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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
. Should we put on tinfoil hats and try to explain it? Will be so strange without The Casting Archon. | ||
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Coolness53
United States668 Posts
On July 11 2012 05:33 jobber123rd wrote: GSTL semifinals -- part of his "once in a career" chance to go to the individual and team league finals on consecutive days in his hometown. I think that's more important to him. Plus DRG has OSL also on top of everything else. With GSTL, GSL, and OSL..He got a full plate. | ||
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SolarJto
United States260 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
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WallieP
Netherlands425 Posts
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NanowaX
Germany190 Posts
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GuitarBizarre
United Kingdom332 Posts
On July 11 2012 02:46 Xacez wrote: For some reason I would expect an American tournament to focus on players from America, but as it turns out I would be wrong. For some reason, I expected a business to focus on players people actually care about, and not give undue exposure or preference to players from certain demographics or geographical locations. I mean, Illusion, IdrA, Incontrol, Huk if you're being charitable, who else really is there from america who really pulls crowds? | ||
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GuitarBizarre
United Kingdom332 Posts
On July 11 2012 02:54 DarkLordOlli wrote: THANK YOU for making it free. Believe me, I would buy a pass if I could but that's pretty hard living outside of the US without a credit card. Really? I've used paypal from my bank account just fine for every previous event. | ||
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Xx26Vanek26xX
United States185 Posts
On July 11 2012 06:55 GuitarBizarre wrote: isnt that exactly what dream hack does. don't really see why MLG can't so it For some reason, I expected a business to focus on players people actually care about, and not give undue exposure or preference to players from certain demographics or geographical locations. I mean, Illusion, IdrA, Incontrol, Huk if you're being charitable, who else really is there from america who really pulls crowds? | ||
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Wroshe
Netherlands1051 Posts
On July 11 2012 06:55 GuitarBizarre wrote: For some reason, I expected a business to focus on players people actually care about, and not give undue exposure or preference to players from certain demographics or geographical locations. I mean, Illusion, IdrA, Incontrol, Huk if you're being charitable, who else really is there from america who really pulls crowds? Destiny also pulls crowds, however he also pulls in a lot of people that don't understand the words 18+ private explicit stream and therefore hate him. | ||
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GuitarBizarre
United Kingdom332 Posts
On July 11 2012 07:02 Wroshe wrote: Destiny also pulls crowds, however he also pulls in a lot of people that don't understand the words 18+ private explicit stream and therefore hate him. I'm not sure destiny brings a tournament crowd as much as he has a large personal fanbase. Don't get me wrong, while I don't know much about Destiny, the interviews I've seen and posts I've read have shown him to be very astute, if a little cynical, and I like that, but I think he'd be the first to admit that tournament wise, nobody, not even him, expects him to go in and win outright, and While thats ok for homestory, it doesn't cut the mustard for an event like MLG which lives and dies on having the best players in the world as their main draw. On July 11 2012 07:02 Xx26Vanek26xX wrote: isnt that exactly what dream hack does. don't really see why MLG can't so it Mainly, I wouldn't expect MLG to do it because unlike Dreamhack, who have a broad business model, and can afford to support up and comers because thats what people expect out of them, MLG, as discussion in this thread shows, engender a feeling of absolute superiority. They are, arguably, the most prestigious tournament outside of the GSL, in terms of how seriously people take the skills of people who do well or win. On the other hand, there are many more question marks over how good a dreamhack winner really is compared to top-level GSL pros, precisely because of the extra chances afforded to up and comers, in the public eye, seeming to "dilute" the tournament. | ||
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
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CptRusty
Denmark4 Posts
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On July 11 2012 07:09 CptRusty wrote: SaSe?? Naniwa?? Sase is there. Naniwa chose not to play the qualifiers therefore he doesn't deserve a spot. | ||
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GuitarBizarre
United Kingdom332 Posts
On July 11 2012 07:09 CptRusty wrote: SaSe?? Naniwa?? Naniwa said on these very forums, that he knows he's an underdog vs DRG in his next round of the GSL. I don't imagine he'll be looking to do anything but prepare for that match, until it happens. Naniwa is VERY driven to do well in the GSL, and all the more power to him, if it means foreigners are competing on the biggest Korean stages and holding their own. | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
If top players decide not to go...your tournament immediately loses value. | ||
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JazzJackrabbit
Canada1272 Posts
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dde
Canada796 Posts
On July 11 2012 04:09 Wroshe wrote: Highly disagree with you on NA needing more spots. The only NA player who has performed good in MLG the last few seasons is Violet, and as HotBid said you can really argue whether you should count him as indicative of the NA Scene. If you for example look at the Spring Arena 2 you had 8 people qualify through the NA Qualifiers: IdrA, Sleep, Mook, SeleCT, HuK, Rain, Killer and Violet. With the exception of Violet all of them placed in the bottom 16. Take a look at the Winter Arena: NA had Ddoro, SaSe, Axslav, Minigun, Drewbie, DeMuslim, DDe and Sheth qualify. With the exception of DeMuslim every single one of those placed in the bottom 16. Another example: TSL4 Qualifiers. In the first eight qualifiers you had one win from a North American: Beastyqt. He however falls under the exact same category as Violet; in fact I feel you shouldn't count him as a North American even more then Violet. On points you get another two players (SeleCT and Sheth) but that only gives you 3 out of 16 spots to be divided between Europe and North America. The big reason that there are so many people vying for NA spots in the invite only qualifier against compared to EU is that a lot more NA people qualify for those due to finishing top 80 in a championship event. Those events are a lot easier for NA players to attend and when they perform decently they get an invite to the arena qualifiers. EU players that don't have the ability to get sent to a MLG Championship event have to fight it out in the brutal open qualifier to hope to earn one of the 8 spots to qualify for the next set of qualifiers. Just to recap. Winter Arena: 8 qualifiers from NA, 7 in the bottom 16. Spring Arena 2: 8 qualifiers from NA, 7 in the bottom 16; only exception is doubtfully a real NA player. TSL4 Qualifers (as of Qualifier 8): 3 out of 16 spots; all others go to Europe. there were many forfeits gotta keep that in consideration. I was one of them too. | ||
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Sryinex
United States40 Posts
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GuitarBizarre
United Kingdom332 Posts
On July 11 2012 07:17 Sryinex wrote: I sincerely hope the summer championship will have the big names that this arena doesn't. Alicia, SaSe, Stephano, Leenock, Oz, Alive, Ganzi, Golden, Violet, Sheth, Illusion, qxc, Nerchio (Just won Homestory Cup), Grubby, HerO, Taeja, Ryung, Losira, Top, Rain, and Dream aren't enough big names for you? Thats a stacked as hell field right there. And honestly, while I'm not familiar with most of the other names, they beat respectable competition to get here, so show them some respect. | ||
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