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XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
July 20 2012 11:50 GMT
#561
This is sad, but let's leave it at that and not make a problem out of it.
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Boraz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States361 Posts
July 20 2012 11:56 GMT
#562
Well done on a well written post. I wish more peoples posts were like yours.
But I have to disagree with the leveling. Some people cannot get out of silver because of cheese, etc. Or maybe they want to brag to their friends they're in GrandMasters. I don't see anything wrong with pro-gamers leveling accounts. This isn't World of Warcraft, or Guild Wars, or Diablo 3. Leveling the account will help nobody, and I don't believe it ruins the integrity of anything.

When I was playing SC2 more and got top masters...I actually offered a leveling service for $5 an hour. And had people pay me to level their account, multiple times. There is many pro-gamers, there is not a lot of money. So if people want to pay for their account to get leveled, so be it.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 20 2012 12:03 GMT
#563
On July 20 2012 12:05 TRaFFiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 04:58 ragz_gt wrote:
On July 20 2012 04:14 TRaFFiC wrote:
These people should all be banned and furthermore, there should only be 1 account allowed in GM per person. It's disrespectful to the high masters trying to squeeze in and bad for GROWTH of sc2 overall.


It's a good idea, how do you propose to do it? People have to send in their ID and submit a form to get in GM?


Whatever it takes. IP can be used to link accounts. I used to play other games where they banned people from IP consistently. I'm not so in the know, but I know they're ways.

"Account sharing (which boosting is a form of) does not make the ladder less competitive"

Of course it does since I bet my bottom dollar these people let these accounts sit inactive. Having inactive accounts in the highest ranks of the world is horrible. Wake up and smell the coffee, yo.


So.... how do you suppose Pro's play at events outside of Pro house, since they'd have different IP? Actually, how would Pro house even work since all comp would have same IP?
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Dr_Jones
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway252 Posts
July 20 2012 12:09 GMT
#564
I'm outraged that I'm not outraged at this very important issue...
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n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
July 20 2012 12:18 GMT
#565
On July 20 2012 21:03 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 12:05 TRaFFiC wrote:
On July 20 2012 04:58 ragz_gt wrote:
On July 20 2012 04:14 TRaFFiC wrote:
These people should all be banned and furthermore, there should only be 1 account allowed in GM per person. It's disrespectful to the high masters trying to squeeze in and bad for GROWTH of sc2 overall.


It's a good idea, how do you propose to do it? People have to send in their ID and submit a form to get in GM?


Whatever it takes. IP can be used to link accounts. I used to play other games where they banned people from IP consistently. I'm not so in the know, but I know they're ways.

"Account sharing (which boosting is a form of) does not make the ladder less competitive"

Of course it does since I bet my bottom dollar these people let these accounts sit inactive. Having inactive accounts in the highest ranks of the world is horrible. Wake up and smell the coffee, yo.


So.... how do you suppose Pro's play at events outside of Pro house, since they'd have different IP? Actually, how would Pro house even work since all comp would have same IP?


Dude, account A logs on at noon from northern europe, 30 minutes later same account logs with an IP from sunny california - doesn't take some massive detective work to check these things out.

Or were you just replying for the sake of replying.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 12:29:26
July 20 2012 12:25 GMT
#566
On July 20 2012 21:18 n0ise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 21:03 ragz_gt wrote:
On July 20 2012 12:05 TRaFFiC wrote:
On July 20 2012 04:58 ragz_gt wrote:
On July 20 2012 04:14 TRaFFiC wrote:
These people should all be banned and furthermore, there should only be 1 account allowed in GM per person. It's disrespectful to the high masters trying to squeeze in and bad for GROWTH of sc2 overall.


It's a good idea, how do you propose to do it? People have to send in their ID and submit a form to get in GM?


Whatever it takes. IP can be used to link accounts. I used to play other games where they banned people from IP consistently. I'm not so in the know, but I know they're ways.

"Account sharing (which boosting is a form of) does not make the ladder less competitive"

Of course it does since I bet my bottom dollar these people let these accounts sit inactive. Having inactive accounts in the highest ranks of the world is horrible. Wake up and smell the coffee, yo.


So.... how do you suppose Pro's play at events outside of Pro house, since they'd have different IP? Actually, how would Pro house even work since all comp would have same IP?


Dude, account A logs on at noon from northern europe, 30 minutes later same account logs with an IP from sunny california - doesn't take some massive detective work to check these things out.

Or were you just replying for the sake of replying.


How about Account A logs on at noon from northern Europoe, 24hr later same account log with an IP from sunny California, do you ban that one? What about Account B logs on at noon from northern Europe, 30 minutes later same account log with a different IP from northern Europe? What about Account C logs on at noon from northern Europe, 4hr later same account log with an IP from southern Europe?

Also, you ever heard of Proxy server?

And you didn't explain how Pro house can work when they all share same IP.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
July 20 2012 12:26 GMT
#567
On July 20 2012 21:18 n0ise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 21:03 ragz_gt wrote:
On July 20 2012 12:05 TRaFFiC wrote:
On July 20 2012 04:58 ragz_gt wrote:
On July 20 2012 04:14 TRaFFiC wrote:
These people should all be banned and furthermore, there should only be 1 account allowed in GM per person. It's disrespectful to the high masters trying to squeeze in and bad for GROWTH of sc2 overall.


It's a good idea, how do you propose to do it? People have to send in their ID and submit a form to get in GM?


Whatever it takes. IP can be used to link accounts. I used to play other games where they banned people from IP consistently. I'm not so in the know, but I know they're ways.

"Account sharing (which boosting is a form of) does not make the ladder less competitive"

Of course it does since I bet my bottom dollar these people let these accounts sit inactive. Having inactive accounts in the highest ranks of the world is horrible. Wake up and smell the coffee, yo.


So.... how do you suppose Pro's play at events outside of Pro house, since they'd have different IP? Actually, how would Pro house even work since all comp would have same IP?


Dude, account A logs on at noon from northern europe, 30 minutes later same account logs with an IP from sunny california - doesn't take some massive detective work to check these things out.

Or were you just replying for the sake of replying.


Could've just been proxying.
Kaiyotic
Profile Joined October 2011
United States90 Posts
July 20 2012 14:58 GMT
#568
Sorry, people play starcraft through proxies? What's the point>
Rain: Idra's face is scary
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 20 2012 15:02 GMT
#569
On July 20 2012 23:58 Kaiyotic wrote:
Sorry, people play starcraft through proxies? What's the point>

Doesn't really matter what the point is. IP tracking is unreliable & presumes things about people's lifestyles. It would be a breach of privacy to require people account for why they're accessing the game from a different country, and a massive waste of time when you consider that account leveling isn't even a problem to begin with.
Htw
Profile Joined September 2010
United States30 Posts
July 20 2012 15:13 GMT
#570
Can you blame the pros for trying to make a more comfortable living? The scene isn't overflowing with money. Up to Blizzard to find a way to stop it.
ABear
Profile Joined June 2006
United States161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 15:23:15
July 20 2012 15:19 GMT
#571
Wouldnt most proxies lag >_< Maybe a VPN though. I know some korean pros use American VPNs when they play on NA(which I'm not sure what the point is since I don't know that much about networking tt)

I dont think it matters though since if Blizzard is serious about this, they should have a system in place that flags accounts whose IPs drastically change within hours.
habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
July 20 2012 15:21 GMT
#572
On July 21 2012 00:13 Htw wrote:
Can you blame the pros for trying to make a more comfortable living? The scene isn't overflowing with money. Up to Blizzard to find a way to stop it.


Really dude? If some families are quite poor, let them steal and dont blame them, because they are trying to make a more confortable living.... Really stupid ideas in this thread...
StatixEx
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United Kingdom779 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 15:22:55
July 20 2012 15:21 GMT
#573
I dont see this as a big deal, so you get levelled into a league higher than you actually are . .lets look at it like this

1. If YOU play this leveled char, more likely an easy win for you . . im not complaining but generally you wont see them twice anyway.
2. bit of extra income for the risky person who has decided he wants to play games for a living, not a bad thing, i wish i had the time to commit to being a pro gamer
3. Who exactly is this hurting? Not everyone is doing this, id say a handful of people are actually getting their accounts levelled
4. more money for the company we love. if people are buying new accounts to do this then its extra income so this great company that has graced us with this game will continue to make profits on what has now had its shelf life value. (i bought accounts in different regions to play with friends who moved abroad)
5. LIFE BALANCE. I would say this may be HELPING people, look at me for example, family man, i cant play enogh games a day to get out of silver but been matched with platinums and beat them with ease, and nearly beat all the golds . . Why am i not in gold at least? I would have to grind out (and win)many games, my family disapprove of SC2 as it is! we saw a few pros do a bronze playthrough, they played near 30 games before they started getting matched with golds (they advantage being they won every single one) some games ill forget to do stuff and auto lose, not cool. this point could probably stop a few divorces!
6. Its fun to show off to your one friend you are a GM player and then have to think of a million and one excuses not to play your silver league buddy.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
July 20 2012 15:21 GMT
#574
On July 21 2012 00:13 Htw wrote:
Can you blame the pros for trying to make a more comfortable living? The scene isn't overflowing with money. Up to Blizzard to find a way to stop it.


can you blame robbers for trying to make a comfortable living, the streets arent overflowing with money.

if you cant make money playing starcraft, the solution is to do something else, not to fuck with other people on the ladder.
ABear
Profile Joined June 2006
United States161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 15:28:33
July 20 2012 15:25 GMT
#575
I'm not sure how people can support this. It isn't really an honest way to make money. If they need money, they should coach, sell replays(this might be against the TOS though so maybe not), enter more tournaments, stream more etc.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
July 20 2012 15:28 GMT
#576
I've been levelling TL and Reddit accounts.

Just sold a "quality poster" 4600 post TL account and a 4000/16000 link/comment karma reddit account.

PM me for details on how you can take your forum game to the next level.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 20 2012 15:30 GMT
#577
On July 21 2012 00:25 ABear wrote:
I'm not sure how people can support this. It isn't really an honest way to make money. If they need money, they should coach, sell replays(this might be against the TOS though so maybe not), enter more tournaments, stream more etc.

What's dishonest about it? This hurts actually no one. It's exactly the same as pros leveling up multiple accounts into GM.
StatixEx
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United Kingdom779 Posts
July 20 2012 15:42 GMT
#578
On July 21 2012 00:30 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 00:25 ABear wrote:
I'm not sure how people can support this. It isn't really an honest way to make money. If they need money, they should coach, sell replays(this might be against the TOS though so maybe not), enter more tournaments, stream more etc.

What's dishonest about it? This hurts actually no one. It's exactly the same as pros leveling up multiple accounts into GM.


yes, this is a bigger problem. i cant get into GM cos naniwa and his RO32 mates have 12 accounts in there! (just using him as example . . chill ur beans people)
ContactKilla
Profile Joined December 2010
United States194 Posts
July 20 2012 15:45 GMT
#579
People use this service, get on the forums and say "Coming from a Masters..."

Lol
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 20 2012 15:50 GMT
#580
On July 21 2012 00:42 StatixEx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 00:30 Shiori wrote:
On July 21 2012 00:25 ABear wrote:
I'm not sure how people can support this. It isn't really an honest way to make money. If they need money, they should coach, sell replays(this might be against the TOS though so maybe not), enter more tournaments, stream more etc.

What's dishonest about it? This hurts actually no one. It's exactly the same as pros leveling up multiple accounts into GM.


yes, this is a bigger problem. i cant get into GM cos naniwa and his RO32 mates have 12 accounts in there! (just using him as example . . chill ur beans people)

So what? All of those accounts were purchased.
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