying to start here. Oh no, stupid people are paying for a leveling service like they do in every other game ever. Wondering the same thing... how has this stupid thread gotten so far? Power leveling hurts no one. There may be some useless accounts in GM but how does that affect anyone? A team won't kick someone off because they are only rank 1 Masters and not GM. | ||
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lubu42
United States314 Posts
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
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Kilby
Finland1069 Posts
I personally would not pay for this kind of service even if I would be leveled to GM and would then be given the chance to lose to Stephano in person. | ||
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
On July 16 2012 16:55 raser wrote: just so you know, trading and selling accounts/games is legal in europe, no mather what blizzard put in their EULA Trading and selling accounts is not legal in Europe. Trading and selling licenses is legal in Europe. A progamer can sell his SC2 license, but legally he is not allowed to play on it anymore, and Blizzard is perfectly within their rights to tie ladder rank and achievements to the Bnet account instead of the license. | ||
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McDrizzle
United States131 Posts
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Kilby
Finland1069 Posts
On July 21 2012 02:44 yeint wrote: Trading and selling accounts is not legal in Europe. Trading and selling licenses is legal in Europe. A progamer can sell his SC2 license, but legally he is not allowed to play on it anymore, and Blizzard is perfectly within their rights to tie ladder rank and achievements to the Bnet account instead of the license. Are you sure selling licenses is legal? I mean, I think the original EULA already says the SC2 license is non-transferable and non-resellable, isn't that right? | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
If you want stop account sharing / power level? It's actually REALLY simple: 1: mandatory authenticators 2: requirement a government ID to register your battle.net account There, problem solved. I don't think that's a trade-offs people are willing to accept for this relatively minor issue though. | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On July 21 2012 02:53 Kilby wrote: Are you sure selling licenses is legal? I mean, I think the original EULA already says the SC2 license is non-transferable and non-resellable, isn't that right? It's against EULA, but EULA cannot violate EU law, which mandates that all digital sells must be resellable. | ||
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schimmetje
Netherlands1104 Posts
On July 21 2012 02:53 Kilby wrote: Are you sure selling licenses is legal? I mean, I think the original EULA already says the SC2 license is non-transferable and non-resellable, isn't that right? Yeah, the European courts recently decided you can resell them. As an aside, wish TL'd close threads that just go round and round. Or disclose the numbers that caused this to be reopened (only seen 2 instances thrown up so far). | ||
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