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GuitarBizarre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom332 Posts
July 10 2012 22:22 GMT
#141
On July 11 2012 07:17 dde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 04:09 Wroshe wrote:
On July 11 2012 03:32 Xeris wrote:
I think it sucks that NA has the highest number of participants but received the fewest number of spots. There were about 55 people vying for just 6 spots , while EU had 17 people playing for 9. I think theres something inherrently wrong with that.

MLGs reason is that NA players perform worse, but Violet won last Arena and he came from NA. I think it sucks for NA players who did well and cant get a chance to play here.

blehhh!

Highly disagree with you on NA needing more spots. The only NA player who has performed good in MLG the last few seasons is Violet, and as HotBid said you can really argue whether you should count him as indicative of the NA Scene.

If you for example look at the Spring Arena 2 you had 8 people qualify through the NA Qualifiers: IdrA, Sleep, Mook, SeleCT, HuK, Rain, Killer and Violet. With the exception of Violet all of them placed in the bottom 16.

Take a look at the Winter Arena: NA had Ddoro, SaSe, Axslav, Minigun, Drewbie, DeMuslim, DDe and Sheth qualify. With the exception of DeMuslim every single one of those placed in the bottom 16.

Another example: TSL4 Qualifiers. In the first eight qualifiers you had one win from a North American: Beastyqt. He however falls under the exact same category as Violet; in fact I feel you shouldn't count him as a North American even more then Violet. On points you get another two players (SeleCT and Sheth) but that only gives you 3 out of 16 spots to be divided between Europe and North America.

The big reason that there are so many people vying for NA spots in the invite only qualifier against compared to EU is that a lot more NA people qualify for those due to finishing top 80 in a championship event. Those events are a lot easier for NA players to attend and when they perform decently they get an invite to the arena qualifiers. EU players that don't have the ability to get sent to a MLG Championship event have to fight it out in the brutal open qualifier to hope to earn one of the 8 spots to qualify for the next set of qualifiers.

Just to recap.
Winter Arena: 8 qualifiers from NA, 7 in the bottom 16.
Spring Arena 2: 8 qualifiers from NA, 7 in the bottom 16; only exception is doubtfully a real NA player.
TSL4 Qualifers (as of Qualifier 8): 3 out of 16 spots; all others go to Europe.



there were many forfeits gotta keep that in consideration. I was one of them too.


Be that as may, It can't be missed that most of the players mentioned in that post aren't even american.
In retrospect, I don't know how you can play StarCraft without swearing. - Eifer
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
July 10 2012 22:28 GMT
#142
No TotalBiscuit?

What is he doing then?
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
July 10 2012 22:42 GMT
#143
On July 11 2012 02:46 Xacez wrote:
For some reason I would expect an American tournament to focus on players from America, but as it turns out I would be wrong.


An all protoss vs zerg tournament? Would be pretty interesting!
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
July 10 2012 22:56 GMT
#144
So good to see the Liquid tag team listed there. Go go guys, make a splash!
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
July 10 2012 22:57 GMT
#145
I think LosirA's going to kick some ass, personally. Certainly hoping so at least. And Sheth's going to go far as well, of that I'm confident. Seems like a decent group of players, going to be fun.
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
July 10 2012 23:31 GMT
#146
On July 11 2012 07:17 dde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 04:09 Wroshe wrote:
On July 11 2012 03:32 Xeris wrote:
I think it sucks that NA has the highest number of participants but received the fewest number of spots. There were about 55 people vying for just 6 spots , while EU had 17 people playing for 9. I think theres something inherrently wrong with that.

MLGs reason is that NA players perform worse, but Violet won last Arena and he came from NA. I think it sucks for NA players who did well and cant get a chance to play here.

blehhh!

Highly disagree with you on NA needing more spots. The only NA player who has performed good in MLG the last few seasons is Violet, and as HotBid said you can really argue whether you should count him as indicative of the NA Scene.

If you for example look at the Spring Arena 2 you had 8 people qualify through the NA Qualifiers: IdrA, Sleep, Mook, SeleCT, HuK, Rain, Killer and Violet. With the exception of Violet all of them placed in the bottom 16.

Take a look at the Winter Arena: NA had Ddoro, SaSe, Axslav, Minigun, Drewbie, DeMuslim, DDe and Sheth qualify. With the exception of DeMuslim every single one of those placed in the bottom 16.

Another example: TSL4 Qualifiers. In the first eight qualifiers you had one win from a North American: Beastyqt. He however falls under the exact same category as Violet; in fact I feel you shouldn't count him as a North American even more then Violet. On points you get another two players (SeleCT and Sheth) but that only gives you 3 out of 16 spots to be divided between Europe and North America.

The big reason that there are so many people vying for NA spots in the invite only qualifier against compared to EU is that a lot more NA people qualify for those due to finishing top 80 in a championship event. Those events are a lot easier for NA players to attend and when they perform decently they get an invite to the arena qualifiers. EU players that don't have the ability to get sent to a MLG Championship event have to fight it out in the brutal open qualifier to hope to earn one of the 8 spots to qualify for the next set of qualifiers.

Just to recap.
Winter Arena: 8 qualifiers from NA, 7 in the bottom 16.
Spring Arena 2: 8 qualifiers from NA, 7 in the bottom 16; only exception is doubtfully a real NA player.
TSL4 Qualifers (as of Qualifier 8): 3 out of 16 spots; all others go to Europe.



there were many forfeits gotta keep that in consideration. I was one of them too.

According to Liquipedia you lost that series in the lower bracket 1-2 to Sheth. Is that incorrect?
Aber
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden332 Posts
July 10 2012 23:31 GMT
#147
Thanks for the free stream guys, im on holiday at this time so i actually got time to watch the whole shebang :D

gonna be a blast with those players, woop

Liquid Fighting!!!
Trying is the first step towards failure
Pimpmuckl
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany528 Posts
July 10 2012 23:59 GMT
#148
Hmm, would have love to seen a little bit less charged for Gold Members but the whole Gold Membership Deal rocks so it's alright, too bad i have exams and won't be able to view as much as i want
twitter.com/pimpmuckl
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 00:19:04
July 11 2012 00:18 GMT
#149
haha.. sounds awesome.. shame about drg and mkp.. and tasteless.. nooo..

rooting for grubby and hero.. gogogo.

/e also interested in seeing how well nerchio does.

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
July 11 2012 00:46 GMT
#150
On July 11 2012 07:18 GuitarBizarre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 07:17 Sryinex wrote:
I sincerely hope the summer championship will have the big names that this arena doesn't.

Alicia, SaSe, Stephano, Leenock, Oz, Alive, Ganzi, Golden, Violet, Sheth, Illusion, qxc, Nerchio (Just won Homestory Cup), Grubby, HerO, Taeja, Ryung, Losira, Top, Rain, and Dream aren't enough big names for you? Thats a stacked as hell field right there.

And honestly, while I'm not familiar with most of the other names, they beat respectable competition to get here, so show them some respect.


The only big names there are Stephano, Violet, TaeJa and Her0. Im sure he was talking about the biggest of the biggest names like DRG, MKP, MC,
#TheOneTrueDong
GraFx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States429 Posts
July 11 2012 01:23 GMT
#151
You guys gotta get past the value of some of these players' names.

It's a damn shame to see players get discredited just because they aren't MKP or DRG.
cndaks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States95 Posts
July 11 2012 02:49 GMT
#152
djWheat and Day9 with TaeJa haha awesome!
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
July 11 2012 02:55 GMT
#153
Sigh. This summer arena will be weaker than usual but i can understand since MKP,DRG,MC,etc all have tight schedules(OSL,GSL,GSTL).

Stephano,Violet,Taeja,Nerchio are the big names to look out for.
Play your best
Prolix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States30 Posts
July 11 2012 03:38 GMT
#154
Was the price announced yet in this thread? According to http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/products#hd, an HD pass for the SC2 arena will be $9.99, FYI.
"Be careful. You're a man who makes people afraid, and that's dangerous."
"Well, it's what people know about themselves inside that makes them afraid."
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
July 11 2012 03:40 GMT
#155
Gonna be cool. Viewer numbers will undoubtedly spike now that it's freemium.
Faent
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada94 Posts
July 11 2012 04:45 GMT
#156
Sad to see no DRG Oh well, he's gotta let other people win SOMETIMES.
ReboundEU
Profile Joined September 2010
508 Posts
July 11 2012 06:53 GMT
#157
Can't wait to see it! It will be awesome like any MLG event
U MAD BRO?
dde
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada796 Posts
July 11 2012 06:58 GMT
#158
On July 11 2012 08:31 Wroshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2012 07:17 dde wrote:
On July 11 2012 04:09 Wroshe wrote:
On July 11 2012 03:32 Xeris wrote:
I think it sucks that NA has the highest number of participants but received the fewest number of spots. There were about 55 people vying for just 6 spots , while EU had 17 people playing for 9. I think theres something inherrently wrong with that.

MLGs reason is that NA players perform worse, but Violet won last Arena and he came from NA. I think it sucks for NA players who did well and cant get a chance to play here.

blehhh!

Highly disagree with you on NA needing more spots. The only NA player who has performed good in MLG the last few seasons is Violet, and as HotBid said you can really argue whether you should count him as indicative of the NA Scene.

If you for example look at the Spring Arena 2 you had 8 people qualify through the NA Qualifiers: IdrA, Sleep, Mook, SeleCT, HuK, Rain, Killer and Violet. With the exception of Violet all of them placed in the bottom 16.

Take a look at the Winter Arena: NA had Ddoro, SaSe, Axslav, Minigun, Drewbie, DeMuslim, DDe and Sheth qualify. With the exception of DeMuslim every single one of those placed in the bottom 16.

Another example: TSL4 Qualifiers. In the first eight qualifiers you had one win from a North American: Beastyqt. He however falls under the exact same category as Violet; in fact I feel you shouldn't count him as a North American even more then Violet. On points you get another two players (SeleCT and Sheth) but that only gives you 3 out of 16 spots to be divided between Europe and North America.

The big reason that there are so many people vying for NA spots in the invite only qualifier against compared to EU is that a lot more NA people qualify for those due to finishing top 80 in a championship event. Those events are a lot easier for NA players to attend and when they perform decently they get an invite to the arena qualifiers. EU players that don't have the ability to get sent to a MLG Championship event have to fight it out in the brutal open qualifier to hope to earn one of the 8 spots to qualify for the next set of qualifiers.

Just to recap.
Winter Arena: 8 qualifiers from NA, 7 in the bottom 16.
Spring Arena 2: 8 qualifiers from NA, 7 in the bottom 16; only exception is doubtfully a real NA player.
TSL4 Qualifers (as of Qualifier 8): 3 out of 16 spots; all others go to Europe.



there were many forfeits gotta keep that in consideration. I was one of them too.

According to Liquipedia you lost that series in the lower bracket 1-2 to Sheth. Is that incorrect?


nvm i thought he was talking about summer arena qualification
yes
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 07:23:41
July 11 2012 07:19 GMT
#159
Here are the times in each respective time zone.
Why does no organization posting on tl ever use this handy feature?

On July 11 2012 02:07 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
Broadcast Schedule

1st day: 22:00 GMT (+00:00)-04:00 GMT (+00:00)
2nd day: 17:00 GMT (+00:00)-02:00 GMT (+00:00)
3rd day: 17:00 GMT (+00:00)-00:30 GMT (+00:00)



Anyways, I'll be looking forward to roof's performance in his first big offline event.
Definitely a must watch for every starcraft fan.
BumBum
Profile Joined July 2011
5 Posts
July 11 2012 08:36 GMT
#160
no idra
?
=((
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