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intense555
United States474 Posts
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29 fps
United States5725 Posts
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Specialist
United States803 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On July 20 2012 12:29 SpecialistSc wrote: this should not be a big deal at all because nobody takes ladder seriously anyways ^^ why bother posting this stupid stuff. From the amount of ragers I see on ladder, it appears almost everybody takes it VERY seriously. | ||
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Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
On July 20 2012 12:05 TRaFFiC wrote: Whatever it takes. IP can be used to link accounts. I used to play other games where they banned people from IP consistently. I'm not so in the know, but I know they're ways. "Account sharing (which boosting is a form of) does not make the ladder less competitive" Of course it does since I bet my bottom dollar these people let these accounts sit inactive. Having inactive accounts in the highest ranks of the world is horrible. Wake up and smell the coffee, yo. It does not make the ladder any less competitive. It just makes ranks and points less meaningful when determining skill. Which Blizzard's system has a lot more to do with than a bunch of boosted accounts, but I guess complaining about that went out of fashion. Why don't you make a post on the battle.net forums, asking for public MMR and the removal of leagues altogether? Would make a huge difference, as opposed to posting about this irrelevant crap. It's just really weird to me, the system is intentionally designed to obfuscate a player's true rank, and yet some of you are up in arms about its "competitive integrity". If Blizzard cared about that, the ladder would be identical to the WC3 ladder. It's kind of funny actually, because they put this in place to make casuals less butthurt about their rank - however, LoL has explicit ELO for everyone to see, and a much larger casual playerbase compared to SC2. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On July 20 2012 15:38 Toadvine wrote: It does not make the ladder any less competitive. It just makes ranks and points less meaningful when determining skill. But major tournaments use ladder ranks as a way of determining open / offline qualifiers.....So it's even worse than just devaluing the competition. | ||
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gorbonic
United States73 Posts
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ritzia1
Canada95 Posts
On July 20 2012 15:56 gorbonic wrote: If this is bad, then it's bad the same way ghostwriting is bad (i.e., distasteful), which is not only a legal practice, but a common one. Overall, I don't see what's wrong with great players being payed to smurf -- all the better if it's streamed so then it's a transparent process with a receipt. It is much more different than being paid to smurf. People are are paying pro players to grind out wins for their account where as smurfing is just for self use. There are a lot of players trying to either attempt to get better or trying to break into the pro scene and account leveling is essentially ruining the integrity of the ladder. To those saying that ladder doesn't mean anything, some of the greatest players have come from the ladder. Account leveling should be treated the same way as hacking they both try to gain unfair advantages in someway albeit in different methods it does share similarities. | ||
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Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
On July 20 2012 15:46 Caihead wrote: But major tournaments use ladder ranks as a way of determining open / offline qualifiers.....So it's even worse than just devaluing the competition. Which tournaments do that, aside from those directly ran by Blizzard? Honestly, hacking is a much bigger problem, because you can actually be successful in online tournaments with it, as illustrated by the famous Spades vs LucifroN showmatch. Boosting people in tournaments is absolutely pointless, and also very easy to detect. | ||
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Khainer
Netherlands54 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On July 20 2012 12:33 TRaFFiC wrote: why bother posting this stupid stuff. From the amount of ragers I see on ladder, it appears almost everybody takes it VERY seriously. Question: are they taking the ladder serious, are they taking the game serious, or are they just sore losers? edit: On July 20 2012 16:14 Toadvine wrote: Which tournaments do that, aside from those directly ran by Blizzard? Honestly, hacking is a much bigger problem, because you can actually be successful in online tournaments with it, as illustrated by the famous Spades vs LucifroN showmatch. Boosting people in tournaments is absolutely pointless, and also very easy to detect. I think the GSL did that back in the days. At least for Korean participants. | ||
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gorbonic
United States73 Posts
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Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
On July 20 2012 16:24 JustPassingBy wrote: I think the GSL did that back in the days. At least for Korean participants. Yeah, but that was before Master league went online, and I guess they were afraid of thousands of people showing up for the qualifiers. Ever since GSL January 2011, I believe you just need to be in Masters in order to participate. On an unrelated note, I'd like someone to actually give an honest example of a player who gained recognition because they got into GM. And please, don't be disingenuous and bring up players who sat in Top10 for extended periods of time (like Bomber, DRG, Creator, PartinG, and so forth) before their tournament breakout. If a player is good enough to do that, no amount of smurfs will stop them. Similarly, bringing up HuK as an example is hilariously stupid. HuK had a lot of success in online tournaments in the early days of SC2, and proceeded to win the first big LAN (MLG Raleigh). There wasn't even any way to tell who was on top of the ladder back then anyway, since Blizzard hadn't started to publish their Top200 lists yet. | ||
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iremnant3847
Taiwan269 Posts
I feel so bad that professional players have to resort to such services to get pocket money.....poor guys.  (pun seriously not intended) | ||
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Soundwave12
Belgium14 Posts
On the other hand people that have their accounts leveled basically cant play the game. Take for example a bronze/silver/gold/plat that got his account boosted to high masters. If the real player starts playing he'll get absolutely demolished game after game. So basically they are paying just for bragging rights, not beeing able to play anymore and pray no real high player challenge them... it is sad that it takes a spot from a player that DID deserve his place there and it's sad pro's have to resort to this to earn money. So yeah I think if caught it should be punished in the end | ||
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OneBaseKing
Afghanistan412 Posts
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PiGStarcraft
Australia1004 Posts
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HaXeR
Czech Republic189 Posts
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
On July 16 2012 16:53 iRon aka bananajuice wrote: when you dont play you will loose your spot due to the bonus pool and when you play you will loose the spot due to loosing all games, because you are not gm level. Good job on actually reading the OP! They just pay for GM and for the Pro to play a few games on the account per week to keep it in GM. The problem is not that idiots have high MMR, but that they're taking away limited GM spots from people who legitimately work at getting GM. | ||
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
Told by tl mods to stop? what do tl mods have to say about this, well i guess they could make them non featured. Annyway:This should be a case for blizzard mods as its cheating? Bit suprised this is happening in sc btw,it is well known in other games though (account levelling services by bots) Dont see the purpose for sc , you can get your account levelled to gm but then once you start playing on it with your diamond or lower level, you will be back down in diamond on no time. You only get to play a few games against gm,s (who will all see you are terrible and have a levelled account,so you wont get their respect and recognition either) and then you back in your own league. Suprised that people willing to pay for this, and even more suprised pro players are helping with this, though i dont think its a huge deal. Can somehow understand the pro players though dont agree with it off course they have to make a living somehow and not everyone wins big price monney consistantly. | ||
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