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yoshi_yoshi
United States440 Posts
8/24-8/26: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Battle.net_North_American_Championship 8/24-8/26 (MLG pro circuit summer championship): http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/MLG Unlikely that they can change any dates now, but definitely they should focus on making the 2 events coincide more smoothly. | ||
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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
what the hell is wrong with articulating issues for better of players and casters and viewers? | ||
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shucklesors
Singapore1176 Posts
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Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
There will still be some overlap, but the amount of games you're playing over a 3 day period is now a 4 day period, it should take a lot of the marathon nature out of it. Unfortunately this probably won't change, I don't have much faith in Blizzard, although MLG does listen to the community, it would be nice to see if we can get through to them. | ||
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BraneSC2
United States123 Posts
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On June 13 2012 14:32 TommyP wrote: The thing is, no North American players will finsih in the money at MLG raleigh anyway, so why waste time and money when they can bring it for a tourney they can win (although there is always an outside shot for HuK) true, unless you are showing previous results that you can compete at MLG level then there is no point in entering when you could play in an NA tourney | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
If you play 2 tournaments at the same time... You're gonna have a big problem or something along those lines. | ||
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
On June 13 2012 14:30 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote: Most of the problems he's complaining about wouldnt have happened if he didn't participate in two tournaments. He knew beforehand that playing in two tournaments was going to be hard and yet he still played both and decided to complain about it. Just seems dumb to me. The cup of coffee says "beware hot". I know that the cup of coffee is hot and yet I still drink the coffee before letting it cool down and I burn my tongue. Would it make sense to complain to the manager of the coffee shop because I burnt my tongue? Don't think so. Most of the problems would have never occurred if these tournaments were not held at the same weekend. When you are admitting it's a problem, then you can't possibly put the responsibility in the players' hands. Greg is not arguing that he made a bad choice. He does not demand to go back in time and give him a second chance on the games. Greg is arguing that players should have not been forced into such a decision, and that a future change should avoid this situation. If you are disagreeing with him, means players should be constantly put into such a situation. But you already stated it's a bad thing, no? When all of us, you, Greg, me and virtually everybody else agree that it's a bad thing and should be changed- I really don't see anything to argue about. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
It's no different than if he had to choose to play DreamHack or MLG. You're diminishing competition and the chance of success for a player. To have him play both or choose one or the other is just silly. | ||
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sharky246
1197 Posts
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Ancient-Hunter
Korea (South)142 Posts
its just getting so big now that these problems are bound to continue if something isnt done. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On June 13 2012 22:34 sharky246 wrote: you guys complaining about the venue clash, do know that blizzard or mlg (or both) are doing it to cut expenses right? Of course. | ||
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Pinski
United States126 Posts
On June 13 2012 12:38 JazzJackrabbit wrote: Next up, NASL finals and WCS Canada finals in the same weekend/venue! Good thing NASL isn't open to everyone. Not to mention, there are only 16 people who make it to the NASL Finals, so at most only 3 people will have to deal with this, not to mention there aren't that many NASL games that are played for each player either. So it should work out a lot better than a MLG + WCS. The real problem will be WCS NA, which is being held at MLG Raleigh. Yeah, that's going to be just as bad as this one. | ||
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huStl.e
United Kingdom104 Posts
On June 13 2012 11:56 fortheGG wrote: I don't really see how it wasn't obvious that it would be hard to play both, especially when people like Nony skipped MLG to concentrate on the Blizzard tourney. Also we have players like Sase that had to play an enormous amount of games, so I can't say I feel sorry for them. I dont think its unreasonable for players to be pissed that both they're tournament chances suffered. They have to make money often based on appearing at these events. To be honest if i was a pro player i would have felt i had to take both tournaments because both are of equal importance and given that they were in the same literally the same place you'd think and company that runs the biggest MMO in history and a company that basically runs the foreigner GSL would be smart enough to make sure both tournaments didn't overlap. | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
iNcontroL heard his next MLG match being announced as he was playing the game that knocked him out of WCS. oh wow T_T | ||
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Resonance
Canada113 Posts
On June 13 2012 12:03 Sub40APM wrote: Seems like a fair criticism. But on the state of the game right before this tournament Idra was excited about the qualifiers because he thought the quality of opponents was crap while the reward for winning the tournament was quite rich. Seems like he either severely underestimated how tired he would be or simply chose to try to win as much money as possible in the same weekend and ended up under performing in the easiest tournament while more or less performing as expected as the MLG. Th criticism is more than fair and probably well deserved. IdrA went in feeling that the brackets would be easy given the people attending, but he didn't consider that the administration would have no clue what is going on. He mentions in the post that he could not get the appropriate rest he needed because he was constantly in wait to find out who his next opponent would be. Maybe if the planning had gone a little smoother, then many problems would be eliminated, but even that is uncertain. I'm hoping that Blizzard opts to move their NA event at a different time, so we can see higher quality matches. | ||
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Al Bundy
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